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http://nyti.ms/1Ulvfms Why racial achievement gaps were s...
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why are some of the worst districts in Alaska, when Inuit ar...
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i thought the race realist narrative was that it was the har...
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Different groups take different approaches to survival. IQ i...
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also the fact that when they breed fruit flies in these stud...
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I don't think there is a single "race realist" nar...
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sure, and there's no single shitlib narrative, or christian ...
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I think it's fair to say there is a dominant, shared narrati...
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i think you're really just rewording what i said in your sec...
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"The district covers a roadless area of about 200,000 s...
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bro haven't you heard, environment has a minimal impact on i...
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could still be true, after all grades have nothing to do wit...
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that would make the OP's entire point moot.
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the "race realist" argument is that genetics play ...
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in that case, simple correlations between race and school ac...
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I think a lot of the appeal of "race realism" on h...
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there must be a common theme that emerges from the data. wha...
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Mr. Reardon said that educators in these schools may sublimi...
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Jew > Asia > White > Hispanic > Negro.
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i agree with you on removing asians from comparison because ...
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Except a higher percentage of whites are in the higher socio...
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< The wealthier students tend to come from families where...
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what % of kids have two parents with phd's? maybe .5%?
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With ivf? Lets just say this study will have potential.
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It's the parental pressure to succeed, NOT any sort of inher...
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OBVIOUSLY also, need more data
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actually the other way around though no doubt pressure to su...
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actually, RACIST, it's purely parental pressure that makes t...
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This will take much more research and more funding. In th...
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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:19 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

http://nyti.ms/1Ulvfms

Why racial achievement gaps were so pronounced in affluent school districts is a puzzling question raised by the data.

Even in districts where where white students and their minority classmates had similar socioeconomic backgrounds, academic gaps persisted.

OH WHAT A PUZZLE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371875)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:43 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

why are some of the worst districts in Alaska, when Inuit are very genetically close to East Asians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373685)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:46 PM
Author: House-broken faggotry ape

Diverged before current East Asian IQ and temperment evolved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373704)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:47 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

i thought the race realist narrative was that it was the harsh climates of siberia and northern europe that caused superior intelligence to evolve in east asians and euros?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373713)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:02 PM
Author: Exhilarant Office Gaming Laptop

Different groups take different approaches to survival. IQ is a highly mutable trait. With selective breeding (this was tested on fruit flies but we have every reason to believe hunans are the same) it can vary by one standard deviation over just a few generations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373831)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:11 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

*asks fruit fly to complete Raven's Progressive matrices*

"(this was tested on fruit flies but we have every reason to believe hunans are the same) "

ROFL. [citation needed]

LOL @ the fruit-fly analogue of IQ being at all applicable to studies of human intelligence. LOL @ this bullshit pseudoscience.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373898)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:24 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

also the fact that when they breed fruit flies in these studies they're breeding from like the top 5% each generation, which never happens IRL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373978)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:31 PM
Author: Exhilarant Office Gaming Laptop

Within weeks you basically get an entirely new race of fruit flies its pretty cool. They are also weak, sickly, and are at a great disadvantage when trying to survive in the wild. Really sad statement on evolution right there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374038)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:11 PM
Author: Maroon casino

The flys were seen wearing what could best be described as tiny Yarmulke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374305)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:12 PM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374308)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:12 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness



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Date: April 29th, 2016 8:39 PM
Author: maniacal kitchen



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Alcoholic Space

INTP fruit flies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374346)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:15 PM
Author: Topaz Church

I don't think there is a single "race realist" narrative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373926)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:26 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

sure, and there's no single shitlib narrative, or christian narrative, or...

of course there's a diversity of opinions behind any ideological position. but there's a reason that these opinions are placed under the same umbrella.

race realists make the claim that from correlations between race and intelligence, we can infer that race causes intelligence differences. if you're going to make this strong claim, you need to posit a plausible causal mechanism at the very least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373990)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:47 PM
Author: Topaz Church

I think it's fair to say there is a dominant, shared narrative or theory among "race realists" in general, liberals in general, or Christians in general, on a number of topics. But drilling down to "it's the cold climate" goes way beyond that.

I don't think it's even accurate to say that "race realists" think that race "causes" intelligence differences. Rather, I think it's fair to say that race realists think measured IQ differences among races are due, at least in large part, to inherent/genetic factors rather than external, environmental factors.

