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EXTREMELY INTERESTING GRAMMATICAL MISTAKE IN THE CONSTITUTION
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Date: November 12th, 2015 12:08 PM Author: beta forum Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 provides that “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President . . . .” U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1, cl. 5. The comma after “States” seems to turn “or a citizen of the United States” into a parenthetical phrase, which would apparently make every President since Zachary Taylor illegitimate.
See Jordan Steiker, Sanford Levinson & J.M. Balkin, Taking Text and Structure Really Seriously: Constitutional Interpretation and the Crisis of Presidential Eligibility, 74 TEX. L. REV. 237 (1995 |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 12:10 PM Author: Irradiated irate kitchen philosopher-king Elaborate, shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29166790) |
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Date: January 5th, 2016 8:40 PM Author: Misanthropic Base Depressive Very excites.
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I. Must. MASTURBATE!! |
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Date: December 13th, 2016 10:05 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#32134029) |
Date: November 12th, 2015 12:09 PM Author: Drunken copper pocket flask Oh wow that is simply fascinating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29166786) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 12:12 PM Author: beta forum Why hasn't this argument been raised by those sovereign nutcases in court? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29166799) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 3:38 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29167965) |
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Date: January 6th, 2016 12:18 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29534330) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 8:31 PM Author: Buck-toothed talking roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#31726569) |
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Date: November 16th, 2015 5:27 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29195866) |
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Date: January 5th, 2016 5:03 PM Author: Marvelous hospital french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29527617) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 3:48 PM Author: fragrant dead stock car rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168005) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 3:48 PM Author: beta forum Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 provides that “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President . . . .” U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1, cl. 5. The comma after “States” seems to turn “or a citizen of the United States” into a parenthetical phrase, which would apparently make every President since Zachary Taylor illegitimate.
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Date: November 12th, 2015 3:51 PM Author: fragrant dead stock car rehab Odd case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168024) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 3:51 PM Author: wonderful sickened site black woman something is seriously wrong with this guy but what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168022) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 3:52 PM Author: beta forum what's your problem man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168028) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:55 PM Author: wonderful sickened site black woman have you been diagnosed by a professional? you seem like an unusual case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168390) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:00 PM Author: Vibrant Vengeful State they werent as fixated on commas and their function in those days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168059) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:00 PM Author: beta forum then why use commas, shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168062) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:02 PM Author: Vibrant Vengeful State they were retards man. they thought & wrote at a 2nd grade level (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168071) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:03 PM Author: coiffed shimmering library the rules weren't very fixed yet if you want more understanding, look at Japanese, whose comma usage is fucked up and there are no real rules about their usage. Sometimes they'll use them to represent pauses; other times they'll insert them after a topic marker; other times they won't. This despite being an advanced economy and first-world nation. There's no dominant style guide that dictates their use, and orthography isn't focused on in school, either. Even highly educated people couldn't explain comma usage. |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:03 PM Author: beta forum interesting thanks for the note. What's the origin of the English punctuation system? It seems pretty intuitive but perhaps that is a function of our educational pedigree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168081) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:22 PM Author: coiffed shimmering library when you consider that all written language is not language but just some SPS attempt to fix language on paper (like a symbolic representation of langauge rather than language itself), you realize that there's no reason writing is necessarily accurate (consider ASL, which has no formalized writing system AFAIK yet ASL is a language for sure) i don't know the full history other than that it's totally shit and ad hoc and a relatively modern invention its main utility is that in spoken language if i say something unclear, you can ask me for clarification, bu tin writing it has to be understandable since you can't ask a writer for clarification i can't opine on the origins, but i assume (likely correctly) that it's this multi-thousand year struggle to figure out how to we make things clear, which includes aesthetic concerns because unaesthetic punctuation hinders the speed of reading |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:37 PM Author: beta forum makes sense, very interesting. What do you think of interpretation/hermenutical ? Do you think there is no established meaning of a text? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168255) |
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Date: January 5th, 2016 5:02 PM Author: brindle indecent locale sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29527609) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:43 PM Author: Bronze glittery dingle berry public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168287) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:01 PM Author: coiffed shimmering library see eg second amendment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168066) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:01 PM Author: Vibrant Vengeful State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168067) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:03 PM Author: beta forum what about the prefatory clause in the 2nd amendment? Do you realize how it operates with the operative clause? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168076) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:05 PM Author: Onyx Property Scalia already laid this out for you, shitlib. I'm not going to waste my time doing it again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168089) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:09 PM Author: beta forum What about the majority opinion? What is the fatal flaw in your opinion, shitcon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168118) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:29 PM Author: Onyx Property Scalia was the majority right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168215) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:36 PM Author: beta forum well breyer's dissent i mean, smartass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168250) |
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Date: November 21st, 2015 2:50 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29225717) |
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Date: January 5th, 2016 5:10 PM Author: Cowardly trip giraffe Ouch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29527670) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 6:36 PM Author: silver gay wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#31725823) |
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Date: November 12th, 2015 4:24 PM Author: coiffed shimmering library thanks for proving my point, which was that DUMBASS 2nd grade barely literate founding fathers created, with the intent for it to last thousands of years and be totally clear in its intent, a document whose comma usage is so atrocious that educated people today still debate what the fuck it means (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29168186) |
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Date: December 13th, 2016 10:14 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#32134112) |
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Date: January 5th, 2016 5:12 PM Author: bearded indigo area lol at you americans trying to spell let alone draft a constitution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29527681) |
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Date: January 5th, 2016 8:42 PM Author: translucent hot lettuce school Remember that college kid who noticed that one of the amendments hadn't been properly ratified? Ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#29529869) |
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Date: December 13th, 2016 10:25 PM Author: Saffron Zippy Office Should have gone new thread with this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#32134216) |
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Date: April 7th, 2016 9:26 PM Author: nubile snowy friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#30224733) |
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Date: April 8th, 2016 7:12 PM Author: beta forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#30231470) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 4:27 PM Author: fragrant dead stock car rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#31724935) |
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Date: December 13th, 2016 10:17 PM Author: Amethyst well-lubricated filthpig brunch OP you are WRONG. Commas were not used in the same way in 1776 that they are used today. They were used much more frequently in sentences. It was, common, very common to use lots of commas, frequently. Didn't you learn this in elementary school history class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#32134142) |
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Date: December 13th, 2016 10:28 PM Author: Beady-eyed voyeur I still cannot follow what the fuck point OP is trying to make. Please explain it more slowly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3042850&forum_id=2#32134245) |