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IF YOU BILL 2400 HOURS A YEAR, HOW DOES ONE MANAGE TO MAINTAIN THEIR FAMILY BOND

just seems like work is always on your mind with that sort o...
cyan sandwich set
  11/23/15
2100 takes a toll on your home life. billed 2200 one year. c...
Chestnut nowag
  11/23/15
damn can you describe how your average day was like when u b...
cyan sandwich set
  11/23/15
had a trial which meant a 280 hour month. that makes it a lo...
Chestnut nowag
  11/23/15
This has been the only way I have ethically exceeded 2,000 h...
mind-boggling milk
  11/23/15
cr. the key is not being in a feast or famine practice area....
Chestnut nowag
  11/23/15
that's why so many partners are divorced from their first wi...
burgundy stimulating casino mad-dog skullcap
  11/23/15
damn. that's fucked up. In their spare time when not working...
cyan sandwich set
  11/23/15
MOAR Law stuff
lemon fragrant sanctuary karate
  11/23/15
damn. Partners are doing primarily what in biglaw? An averag...
cyan sandwich set
  11/23/15
You don't.
Opaque Violent Faggot Firefighter Church
  11/23/15
I honestly wouldn't want to do anything else with my time. I...
pale indirect expression
  11/23/15
elaborate what fulfillment u get out of it
cyan sandwich set
  11/23/15
you don't
pale indirect expression
  11/23/15
It's really not that bad as long as the work is consistent. ...
Vigorous sickened piazza generalized bond
  11/23/15
Your life blows
Electric rose native
  11/24/15
Nah, I work like one weekend a month most months. I have a ...
Vigorous sickened piazza generalized bond
  11/24/15
haters gonna hate.
Chestnut nowag
  11/24/15
...
cyan sandwich set
  11/25/15
, lisped the retard with crippling aspergers
Vigorous sickened piazza generalized bond
  11/25/15
You are allowed three things in big law: work, family, and o...
Tan Becky
  11/23/15
What family bonds?
Motley sapphire senate knife
  11/23/15
...
cyan sandwich set
  11/24/15
Curious how many real time work hours the 2k plus guys put i...
galvanic bat-shit-crazy juggernaut corner
  11/24/15
it varies. i am a pretty no bs guy at work. sure, i talk to ...
Chestnut nowag
  11/24/15
what are your primary duties at work? Review motions?
cyan sandwich set
  11/24/15
i write the first draft of everything on all my cases.
Chestnut nowag
  11/24/15
makes sense. How long does it take you to write a Motion for...
cyan sandwich set
  11/24/15
depends on a lot of factors - client, budget, number of issu...
Chestnut nowag
  11/24/15
not bad. What is your style when drafting/composing a substa...
cyan sandwich set
  11/24/15
again, depends on motion, but my practice area is almost all...
Chestnut nowag
  11/24/15
what are some common policy/fairness arguments u make at the...
cyan sandwich set
  11/26/15
I managed 2k last year. Was in office maybe 9ish hours a day...
Gaped salmon home psychic
  11/24/15
this is totally correct. weekends are the exception, not the...
Chestnut nowag
  11/24/15
Your wife has to be independent.
Dashing address telephone
  11/26/15


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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:15 PM
Author: cyan sandwich set

just seems like work is always on your mind with that sort of work schedule expectation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238649)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:30 PM
Author: Chestnut nowag

2100 takes a toll on your home life. billed 2200 one year. could not imagine the train wreck my marriage would become at 2400.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238756)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:31 PM
Author: cyan sandwich set

damn can you describe how your average day was like when u billed 2200...like what did u do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238769)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:41 PM
Author: Chestnut nowag

had a trial which meant a 280 hour month. that makes it a lot easier to bill that much. otherwise, i bill about 8-10 hours a day and a half day on saturday. took one full week (7 actual work days) of vacation and probably 1 random day off every 1.5 months. i think that is what gets you to 2200.

honestly, apart from the 280 hour month it was not terrible. that said, try telling my wife that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238840)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 6:35 PM
Author: mind-boggling milk

This has been the only way I have ethically exceeded 2,000 hours in a year. A few monster months because of trials or crazy MSJs, while being solidly busy the rest of the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29239184)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 9:57 PM
Author: Chestnut nowag

cr. the key is not being in a feast or famine practice area. mine is consistently busy, but i can usually count on two or three crazy months a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29240887)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:16 PM
Author: burgundy stimulating casino mad-dog skullcap

that's why so many partners are divorced from their first wives and married a second trophy wife who is there for the money and prefers that her husband is working all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238657)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:17 PM
Author: cyan sandwich set

damn. that's fucked up. In their spare time when not working, what do these partners usually do? Go out to dinner ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238667)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:20 PM
Author: lemon fragrant sanctuary karate

