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BELOW MEDIAN @ T14 - DROP OUT?
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:53 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig FUCK MY ASS. 2 B+'s, 1 B, 1 B-. Median is around 3.3. Not sure what went wrong - I thought I knew the materials well enough. Probably just a SHITTY law exam taker.
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Date: January 15th, 2016 11:30 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Thanx for the inputs bros. I decided to stay and see how well the next semester goes. I'm already 1/2 way there, so fuck it, might as well see how OCI rolls before dropping the FUCK out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29607650) |
Date: January 14th, 2016 9:54 PM Author: Aromatic Weed Whacker Gaping We talking GULC? Or NYU? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598868) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:55 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig UVA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598891) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:56 PM Author: boyish genital piercing you can still find something below median at UVA. debt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598895) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:57 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig I'm getting 75% in scholly $, so there's that.
I'm open to government work as well, if I can't find anything in BIGLAW. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:57 PM Author: impertinent house govt isn't hiring you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598913) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:58 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Fuck. I'm 99% certain I'll drop out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598930) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:16 PM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode Gov is grade sensitive now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599246) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:42 PM Author: nubile range top 1/3 at any decent BIGFED job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29600359) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:40 AM Author: Buck-toothed legend the bottom 2/3rds pay exactly the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601528) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:58 PM Author: boyish genital piercing do you have any useful skills at all? STEM degree? CPA? Foreign language? Anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598928) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:59 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Fuck no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598941) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:59 PM Author: boyish genital piercing Drop out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598949) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:56 PM Author: impertinent house thats pretty far below median. drop out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598900) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:58 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Fuck. I'm 99% certain I'll drop out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598926) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:54 PM Author: impertinent house are you a straight white male? height? engineering degree? work experience? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598871) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:56 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Yes, 5'10, No, Yes (although not impressive at all - just a run-of-the-mill corporate analyst gig). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598896) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:57 PM Author: impertinent house gtfo. debt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598909) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:59 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Manageable - I got 75% in scholly $$$. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598953) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:03 PM Author: impertinent house not worth it. youre about where i was a few years ago. drop out. you have to be 100% DEADSET on a legal career to justify staying in law school. or you have to be living off of your rich parents (even then they have to be really rich and its a stretch to justify) in order for it to make sense for you to stay in law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598994) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:55 PM Author: Misunderstood Charismatic Circlehead If first semester, yeah, cut your losses.
I say this as someone who nearly dropped out after first semester and regrets not having done it. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:58 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface Drop out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598925) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 9:59 PM Author: hairraiser garnet reading party generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598944) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:00 PM Author: Misunderstood Charismatic Circlehead *bursts out laughing* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598961) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:00 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig I do - it's not like I didn't put in the time. I thought I knew the materials well enough to get at least a median. I'm just probably a real SHITTY test taker. Fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598964) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:01 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface why do you want to be a lawyer? why did you give up a decent job to go to LS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598975) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:03 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig No promotion potential, not an interesting work. Believe it or not, I found course materials in LS pretty interesting. Of course, I got GAPED on those fucking exams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599001) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:04 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface OK. We're dissimilar enough that I'm not sure I can give you meaningful advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599018) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:07 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig What do you mean? I'm all ears, bro. At this point, I'll take any advice to try to salvage my fucking career. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599085) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:14 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface I thought that LS course material was the stupidest shit I've ever seen, and I had no great attraction to being a lawyer other than the fact that I heard they made good money.
If your reaction to law school course materials was "whoa this is really cool! legal work sounds fascinating!" then we are just totally different people. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:18 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Let me clarify. I'm with you - a lot of bullshit, a lot of fluff, etc. BUT, I was trying to say that it still was better than my last dead-end job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599277) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:04 PM Author: hairraiser garnet reading party generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599016) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:08 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig I'm not biglaw or nothing. I'm also open to government, JAG, midlaw - basically anything that pays a reasonable, livable salary for a single dude.
I'll evaluate my options and make a call whether to stay or go next week. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:15 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface I work for the government. We're not really hiring mediocre UVA law students right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599214) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:17 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig What department? Also, you know some of the 'less' competitive departments out there who may give below-median UVA students a shot? How about state gov?
Fuck man, I'm just grasping at whatever I can at this point to justify staying in law school. Otherwise, I'm bouncing right out the gate. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:19 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface You need to understand that hiring in general is way down in government since 2011. Budget cuts, sequestration, state and municipal debt crises, and lower tax revenues after ITE have all taken their toll. The unselective agencies have been hit hardest.
Second, any government legal position is getting a ton of applicants. We routinely get 500+ applications for legal positions.
