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New York Times: law degrees no job guarantee

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/opinion/a-law-degree-is...
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/03/15
To the Editor: Steven J. Harper unfairly assesses the num...
crystalline abnormal church indirect expression
  09/03/15
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Violent heaven partner
  09/03/15
ha right
crystalline abnormal church indirect expression
  09/03/15
(Low iq retard)
charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad
  09/03/15
?
crystalline abnormal church indirect expression
  09/03/15
Lmfao
charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad
  09/03/15
lol
mustard hairraiser point
  09/03/15
FUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK MYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
fighting abode
  09/03/15
there's almost certainly a tuition number where this is true...
sticky generalized bond
  09/03/15
^This this this
Startling Pit
  09/04/15
"Steven J. Harper unfairly assesses the number of Ameri...
Electric flushed school cafeteria people who are hurt
  09/03/15
NEW YORK TIMES LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
Razzle Tanning Salon
  09/04/15
...
charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad
  09/05/15
here's a solution: make the bar exam the only requirement fo...
Thriller hairless new version
  09/03/15
but then you would never learn to "think like a lawyer&...
Exciting Confused Resort
  09/03/15
But what about the scholarship!
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/03/15
guy who doesn't get the profession
Electric flushed school cafeteria people who are hurt
  09/03/15
LOL "profession"
Startling Pit
  09/04/15
The current cohort of people trying to become lawyers is too...
Histrionic Pearly Senate
  09/04/15
LOL
territorial slippery kitty
  09/03/15
OMFG
Startling Pit
  09/04/15
...
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/04/15
Really hope he seppukus.
submissive onyx fat ankles rigpig
  09/04/15
lol LITERALLY three months ago they posted a "JD guaran...
Contagious Yarmulke
  09/03/15
Link?
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/03/15
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/17/business/dealbook/welcome-...
Costumed Haunting Faggot Firefighter
  09/03/15
RAN HERE. I REMEMBER THAT! lol
rough-skinned demanding jap twinkling uncleanness
  09/03/15
the NY Times has become a major joke.
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  09/04/15
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Fluffy alpha theatre
  09/04/15
...
charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad
  09/05/15
:-O
infuriating giraffe
  09/03/15
If this board had 1/100 the gumption of /b/, this dude would...
Vibrant Learning Disabled Principal's Office
  09/03/15
SOMEONE EMAIL THAT FUCKER
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/03/15
...
charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad
  09/05/15
*Coffee cup drops in slow motion shattering into a million p...
Racy Very Tactful Black Woman
  09/03/15
Does not shatter, because you can only afford a paper cup.
Startling Pit
  09/04/15
Have you ever actually spoken to a TTT grad? They are functi...
Histrionic Pearly Senate
  09/04/15
180cr post
navy lascivious location
  09/04/15
Tell me more, please
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/04/15
I've hung out with TTT grads who were horrible and I wouldn'...
submissive onyx fat ankles rigpig
  09/04/15
Explain. People from my school seem competent to do normal l...
Razzle Tanning Salon
  09/04/15
But Fordham is a T30 school!
Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary
  09/04/15
We hired a "diversity hire" from an unranked Law s...
federal primrose jewess
  09/04/15
Skadden?
Aquamarine beta step-uncle's house
  09/04/15
Put her somewhere safe like M&A on comma checking duty.
navy lascivious location
  09/04/15
Yeah. And she's cool with that.
federal primrose jewess
  09/04/15
this is sorta shit cause its well known that the worst BIGLA...
Disgusting Geriatric Set
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:09 AM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/opinion/a-law-degree-is-no-job-guarantee.html?referrer=

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680492)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:12 AM
Author: crystalline abnormal church indirect expression

To the Editor:

Steven J. Harper unfairly assesses the number of American law students based on employment statistics rather than on the more salient fact that so many Americans cannot afford legal services. No one would say we had an oversupply of medical students if millions of Americans resorted to self-medication and treatment because they could not pay for a doctor. More of our citizens are representing themselves in court on important matters, like divorce, than at any time in recent memory.

Law schools throughout the country are responding with incubator programs aimed at helping law graduates open small law practices to serve clients of modest means. And studies show that a law degree remains a sound investment even if graduates take more time to find a first job or if that first job does not require passing the bar.

Perhaps instead of painting with a broad accusatory brush, Mr. Harper should offer his own solutions for expanding legal services to all. That’s the valuable mission of the many law schools he castigates so cavalierly.

JEREMY PAUL

Boston

The writer is dean and a professor at Northeastern University School of Law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680512)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:14 AM
Author: Violent heaven partner

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680529)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:15 AM
Author: crystalline abnormal church indirect expression

ha right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680534)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:23 AM
Author: charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad

(Low iq retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680587)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:25 AM
Author: crystalline abnormal church indirect expression

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680593)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:23 AM
Author: charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad

Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680585)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:26 AM
Author: mustard hairraiser point

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680596)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:38 AM
Author: fighting abode

FUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK MYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680662)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:39 AM
Author: sticky generalized bond

there's almost certainly a tuition number where this is true

$46,400 isn't it though

http://www.northeastern.edu/financialaid/tuitionandfees/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680666)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: Startling Pit

^This this this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691001)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:15 PM
Author: Electric flushed school cafeteria people who are hurt

"Steven J. Harper unfairly assesses the number of American law students based on employment statistics rather than on the more salient fact that so many Americans cannot afford legal services."

under any meaningful definition, assessing the situation on employment statistics is not being unfair.