MOAR Law stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238692)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:22 PM
Author: cyan sandwich set

damn. Partners are doing primarily what in biglaw? An average commercial litigation partner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238698)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:34 PM
Author: Opaque Violent Faggot Firefighter Church

You don't.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238786)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 5:48 PM
Author: pale indirect expression

I honestly wouldn't want to do anything else with my time. I would just self-sabotage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29238875)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 6:03 PM
Author: cyan sandwich set

elaborate what fulfillment u get out of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29239008)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 9:59 PM
Author: pale indirect expression

you don't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29240905)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 6:08 PM
Author: Vigorous sickened piazza generalized bond

It's really not that bad as long as the work is consistent. I don't really have fire drills very often so I know which weekends are free and which won't be pretty far in advance. Doesn't hurt that the wife works too. Having a stay at home wife would not be cr unless she was long suffering or you were an intellectual so to speak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29239048)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:33 AM
Author: Electric rose native

Your life blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243173)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:37 AM
Author: Vigorous sickened piazza generalized bond

Nah, I work like one weekend a month most months. I have a great family, decent job, and we're pretty much set financially. My life is pretty stress free. I could quit tomorrow if I wanted to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243191)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:47 AM
Author: Chestnut nowag

haters gonna hate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243252)



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Date: November 25th, 2015 5:23 PM
Author: cyan sandwich set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29252568)



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Date: November 25th, 2015 5:28 PM
Author: Vigorous sickened piazza generalized bond

, lisped the retard with crippling aspergers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29252596)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 7:22 PM
Author: Tan Becky

You are allowed three things in big law: work, family, and one other thing such as a singular hobby like golf. If you spend every waking hour doing only those three things you will succeed. If you are trying to do more than that you will fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29239538)



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Date: November 23rd, 2015 11:08 PM
Author: Motley sapphire senate knife

What family bonds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29241450)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:24 AM
Author: cyan sandwich set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243123)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:42 AM
Author: galvanic bat-shit-crazy juggernaut corner

Curious how many real time work hours the 2k plus guys put in? By that I mean how long at office each day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243225)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:44 AM
Author: Chestnut nowag

it varies. i am a pretty no bs guy at work. sure, i talk to the partners i work with and my associate colleagues, but i don't take more than a half hour to eat lunch and i don't waste too much time on the net.

with all that, i get in around 7 and leave around 6. some days i get in around 8, never later though. i put some time in at home after the kids are in bed, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243237)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:53 AM
Author: cyan sandwich set

what are your primary duties at work? Review motions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243277)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:56 AM
Author: Chestnut nowag

i write the first draft of everything on all my cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243286)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 9:58 AM
Author: cyan sandwich set

makes sense. How long does it take you to write a Motion for Summary J usually, with all caselaw and research included

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243305)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 10:00 AM
Author: Chestnut nowag

depends on a lot of factors - client, budget, number of issues. putting all that aside, i typically carve out one whole week to write and MSJ. that includes outline, research, drafting, editing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243315)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 10:02 AM
Author: cyan sandwich set

not bad. What is your style when drafting/composing a substantive motion? Do you focus more on policy/fairness considerations or emphasize caselaw precedent/"clear language" of statutory provisions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243327)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 10:05 AM
Author: Chestnut nowag

again, depends on motion, but my practice area is almost all caselaw based. not a lot of statutory interpretation going on in my niche. some policy considerations, but that is mostly brought up in appellate work, which i also do a fair amount of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243360)



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Date: November 26th, 2015 10:07 AM
Author: cyan sandwich set

what are some common policy/fairness arguments u make at the appellate level?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29256030)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 10:11 AM
Author: Gaped salmon home psychic

I managed 2k last year. Was in office maybe 9ish hours a day. Some days were 9-5 others 8-6 or whatever depending on matters. Almost never weekends. Not bad, but I could never see myself getting any more than 2k in - just not worth the lost personal time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243402)



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Date: November 24th, 2015 10:15 AM
Author: Chestnut nowag

this is totally correct. weekends are the exception, not the rule if you manage your time and actually work all day. i also agree about it not being worth the loss in personal time. if you are billing 2k hours, you are a superstar at most firms. you get close to the best bonuses and the partners assume you are doing a good job because you wouldn't be getting all that work otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29243432)



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Date: November 26th, 2015 9:18 AM
Author: Dashing address telephone

Your wife has to be independent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3052302&forum_id=2#29255908)