Third, to the extent that government agencies not picky about grades and grade-related credentials are hiring, they are hiring people with a strong, demonstrated interest in what they do.
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:23 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Understood. Just to keep in the back of my mind IF I do decide to stick the shit out, what are some of the gov departments/agencies that care less about the grades?
Help a bro out, thank. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:25 PM Author: swashbuckling ratface DOJ is super-selective anything that regulates the financial industry is super-selective
other agencies don't really care about credentials, they care about your interest in what they do |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:01 PM Author: Crystalline Crackhouse More like do you REALLY want to be a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598979) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:04 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig If you mean "Am I willing to work 80 hours to make $40,000 in a local SHITLAW office," the answer is a hard no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599012) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:07 PM Author: Trip twinkling uncleanness What are you going to do if you drop out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599088) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:09 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig No idea. I may try to break into the corporate sector I was in, put in a few more years, then get an MBA if the promotion potential still isn't there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599123) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:12 PM Author: Trip twinkling uncleanness That doesn't sound like a bad plan.
To be clear though, and to counter what everyone else is telling you, BIGLAW, midlaw, JAG, government etc are still viable routes in your position. You just won't cop it via OCI. BIGLAW firms are still hiring entry level attorneys but the summer classes have gone down. You're gonna have to suck some dick to get a decent legal job but it sounds like you'd have to do the same in your previous field too. |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:48 AM Author: Know-it-all federal corner travel guidebook How about 40 hours for a couple years with a lit of chill time and then bump to 85k and then 100 a year or so after that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601541) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:01 PM Author: Seedy flesh philosopher-king I'd say stick it out for one more semester. It looks like one shit grade knocked you down. A good second semester and you're easily at median or higher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29598983) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:03 PM Author: Stimulating nighttime mexican Apply to Darden cop dat JD/MBA cruise to chill corporate gig. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599002) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:05 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig This actually crossed my mind. Isn't Darden a pretty good program, meaning it's actually hard to get into? My work experience wasn't anything 'sexy' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599038) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:06 PM Author: bull headed stirring lodge coffee pot 1800000 setup for Darden trolling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599062) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:08 PM Author: boyish genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599099) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:09 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig LOL, I wish, bro, I wish. I just heard from fellow law folks that Darden's a pretty reputable program. Never heard of it before coming here, however. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599134) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:17 PM Author: Stimulating nighttime mexican It used to be that once you were in a top LS you could automatically double up with the MBA if you wanted to. Not sure how much that's changed, but they still seem to let ppl in with no WE when they're already enrolled in the JD. Not sure if/how much below median 1st semester grades will hurt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599256) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:19 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Interesting. I have no idea how that process works now. Did you do JD/MBA? If so, was it worth it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599293) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:29 PM Author: Stimulating nighttime mexican No I didn't. Don't know if it's worth it. It's a lot of money. But it's a guaranteed six figure job and a lot more flexibility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599437) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:21 PM Author: self-absorbed white foreskin So you are paying like $12.5K per year in tuition?
Frankly, it's worth it to continue to stick it out - biglaw or no - at that price, unless you have some UG background where you can immediately transition into a high paying field. The economy is still shit for everyone, and you even with those grade you stills have a shot at a good-paying (e.g., 100K+ in secondary city) legal job at OCI, and perhaps even biglaw. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:23 PM Author: impertinent house its not worth festering away in some bs grad program though. maybe if he's having an awesome time, but he already said he's taking debt, so thats out. move to a city and get some crappy job and come out way ahead. literally anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599359) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:32 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Translucent Blood Rage Stag Film dude, being in school beats having a real job any day, wtf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599512) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:02 PM Author: impertinent house sort of. he can go back to grad school later in life if he really wants. doesn't mean its smart to hang out for two years. if law school were three semesters you might have an argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599893) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:32 PM Author: self-absorbed white foreskin Wrong. He should stick with it and get a top 10 law degree if he comes out with $60K in debt. These degrees do not "open doors" like law schools tell you but they sure as hell open more doors than some lower level corporate monkey job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599514) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:02 PM Author: impertinent house i dunno if thats right. employers like hiring employed people, not unemployed law students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599898) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:41 AM Author: Buck-toothed legend this seems right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601532) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:25 PM Author: Aromatic Weed Whacker Gaping Since you're paying so little, worth stick it out for 1 more semester to see if you can get your GPA up. Remember, it's not about learning shit and studying all semester -- it's aobut getting really good at taking law school exams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599388) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:30 PM Author: onyx cerebral theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599471) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:36 PM Author: Floppy cerise point pervert cr
ignore everything but getting ready for exams, if ur briefing or prepping for class 1) bad news, ur an retard and 2) stop it |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:47 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig So what's the best way to get ready for exams from Day 1? Start the outline? I've always been confused when people say just focus on exams.