I think the plausible causal mechanism is that genes affect development of all sorts of physiological characteristics, the brain might also develop differently depending on your genes, people within a racial/ethnic group are likely to have a more similar genetic profile in comparison to those outside the group, and it might include those genes that affect brain development.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374508)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 8:50 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

i think you're really just rewording what i said in your second paragraph, but ok.

inuit have a very similar genetic and phenotypic profile to east asians. unless there was very strong selective pressure specifically on intelligence genes in the short evolutionary timespan after these populations diverged, it's hard to explain their IQ differences genetically, and especially under the causal mechanism that you proposed (which assumes IQ differences are incidental to broader phenotypic variation).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30375679)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:25 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

"The district covers a roadless area of about 200,000 square kilometres (77,000 sq mi), roughly the size of Minnesota and North Dakota combined. The student population is roughly 98% Alaska Native, including Yup'ik, Siberian Yup'ik, and Inupiat Eskimos. Travel between villages is by air; the nearest road connection to the outside world is almost 300 miles (480 km) east of the district office in Unalakleet.

The communities in the district are traditional Eskimo villages which rely on subsistence activities such as hunting marine mammals and migratory birds, and gathering berries. Native dance and traditional crafts such as walrus ivory carving are still strong. At least four villages practice traditional whaling. There are few cash economy jobs, and the school is often the largest employer in each village."

no surprise these guys don't take to book learning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373983)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:27 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

bro haven't you heard, environment has a minimal impact on intelligence; race is the primary causative factor influencing intelligence. we know this because someone ran a correlation.

"their environment is why they don't take to booklearning" is what a non-race-realist would say to excuse dindunuffins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374001)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:29 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

could still be true, after all grades have nothing to do with intelligence as all XO splitters know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374016)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:30 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

that would make the OP's entire point moot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374030)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:12 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

maybe so, but I think it's an important point in its own right. we assume that people who do poorly in school are somehow "failing", or else being failed by society, because we assume that all cultural groups are the same as us and care about the same things. but somehow traditional rural eskimos don't seem as interested as mainstream americans in a curriculum that has little to do with their lifestyle or society. likewise, maybe poor rural blacks in mississippi AREN'T aspiring middleclassmos held back by white oppression or genetic inferiority. maybe they don't see the white man's learning and culture as their birthright at all. maybe when we try to socially engineer them to succeed in american education, we shouldn't think of it as "correcting" an "imbalance", but as the far more challenging task of trying to introduce a people to something they never had in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374309)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 7:05 PM
Author: Soggy shrine



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Date: April 29th, 2016 6:09 PM
Author: massive spectacular corner party of the first part

the "race realist" argument is that genetics play a significant role. the current mainstream interpretation is that genes play virtually no role and differences are almost exclusively the result of environment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374726)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 8:44 PM
Author: Bisexual lake base

in that case, simple correlations between race and school achievement don't really provide proof for this argument.

the burden of proof in science would be on proving there is a significant causal relationship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30375640)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 4:37 AM
Author: Alcoholic Space

I think a lot of the appeal of "race realism" on here is just a backlash against how superficial and PC the official explanations are. there's nothing all that rigorous about it, but it's an obvious alternative to all the not-especially-convincing boilerplate that's constantly thrown in our faces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377345)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:19 AM
Author: lascivious blue resort



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:22 AM
Author: Ungodly rambunctious degenerate

there must be a common theme that emerges from the data. what could it be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371890)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:22 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

Mr. Reardon said that educators in these schools may subliminally – or consciously in some cases – track white students into gifted courses while assigning black and Hispanic students to less rigorous courses.

FUCKING LMAO THE FARCE OF WHITE GUILT NEVER EVER ENDS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371896)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:25 AM
Author: maize demanding location mother

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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:26 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBSSS!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371923)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: Canary gas station double fault



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:29 AM
Author: sickened locus



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:37 AM
Author: Jade erotic sanctuary



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:29 AM
Author: lascivious blue resort

so if they're mistakenly in less rigorous courses shouldn't they excel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371953)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:31 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

uh . . . uhmm . . . more researched is obviously necessary!