"No one would say we had an oversupply of medical students if millions of Americans resorted to self-medication and treatment because they could not pay for a doctor."

uh, i would

"Law schools throughout the country are responding with incubator programs aimed at helping law graduates open small law practices to serve clients of modest means."

and lowering their tuitions so that new graduates can go this route and remain above water. yeah, no

"And studies show that a law degree remains a sound investment even if graduates take more time to find a first job or if that first job does not require passing the bar."

studies can show anything. any fucking thing. if you want to rely on 'studies' to support a position, you need to elaborate, elaborate, and elaborate some more about why the conclusion you support from the studies is legit

"Perhaps instead of painting with a broad accusatory brush, Mr. Harper should offer his own solutions for expanding legal services to all."

i didn't read the article. why do we need a solution for expanding legal services to all? let the free market work. not everyone needs nor deserves legal services. potential law students, however, need and deserve accurate information from the entities that are supported by them. they don't get it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680885)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:00 PM
Author: Razzle Tanning Salon

NEW YORK TIMES LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691615)



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Date: September 5th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692587)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:34 PM
Author: Thriller hairless new version

here's a solution: make the bar exam the only requirement for practising law. law schools then become commoditized training centres that actually compete on value and quality of training

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681026)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:44 PM
Author: Exciting Confused Resort

but then you would never learn to "think like a lawyer"!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681076)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:50 PM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary

But what about the scholarship!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681115)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:52 PM
Author: Electric flushed school cafeteria people who are hurt

guy who doesn't get the profession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681123)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 8:22 PM
Author: Startling Pit

LOL "profession"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28690977)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 8:29 PM
Author: Histrionic Pearly Senate

The current cohort of people trying to become lawyers is too dumb for the bar anyway. Pass rates are at near historic lows. Opening up the whole thing to more idiots wont produce more lawyers so whatever lets do exactly that. The truff is the VAST majority of people are too dumb even to argue a parking ticket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691023)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 1:37 PM
Author: territorial slippery kitty

LOL



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681453)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 8:24 PM
Author: Startling Pit

OMFG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28690991)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 9:56 PM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691590)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:03 PM
Author: submissive onyx fat ankles rigpig

Really hope he seppukus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691656)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: Contagious Yarmulke

lol LITERALLY three months ago they posted a "JD guarantee of 160K/yr" article that xo linked to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680542)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:20 AM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680566)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:21 AM
Author: Costumed Haunting Faggot Firefighter

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/17/business/dealbook/welcome-to-your-first-year-as-a-lawyer-your-salary-is-160000-a-year.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680569)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:57 PM
Author: rough-skinned demanding jap twinkling uncleanness

RAN HERE. I REMEMBER THAT! lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681163)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 8:27 PM
Author: Flesh motley masturbator base

the NY Times has become a major joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691007)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:02 PM
Author: Fluffy alpha theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691640)



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Date: September 5th, 2015 12:19 AM
Author: charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692589)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:19 PM
Author: infuriating giraffe

:-O

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28680922)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: Vibrant Learning Disabled Principal's Office

If this board had 1/100 the gumption of /b/, this dude would be made to answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681066)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:50 PM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary

SOMEONE EMAIL THAT FUCKER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681111)



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Date: September 5th, 2015 12:19 AM
Author: charismatic bright meetinghouse police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692595)



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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:49 PM
Author: Racy Very Tactful Black Woman

*Coffee cup drops in slow motion shattering into a million pieces*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28681108)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 8:23 PM
Author: Startling Pit

Does not shatter, because you can only afford a paper cup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28690983)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 9:59 PM
Author: Histrionic Pearly Senate

Have you ever actually spoken to a TTT grad? They are functionally retarded. Why would you hire them for anything more complicated than flipping burgers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691609)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:01 PM
Author: navy lascivious location

180cr post



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691626)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:02 PM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary

Tell me more, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691641)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:05 PM
Author: submissive onyx fat ankles rigpig

I've hung out with TTT grads who were horrible and I wouldn't hire them for traffic court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691672)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:05 PM
Author: Razzle Tanning Salon

Explain. People from my school seem competent to do normal legal tasks. I know I am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691673)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:06 PM
Author: Ruddy Razzmatazz Sanctuary

But Fordham is a T30 school!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28691683)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 10:43 PM
Author: federal primrose jewess

We hired a "diversity hire" from an unranked Law school. I think she was a family friend of one of the bosses. It was rough. She knew she was dumb, though, so she was cool with just doing dumb mindless assignments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692000)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 11:06 PM
Author: Aquamarine beta step-uncle's house

Skadden?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692162)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 11:07 PM
Author: navy lascivious location

Put her somewhere safe like M&A on comma checking duty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692170)



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Date: September 4th, 2015 11:20 PM
Author: federal primrose jewess

Yeah. And she's cool with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692247)



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Date: September 5th, 2015 12:25 AM
Author: Disgusting Geriatric Set

this is sorta shit cause its well known that the worst BIGLAW associates typically are from YHS actually, they are entitled and dont want to grind like you need to in LS

honestly shittier law school grads are OVERREP in BIGLAW once u factor in much fewer get offers at OCI.... ppl from t14 esp t5 wash out of BIGLAW cause they dont want to deal with it

i think anyone who can pass the bar cause fucking figure out most biglaw shit save some stupid crap like supreme court appellate law or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979923&forum_id=2#28692616)