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Date: September 3rd, 2015 11:58 AM Author: poppy associate wagecucks http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sat-scores-at-lowest-level-in-10-years-fueling-worries-about-high-schools/2015/09/02/6b73ec66-5190-11e5-9812-92d5948a40f8_story.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680784) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:33 PM Author: coral step-uncle's house ceo Guess race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684084) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 9:59 PM Author: floppy university It's almost like our country is filled to the brim with low iq mestizos now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684684) |
Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:02 PM Author: Irradiated Talking Philosopher-king How do IQs keep rising and SATs keep dropping? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680799) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:02 PM Author: poppy associate wagecucks IQs have not been rising (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680804) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:09 PM Author: Fluffy rose depressive pervert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
is there a specific critique that gives you reason to think that's bullshit? |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:32 PM Author: hyperventilating talented hominid This hit its peak several years ago, and IQ merely measures g, IQ gains do not necessarily reflect actual gains in cognitive abilities. Flynn himself said that a lot of these gains came from factors unrelated to g, and most experts agree with him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681014) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:45 PM Author: Soggy stage rigpig Correct. Peaked and is now in decline with the change ihn demographic away from white. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681086) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 1:20 PM Author: Fluffy rose depressive pervert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Generally_more_stimulating_environment
do people not buy that explanation these days? |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:35 PM Author: curious maniacal dilemma electric furnace Flynn effect is over in many places, and it's been measured by looking at the scores of a population over time. It's not at all applicable if you replace white Americans with Mexicans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681030) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:11 PM Author: Snowy marvelous school More retards being encouraged to go to college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680854) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:33 PM Author: coral step-uncle's house ceo Guess race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684081) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:03 PM Author: stirring crystalline casino Were fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680810) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:03 PM Author: Beta vigorous personal credit line site I actually wonder if this change is solely due to demographics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680812) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:10 PM Author: buck-toothed puce senate messiness Or more dumbs going to college since everyone "has to" go now. The sample is self-selected so hard to make inferences from it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680846) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:10 PM Author: Beta vigorous personal credit line site I agree with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680852) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:34 PM Author: coral step-uncle's house ceo Guess race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684089) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 9:59 PM Author: floppy university Of course it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684688) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:04 PM Author: Jet-lagged fragrant dysfunction SAT is a stupid test. At some point they need to think of something else. The AZNBROS will be pissed but we don't let them into schools anyway with the test scores, so not sure what the point is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680814) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:06 PM Author: Fluffy rose depressive pervert didn't they change how G loaded or something it was a year or so ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680826) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:07 PM Author: federal scourge upon the earth How is this possible given the scourge of test prep among high school student these days
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:07 PM Author: poppy associate wagecucks The ultra wealthy pool you associate with doesn't represent America? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680831) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:24 PM Author: flatulent mint base voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680955) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:39 PM Author: Stimulating property Test prep doesn't really increase scores that much. Case in point: Black SAT test-takers are more likely to do test prep than whites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681051) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:08 PM Author: Swollen gaming laptop theater And this is after re-centering already because of retarded fucking millenials. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680836) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:11 PM Author: Hilarious Galvanic Nibblets Pit ljl if you seriously took the SAT before 1994. forget how old XO has gotten these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680858) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:08 PM Author: Adventurous violent space A larger % of kids are now taking the test, meaning a greater % of dumbs = lower average scores? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680838) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:09 PM Author: Swollen gaming laptop theater No, we have more mud people that score low on these tests taking them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680844) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:10 PM Author: buck-toothed puce senate messiness (False dichotomy masterman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680851) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:11 PM Author: Swollen gaming laptop theater I will wait for your more reasoned reply (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680857) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:14 PM Author: buck-toothed puce senate messiness The overall intelligence distribution of who takes the SAT can shift without a demographic shift. Demographics may be a factor, but there could be others. More poors and dumbs of all races are encouraged to attend college who never took the test before.
Changing education standards could play a part as well if students aren't learning material that's likely to be on the test, but it's pretty much basic math and vocab so I hope kids are learning that. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:19 PM Author: Swollen gaming laptop theater I was going after the most likely. I didn't say it was the only reason.
More low achievers taking test of all ethnic backgrounds, but you get the double effect when you encourage lowest scoring to go to college and take these tests who just happen to be minorities.
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:23 PM Author: buck-toothed puce senate messiness Do they publish aggregate scores by race? It's really hard to make any claims about a self-selected aggregate sample. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680949) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:38 PM Author: Stimulating property Yes. The SAT is actually pretty good about breaking down all its data in demographic terms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681048) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 5:10 PM Author: sooty temple ape I don't think they still publish scores broken down by race AND income level though a la this data from 1995:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V4SWkRXKTnw/TsZ1Sg1dBEI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/BD0cu6LYXrA/s400/satracialgapfigure.gif |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:29 PM Author: Adventurous violent space You're accepting that I was correct, then, when I said the issue was that more people are taking the test, period,which results in more low scorers taking the test and reducing the national average?
The average would be declining even if this country were 100% white - this is simply because more people are taking the test. That you're concerned about "muds" obfuscates the broader issue in favor of your racism. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:32 PM Author: Swollen gaming laptop theater Yeah, I agree with that.
I don't know how my statement is racist. You can easily look up SAT scores by ethnicity and race. I'm not manipulating freely available data to make a point.