(shitlibs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371959)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:56 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

Obviously the stereotypes become a self-fulfilling prophecy and make them perform worse, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372131)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 12:12 PM
Author: outnumbered crystalline cruise ship useless brakes

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372217)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:24 AM
Author: stubborn kitty cat point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371908)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:24 AM
Author: grizzly sadistic goal in life regret

Every study in every country, every test of intelligence or even knowledge anyone has come up with, and the result is always: asian > white > hispanic > black. More research needed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371906)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:25 AM
Author: lascivious blue resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371910)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:25 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371918)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:25 AM
Author: carnelian weed whacker school cafeteria

from the NYT graphic, it does not appear that there is a single school district in the entire United States where blacks outperform whites or asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371920)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:26 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

MORE RESEARCH NEEDED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371925)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 6:05 PM
Author: Canary gas station double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374682)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 10:28 AM
Author: shaky green area

Jew > Asia > White > Hispanic > Negro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377987)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 5:44 PM
Author: citrine razzmatazz senate quadroon

Jews > Asians > Whites > Indians > Muslims > Hispanics > Blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30521845)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:24 AM
Author: carnelian weed whacker school cafeteria

“This data is giving us a magnifying glass into places that have the same socioeconomic gaps but different achievement patterns,” said Rucker C. Johnson, associate professor of public policy at the University of California, Berkeley. “So we need to use that magnifying glass to figure out what the constellation of other factors” are that affect academics.

hmmmm... I wonder what it could be...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371909)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:25 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

OH WHAT A MYSTERY!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371913)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:27 AM
Author: stubborn kitty cat point

greatness: you didn't build that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCQ32dg2qY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371935)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:47 AM
Author: nubile 180 ticket booth personal credit line

WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER MAGNIFYING GLASS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372068)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:29 AM
Author: Well-lubricated set

JFC libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371948)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:35 AM
Author: chest-beating crackhouse

this is very easy to explain in a non-fucklaw way:

affirmative action policies have allowed dumber minorities to attain the same socioeconomic status as smarter whites. as a result, they do worse in schools when competing on a level playing field.

it does NOT, however, suggest that blacks are on average dumber than whites, or there is anything inherent in blackness that causes them to be dumb. it merely suggests that haphazard social engineering has elevated the wrong group of blacks ill equipped to compete with the top ranked whites who have been sorted by a more natural process that selects only for intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371982)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:36 AM
Author: carnelian weed whacker school cafeteria

(moron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30371986)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:38 AM
Author: chest-beating crackhouse

(guy literally comparing jamaal jr, whose parents work at the DMV, with ching sook wang, whose parents came over to the US on a STEM PhD scholarship, simply because both happen to live in the chapel hill area)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372002)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:11 PM
Author: Violet Heaven Mexican

i agree with you on removing asians from comparison because they a very self selected group. by average test scores/grades Indian kids in US are probably at the very top but if you test a truly random group of kids in India they would be some where around the hispanic test scores

But there is no getting around the white/black score gaps and your argument that AA somehow magically found the wrong kids is lulzy as fck since AA generally benefits the higher scoring black kids who are somewhat in consideration for admission so if this is true then the implication is opposite of what you are trying to sell here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373012)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:39 AM
Author: grizzly sadistic goal in life regret

Except a higher percentage of whites are in the higher socioeconomic classes, so for instance, a $100k income white is at the 80th white percentile while a $100k income black is at the 95th black percentile. And the white at that level still has a higher IQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372008)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:47 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372069)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:46 AM
Author: Filthy out-of-control lettuce piazza

Or maybe blacks in general are just ill equipped to compete with Asians in general?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372064)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:51 AM
Author: garnet stimulating national security agency

But see https://z139.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/800px-1995-sat-income211.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372092)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:55 AM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

*crickets*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372123)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 12:33 PM
Author: Magenta cumskin boltzmann

Yeah, I've seen that explanation before. I took a race and politics class in undergrad about 10 years ago and the professor claimed that the better measure was wealth. He claimed to have data showing that when income was replaced with wealth the SAT achievement gap by race was eliminated. Given the difficulty in getting accurate data on wealth, he used a certain proxy. It was interesting stuff, though I'm not sure whether the data held up or whether it was published. No matter the result, I do believe that the focus on income is often misplaced. I believe wealth inequality is far greater threat to political and economic stability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372341)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:06 PM
Author: Violet Heaven Mexican

this would literally have been the most ground breaking paper in social sciences in 50 years so you should RUN and remind him to publish. either that or his "research" is bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372977)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:21 PM
Author: lemon coiffed clown

if i were a betting man...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373089)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:34 PM
Author: Swashbuckling orchid haunted graveyard chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373165)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:49 AM
Author: garnet stimulating national security agency

< The wealthier students tend to come from families where, “let’s face it, both the parents are Ph.D.s, and that kid, no matter what happens in the school, is pressured from kindergarten to succeed,” >

Parents, you say? Makes you wonder if some of the traits might be heritable.