I don't give a SHIT about cold calls or anything like that. I'm genuinely curious to see what my day-to-day tactics/strategy should be w/ my eyes on the prize. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:55 PM Author: Floppy cerise point pervert start outline, find practice tests for subject and professor, hopefully ones with model answers, do those tests. u can go subject by subject until u know enough to do an entire test. do that until ur good at exploring every angle of fact patterns and do it quickly and without thinking. don't have to do it solo, if u have a bro then get him on it too. im smart but lazy and i had a bro who wasn't quite as smart but was much more proactive to make me do this shit and keep me accountable. shooting the shit with a bro during and drinking when ur done also makes it less miserable |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:57 PM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode Outline early, look at past exams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599833) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:08 AM Author: Outnumbered talented haunted graveyard theatre I came to discover at some point during 1L summer/2L year that I had several friends who were top 10% or close to it. The vast majority had spent a lot of time going to office hours and talking with profs about exams specifically. So I think the CW to do practice exams is right, but the ideal is to find a couple with questions that cover subject matter already taught earlier in the semester and go over those with profs to get a real sense of what they want, and how they grade. You need to go into that conversation ready to test a lot of stuff, e.g. think of those extra bad, weak arguments and then specifically ask "would you give an extra point for this, or is it more likely to annoy you?"
The second thing I heard consistently was that people tried to get as many cases and holdings into the answer as possible. Analysis and conclusion sort of are what they are, but you can fuck up to some extent and still score well if your answer is already covered in little checks because you reeled off all the relevant cases and an additional sentence/clause setting out the holding, even the little shitty ones in the questions at the end of the main case in your casebook.
Third, most of them did the section heading thing where they use the section headings to a) potentially score a main point twice by getting two checks--one in the heading and one in the body, and b) to make the answer more readable and less shitty to grade as a big block of text.
Fourth, and perhaps most important, if you don't type very fast spend time asap getting your typing speed to at least 60 wpm and preferably 75+. The point isn't that you write more, but that you have more time to think and structure, e.g. go back and add in cases and section headings.
I didn't do any of this for all three years of law school because I was lazy and intoxicated for most of it. I finished median 1L year, and slightly above by end of 3L year and barely got a job from a T10 back in the pre-ITE good old days. |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:08 AM Author: Outnumbered talented haunted graveyard theatre (Rach server bill double post) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601493) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 2:00 AM Author: Fishy famous landscape painting Folks keep recommending this approach, but where the hell are you getting your practice exams? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601019) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 3:46 AM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode Professors don't post them on course homepages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601301) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:50 PM Author: Fishy famous landscape painting They do, but only two weeks before the final exam.
Alternatively, they post only one final exam and no model answer. |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 5:56 AM Author: Floppy cerise point pervert search online if you have to. ask friends at other schools. practice is practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601465) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:54 AM Author: Know-it-all federal corner travel guidebook Journals have them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601554) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:51 PM Author: Fishy famous landscape painting So I a 1L could simply walk into the flagship law review office, say "yo niggas wassup holla at yo boi gimme sumuh dat shit?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606437) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:53 PM Author: Know-it-all federal corner travel guidebook Try it.
But I was thinking about the many bulls hit journals you write onto |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:12 PM Author: Crystalline Crackhouse Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606209) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 10:53 PM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode This was, basically, me 1st semester.
I improved second semester, ended up with a market paying gig by the time it was over.
I'd give it one more semester. But if you're still barely breaking 3.0 second semester, it might be time to find something else unless you really want to do shitlaw sweatshop. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:06 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Just curious - how did you improve? Any change in test-taking and/or prep? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29599950) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:09 PM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode Well, 3 things.
1) I had previous work experience that had me very focused on providing the "best" answer on exams rather than running through the whole on the one hand, on the other hand forks. So I started doing that.
2) Started outlining earlier
3) So that I could spent week before finals looking at practice exams instead of outlining.. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:10 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Understood, Yea, I think I made the same mistake. I analyzed the 'best' issues/arguments that both sides would give, but I didn't put in the time to analyze what I thought as weaker/shitty arguments. That may have been it.
We'll see IF I stay in, and go talk to professors about the exams. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:41 PM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode Best of luck regardless of what you decide to do.