I shouldn't have said mud people, you're right. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:35 PM Author: slimy cerise digit ratio it doesn't necessarily follow, but it seems that it likely would. Just depends on how the white distribution used to be compared to how it is now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681029) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:36 PM Author: Hilarious Galvanic Nibblets Pit link? the avg score for whites has barely moved. i think it's something like -5 over the past 10 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681032) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 4:39 PM Author: smoky know-it-all alpha forum tldr but kill yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28682545) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:36 PM Author: Sticky Queen Of The Night "A larger % of kids are now taking the test"
I don't know about that. I started looking, but I got bored and gave up.
But I did find a couple notable things.
The ACT has gained market share: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/sat-usage-declined-in-29-states-over-7-years/2014/03/15/f4504cfc-a5ff-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html
Between 2009 and 2013, the portion of minority test takers has increased from 40% to 46%: http://media.collegeboard.com/homeOrg/content/pdf/sat-report-college-career-readiness-2013.pdf |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:09 PM Author: federal scourge upon the earth still not as low as when boomers were getting into top tier schools with middling standardized test scores (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680845) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:12 PM Author: buck-toothed puce senate messiness Middling = 1400? Anyone who scores that can score 100 points higher with SUPERSTUDY prepping, which all UMC + AZN students targeting Ivys do these days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680864) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:14 PM Author: concupiscible fortuitous meteor locus I got a 1490 when I took the SAT in 1997. It was good enough for a SUNY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680882) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:18 PM Author: buck-toothed puce senate messiness ??? You could've went somewhere legit with that in 1997. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680907) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:21 PM Author: concupiscible fortuitous meteor locus I was just happy to go to college. I later went to HLS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680935) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:25 PM Author: gold ticket booth rigor you could have gone to an ivy with 1490 under the old standard breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680963) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:29 PM Author: concupiscible fortuitous meteor locus I couldn't afford to go to an Ivy. Didn't feel like I would fit in at one anyway. Assumed those schools were for elites. I grew up in Ronkonkama. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680991) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:36 PM Author: coral step-uncle's house ceo HA! Exactly why I went to Big State U after applying only to Big State U.
Sold myself short. And now my life SUCKS.
Seriously, I wish I were dead. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:27 PM Author: Soggy stage rigpig Higher proportion of Mexicans taking the test. Duh. 18 year old kids in this country are now adays like 1/3rd Mexican and not American. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28680983) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:36 PM Author: coral step-uncle's house ceo Guess race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684105) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:31 PM Author: pea-brained bawdyhouse really tough guy No one thinks Common Core might be an issue? How many years has that been in place now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681002) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:35 PM Author: pea-brained bawdyhouse really tough guy If you click on the state-by-state results and sort by score, looks like a lot of states only test a few (with higher scores) whereas some states test the vast majority of kids (lower scores. Maybe states used to skew more toward the former but now more kids are being encouraged to test who wouldn't have previously.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/local/sat-scores-2015/1812/ |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:43 PM Author: Soggy stage rigpig FYI -- in many states most everyone who is going to colleges takes JUST the ACT and not the SAT. And, yes, in those states, its the smarter kids who take the SAT as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681074) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:41 PM Author: Stimulating property Common Core has only been around about 3 years and its most substantial changes are in elementary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681059) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 1:06 PM Author: pea-brained bawdyhouse really tough guy ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681230) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:37 PM Author: orange mediation act has been gaining ground rapidly on the sat, I think it may be more popular nationally now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681039) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:49 PM Author: Godawful Hot Piazza Toilet Seat its bc. of smartphones. our attention spans are FUCKED. was at CLE yesterday, everyone was checking their phones every 30 seconds (not for work, saw a guy reading webcomics next to me). there was a pregnant chick who was texting, reading a book about going into labor, browsing the web, etc., compusively, like 10 secs. on each thing. not conducive to being smart. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681106) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:55 PM Author: slimy cerise digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681141) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 1:22 PM Author: transparent dragon tbf, it was a CLE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681351) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 12:56 PM Author: charismatic tan fat ankles public bath I scored almost 900 points higher than the average SAT scorer and I am still on welfare & underemployed. lol @ Obama's America. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681147) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 1:07 PM Author: orange mediation *hits you over the head with a frying pan* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28681241) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 4:38 PM Author: aphrodisiac new version rehab Control for race. This is a mix issue
Each race scores higher than before, there's just more blacks and hispanics in the country |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 10:00 PM Author: floppy university Stop it with ur rathithm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684691) |
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Date: September 5th, 2015 7:58 PM Author: Sticky Queen Of The Night "Each race scores higher than before"
Link? |
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Date: September 5th, 2015 9:49 PM Author: Stimulating property I don't know about since last year, but since 2005 scores have dropped for all races except Azns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28697360) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 4:39 PM Author: ultramarine up-to-no-good tattoo smartphones + social media = tard nation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28682547) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:37 PM Author: coral step-uncle's house ceo Guess race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28684108) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2015 8:28 PM Author: Sticky Queen Of The Night That's like a 990 on the 1600 scale.
What a bunch of fucking idiots. |
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Date: September 5th, 2015 9:26 PM Author: ruddy macaca no surprise here
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Date: September 5th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: ruddy macaca college is literally a HS degree now, thanks to libs 'everyone go to college' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2979968&forum_id=2#28697365) |