I guess we'll never know until sometime does a twins study.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372081)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:53 AM
Author: sapphire appetizing codepig

what % of kids have two parents with phd's? maybe .5%?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372117)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 11:57 AM
Author: garnet stimulating national security agency

There are 0.0 people who took that literally and are concerned about the study of the two-PhD scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372137)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:05 PM
Author: Exhilarant Office Gaming Laptop

With ivf? Lets just say this study will have potential.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373853)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 1:47 PM
Author: grizzly sadistic goal in life regret

It's the parental pressure to succeed, NOT any sort of inherited intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372872)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 1:48 PM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

OBVIOUSLY

also, need more data

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372878)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:16 PM
Author: Violet Heaven Mexican

actually the other way around though no doubt pressure to succeed plays a smaller role at least on realizing their potential

but if its not there its not there and no amount of tiger parenting is going to change things. there are countless asian/indian kids who get regression to mean pwned even though their parents are high achieving and put unbearable pressure on them to succeed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373052)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:21 PM
Author: grizzly sadistic goal in life regret

actually, RACIST, it's purely parental pressure that makes the kids of PhDs do better in school than the kids of uneducated proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373513)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 1:55 PM
Author: razzle jew

This will take much more research and more funding.

In the mean time, make sure to put all teachers through several "whiteness studies" courses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372911)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: stirring fishy box office crotch

Checking Your Privilege At the Classroom Door: A Spring 2016 Seminar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30372920)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:24 PM
Author: Alcoholic Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374373)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 7:05 PM
Author: Soggy shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30375093)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:23 PM
Author: Aromatic sable forum

Is there any other situation where the most obvious answer to a riddle is completely ignored

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373097)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:37 PM
Author: stubborn kitty cat point

See, Threads in re Motivations of Terrorists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373189)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:35 PM
Author: cowardly fantasy-prone private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374432)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: Ocher trip community account state

crime rates

police shootings



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373967)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 6:06 PM
Author: Canary gas station double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374697)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 6:10 PM
Author: Bipolar kink-friendly wagecucks mad-dog skullcap

Not as blatant but student loans. Maybe the price of these bloated institutions charge could have something to do with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374728)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 10:23 AM
Author: Naked puce hospital affirmative action

Crime Keeps On Falling, but Prisons Keep On Filling

By FOX BUTTERFIELD

Published: September 28, 1997

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/28/weekinreview/punitive-damages-crime-keeps-on-falling-but-prisons-keep-on-filling.html

IT has become a comforting story: for five straight years, crime has been falling, led by a drop in murder.

So why is the number of inmates in prisons and jails around the nation still going up? Last year, it reached almost 1.7 million, up about seven percent a year since 1990.

The question is not merely a trick quiz, because the costs of running America's constantly expanding prison system -- now more than $30 billion a year -- have begun to impose an enormous burden on state governments.

Already, California and Florida spend more to incarcerate people than to educate their college-age populations. In California, where the number of prisoners has grown from 19,000 two decades ago to 150,000 today, the state now faces a crisis because it is caught between voters' refusal to approve more money for prison construction and an expected huge influx of inmates over the next few years as more and more tough sentencing laws take effect. The California Department of Corrections has projected that it will run out of space in barely more than two years. The North Carolina legislature recently adopted sentencing guidelines for judges based on a computer model showing how much bed space is available in the state's prisons, much like a hotel reservation system.

Growth Industry

Some poor towns, from Tupper Lake, N.Y., in the Adirondacks to Edgefield, S.C., are cashing in on the prison boom, having successfully competed to be the sites of new prisons, with all the jobs they bring, just as states have dueled with each other for new German or Japanese automobile factories. Since 1990 alone, the number of prison and jail guards nationwide has increased by about 30 percent, to more than 600,000.

Of course, the huge increase in the number of inmates has helped lower the crime rate by incapacitating more criminals behind bars, though there is no generally accepted way to measure the impact; crime rose sharply in the mid- and late 1980's, for example, even as the rate of imprisonment rose much faster.

But a growing number of criminologists say they are troubled by evidence that the spiraling growth of prisons is also causing unintended consequences that may actually contribute to increased crime as well as undermine families and inner-city neighborhoods.