Out of curiosity, how was your LSAT? |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:41 PM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Thanks bro. 170. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29600351) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 2:21 AM Author: heady lilac national regret And u cpooed a 75% scholly? What was ur gpa? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601098) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 2:54 AM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig Close to 4.0. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601153) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 3:51 AM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode Yeah dude, you're definitely smart enough to lawyer, just gotta figure out what you weren't doing on exams the first time around and fix it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601315) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 11:40 PM Author: cheese-eating persian Try one more semester, if you're still bad, then drop out.
You aren't getting a job probably with your current grades |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 1:56 AM Author: Fishy famous landscape painting I was about to say you're all deranged faggots for suggesting that OP drop out, but then I took a peek at UVA's 509, and last year seven (7) 1Ls dropped out. I hope they were at the very bottom of their class, with no grants, because I still can't imagine someone doing this.
120,000 from UVA isn't bad at all. |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 2:55 AM Author: Umber 180 Mother Rigpig I don't know man. What good is 120,000 if I won't be able to find a decent job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601156) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 9:25 AM Author: Know-it-all federal corner travel guidebook Look here mate, I graduated in the worst possible time--think terrorist attacks--with nearly the worst possible grades, and I had student loans of about $65K, and I still copped a job that paid about half of what my biglaw classmates got, and I copped it after graduation while I was studying for the bar. It was still about $20K in salary over what I would have made in a job without the degree. You'll be fine with bottom third. Wont be clerking, wont be flying all over the country to callbacks, will hate your classmates, will feel the suck in law school, but the rational decision is still to stay in with your parameters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601831) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 2:09 AM Author: vibrant resort Join the black students association and put it on your resume to get your foot in the door (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601050) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:44 AM Author: Laughsome cowardly space I dropped out and I'm so happy I did. Dodged a bullet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601534) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 7:44 AM Author: Know-it-all federal corner travel guidebook You did better than me and I paid sticker. I think the deciding thing here is the scholarship. You have that and your options without being a lawyer are limited, so id stay in. But you may be fucked on what you want, and law career might not proceed like you had initial hoped. Sorry bro but at least bottom 1/3 isn't bottom 3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29601535) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:10 PM Author: passionate blathering tattoo Just drop out or at the very least take a year long leave of absence. the practice of law sucks. If you're still in your mid twenties there are still ample jobs that will take you and let you climb the corporate ladder. I liked law school but the legal work that actually pays (biglaw or some variation thereof) is soul deadening and your co workers will be a wretched bunch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606195) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:27 PM Author: Magenta karate station Suggest alternate careers for a mid to late 20s liberal arts bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606276) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 11:33 PM Author: Vigorous low-t liquid oxygen abode recruiting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29607669) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:13 PM Author: soggy antidepressant drug dropping out is the dumbest thing ever. start a law business with some xo poasters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606216) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:35 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone knife ticket booth just drop out and start applying like mad to marketing and sales jobs. you can climb the ladder and make more money/have more flexibility anyway. my gf works in advertising as an account director and makes more than what i made as a first year in big lol with a more fun job and better exit ops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606322) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 8:58 PM Author: Seedy flesh philosopher-king "my gf works in advertising as an account director and makes more than what i made as a first year in big lol with a more fun job and better exit ops."
That's .01% outcome for shitlib arts majors who dropped out of law school. OP didn't do that bad. He has a semester to turn it around. |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 9:01 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone knife ticket booth most people in advertising are tards anyway, it's not like you need some serious intellectual pedigree to work in marketing. and that's just one example. it's easier to climb the ladder in a business role than in law. XO is so stupid and closed minded about thisshit. just because you majored in liberal arts doesn't mean you are stuck with law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606493) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 9:05 PM Author: Seedy flesh philosopher-king I never said he doesn't have the brain for it. I'm just pointing out that that's an extremely rare outcome. He should do one more semester and then come back here for reevaluation. Stop filling his head with crazy ideas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606525) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 9:09 PM Author: Embarrassed to the bone knife ticket booth if he hustles and he's in his early-mid twenties, he can get some kind of corporate job, and will be better off than 99% of law grads. can be basically anything. you can make 120K+ doing anything after a few years if you stick with it. Best case scenario, he is median at UVA, and will be lucky to get a shit biglaw job he will burn out of in a couple years. he isn't going to a highly ranked firm anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606555) |
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Date: January 16th, 2016 9:28 AM Author: passionate blathering tattoo Precisely this. Working at some marketing position at linkedin or google will produce far better outcomes (in terms of pay and QOL) than joining reed smith's corporate department or some shit like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29609197) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 9:38 PM Author: Free-loading selfie hospital Vote TRUMP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3097849&forum_id=2#29606806) |