Home and Back

Foremost among these developments, the experts say, is that the prison boom has created its own growth dynamic. The larger the number of prisoners, the bigger the number of people who will someday be released, and then, either because of their own criminal propensities or their experience behind bars, will be likely to commit new crimes and to be rearrested. A growing number of these former inmates are being reincarcerated for parole or probation violations, often a result of failing a urine test for drugs.

The number of criminals being sent to prison for the second or more time has increased steadily, rising to 35 percent of the total number of admissions in 1995 from 18 percent in 1980, said Allen J. Beck, chief of corrections statistics at the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the statistical branch of the Justice Department.

As the number of prisoners continues to grow, some neighborhoods and cities feel dramatic effects. A study of Washington, D.C., issued last month found that half of black men there between the ages of 18 and 35 are under the control of the criminal justice system on any given day, either in prison or jail, or on probation.

Vanishing Stigma

''This suggests to me that we are weakening the role of the criminal justice system,'' said Alfred Blumstein, a criminologist at Carnegie Mellon University, because it was meant to deter crime by stigmatizing people with the threat of imprisonment. ''But we have now locked up so many people that we have lost the stigmatizing effect.''

At the same time, Mr. Blumstein said, by imprisoning such a large number of people, especially young black males, ''we have disrupted families and built up strong connections between criminal groups in prison and on the street.''

''All this contributes to high rates of crime in inner-city communities,'' Mr. Blumstein said.

There are several reasons why the prison population is continuing to surge even as crime rates around the nation have fallen, but at their heart is an often misunderstood truth, said Franklin Zimring, director of the Earl Warren Legal Institute at the University of California at Berkeley. ''The change in the number of inmates tells us more about our feelings about crime and criminals'' and about changes in sentencing laws than it does about crime rates.

Sometimes the disparities in rates of imprisonment have no more apparent explanation. North Dakota and South Dakota, for instance, are similar in their social, economic and racial makeup and have similar crime rates. But while North Dakota has a prison incarceration rate of only 90 per 100,000 people, South Dakota imprisons 279 per 100,000.

Parole? No.

The prison population also continues to grow because sentences have increased for many crimes and parole boards have also become much more sensitive to the public's demand for harsher treatment of criminals. As a result, release rates of those prisoners eligible for parole have declined to 31.2 percent in 1995 from 37 percent in 1990, and inmates therefore are spending more of their sentences behind bars, Mr. Beck said.

Another key factor is that drug arrests are not counted in the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual crime report. It includes crimes from murder to burglary, but not drug offenses, because they are not considered to have victims or likely to be reported to the police.

While other crimes have been declining, Mr. Beck said, the number of those arrested for drug offenses jumped 27 percent between 1990 and 1995. In fact, Mr. Blumstein said, criminals sentenced for drug offenses account for about half the growth in the prison population over the last 15 years.

John DiIulio Jr., a professor of politics and public affairs at Princeton University, said that in the past he believed most of those sentenced for drug offenses had also committed other crimes, often violent crimes, but new research he has conducted in New York State suggests that at least 25 percent of new inmates now are ''drug-only offenders,'' people who have never been charged with any other type of crime.

''I think what we are seeing is an increase in drug-only offenders, and this is unfortunate,'' Mr. DiIulio said.

Paying the Bills

California, with the largest number of prisoners, is facing the biggest challenge. In the last 20 years, California has built 21 new prisons but added only one university to what was once hailed as the world's best public university system. And while the share of the state budget going to the university system has fallen to 8 percent from 12.5 percent in 1990, the proportion for corrections has risen to 9.4 percent, up 4.5 percent, an amount that educators point out is identical to the loss in their funds. In the meantime, California's universities have had to lay off 10,000 employees, many of them professors, while in the same period the number of state prison guards has increased by 10,000.

''This is a crisis,'' said Barry Munitz, the chancellor of the California State University system. ''And the reason it is a crisis is that in California we capped government revenue with Prop 13, so every decision about spending is a tradeoff.''

''To me, you pay now for college, or you pay dramatically more later for prisons,'' for people who don't get an education and wind up committing crimes, said Mr. Munitz. ''The state sends us $6,000 per student,'' he pointed out, ''but it pays $34,000 a year for a prison inmate.''

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377964)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 11:59 AM
Author: Ocher trip community account state

Crime Keeps On Falling, but Prisons Keep On Filling

LJL libs LJL



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30378314)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 2:45 PM
Author: razzle jew

Anyone notice that many of the best performing black/Hispanic students are in Texas?

Is there any scholarship on this? Totally pwns the shitlib narrative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373238)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:45 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

lol, sorry to say but that's because texas jimmies the scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373700)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:46 PM
Author: razzle jew

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373710)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:28 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

they exclude lots of lower-performing students from being counted, invoking a range of different excuses in each case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374008)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:46 PM
Author: odious slate fanboi parlour

This is how Texas students wer scoring as Ivins mocked the state's schools:

Texas students, fourth-grade math, 2000 NAEP

White kids: Second in the nation (of 40 participating states)

Black kids: First in the nation (of 32 states)

Hispanic kids: Second in the nation (of 21 states)

Texas students, fourth-grade math, 1996 NAEP

White kids: First in the nation (of 43 participating states)

Black kids: First in the nation (of 35 states)

Hispanic kids: Second in the nation (of 25 states)

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/09/disaggregation-nation-gail-collins.html

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/09/disaggregation-nation-molly-ivins-made.html

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/09/disaggregation-nation-no-bogus-analysis.html

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/10/disaggregation-nation-collins-in.html

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/10/disaggregation-nation-very-old-regional.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374138)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Chocolate Abnormal Athletic Conference

nice to see that someone else here reads bob somerby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374345)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 3:44 PM
Author: big-titted twinkling uncleanness

why are NY's nigs and spics so much smarter than LA's?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373695)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 4:13 PM
Author: Violet Heaven Mexican

lot of the NYC blacks are recent immigrants from Africa/Carribean and they are a self selected group who managed to immigrate to US so are more likely to be educated etc. CA in contrast has the original historic black population

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30373915)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:28 PM
Author: grizzly sadistic goal in life regret

They have to be craftier to make it that far north and survive the cold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374388)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 5:42 PM
Author: Filthy out-of-control lettuce piazza

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374469)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 6:07 PM
Author: copper address skinny woman

OP is an idiot. Libs don't care about facts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30374711)



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Date: April 29th, 2016 10:54 PM
Author: laughsome apoplectic stage marketing idea

So even the wealthiest black district only barely makes it into the "about average" category? Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30376332)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 9:38 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

Here's NPR going on for an hour about all the ways Amerikkkan schools continue to be rayciss:

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/04/29/mpr_news_presents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377775)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 9:44 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

About 11 minutes in this chick says we just need more ethnic studies to close the achievement gap!

She also says certain kids are bad at long division due to low self-esteem, even though data has long shown that blacks have excellent self-esteem and Azns have low self-esteem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377810)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 9:46 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

American history is just "Euro-American history with people of color here and there." The focus on white people explains why others do worse.

But don't worry, having ethnic studies that focuses on other races will still HELP white people. Euro-American history is the only subject that hurts people, apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377816)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 10:02 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

Chick is now suggesting that different ethnic groups learn in different ways. Rationally this would suggest we should SEGREGATE everybody, but she says we actually need to keep everybody together while still teaching them all differently so that we can blend together in our richness, or something.

(she uses a lot of buzzwords)

She also hops on the lib hobby-horse that it's not fair that some school are able to focus on educating normals without sinking 40% of their budget into special ed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377880)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 10:13 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

Moderator now asking about the state's "shameful" racial achievement gap, and what the malicious cause might be of why whites do so well but so many immigrants who can't speak English perform so much worse.

Earlier there was a lot of chatter about how Minnesota's math test scores are declining and aren't world-class anymore. Nobody really had a good idea why that was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377919)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 10:16 AM
Author: laughsome apoplectic stage marketing idea

This is hilarious. Keep it coming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3209305&forum_id=2#30377936)



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Date: April 30th, 2016 12:04 PM
Author: Ocher trip community account state

fake news shtick is going to become obsolete if libs keep it up

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Date: April 30th, 2016 1:34 PM
Author: Alcoholic Space



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Date: April 30th, 2016 1:53 PM
Author: Sienna circlehead



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Date: April 30th, 2016 10:24 AM
Author: swollen greedy business firm roommate

Minnesota doesn't have as many college counselors as recommended by the college counselor professional organization. If only we had more money for dem counselors!

Now, a guy says that, while he's not a "crazy right-wing Christian," it may help if we got religious leaders involved somehow in public schools to motivate kids. Inshallah!

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Date: April 30th, 2016 1:33 PM
Author: Alcoholic Space

fucking hell

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Date: May 21st, 2016 11:09 AM
Author: galvanic zippy water buffalo



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