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San Francisco's mayor is fucking retarded.
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 4:44 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend http://fortune.com/2016/05/22/driverless-cars-income-gap/
San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee: “Right now, I can’t buy the land occupied by gasoline stations because of the high value the owner derives from its current use,” he told us. “When gas stations become redundant, that space could open up and be used for affordable housing.”
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Yeah, commercial property on high traffic corners will become cheap all of a sudden. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:23 PM Author: Pearl Theater Stage huh? that's not retarded. gas stations in, for example, NYC have been turning into apartment buildings for years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533887) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:30 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend The real estate became too valuable for gas stations to make sense. The highest and best use became apartments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533930) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2016 1:40 PM Author: Aromatic church And I'm sure normal people with normal salaries have been able to move into said apartment buildings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30539871) |
Date: May 22nd, 2016 4:49 PM Author: plum electric parlour that's the same retard who forced out his police chief right after a JUSTIFIED shooting of a car thief.
frisco deserves the shitty leadership it gets, though. its voters are pants-on-head leftist mongoloids. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 4:52 PM Author: Hyperactive hospital mood The bay area is going to collapse on itself because it can't figure out how to increase the housing supply. This is made worse by liberals like Lee who think that the main priority must be "affordable housing" rather than just increasing the supply massively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533706) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:10 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend "it can't figure out how to increase the housing supply"
Normally, I'd charge hundreds of thousands of dollars for this insight, but I'm feeling generous today.
Lift the height restrictions.
If you go here, you can see the height restrictions under the Height & Bulk folder:
Huge portions of SF have low, 40-foot height limits.
If SF were as dense as Manhattan, it would have 4 times as many people. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:16 PM Author: pink hateful kitty cat psychic the problem is this should've happened like 50 years ago
now you'd have some 32 unit 4-floor building in richmond being replaced by a 32-unit 16 floor building with ten million dollar condos bought by all cash chinese buyers. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:32 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend http://cacb.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533855 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533942) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2016 6:48 AM Author: pea-brained laughsome deer antler center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30538042) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:21 PM Author: Hyperactive hospital mood No shit sherlock. I meant as a political problem in defeating the coalition of NIMBYs and "affordable housing" shitlibs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533868) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:32 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend http://cacb.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533855 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533946) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 6:13 PM Author: Adventurous Brindle Area If SF were as dense as Manhattan, it would be fucking hellish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534217) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 6:16 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend I don't see why it would be anymore hellish than MFH.
In any case, it doesn't really matter. SF wouldn't need to have MFH density to substantially reduce its housing prices. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 7:33 PM Author: Onyx Jet-lagged Love Of Her Life It doesn't have the transportation network of MFH for one thing. Also the homeless problem is way worse in SF despite being less populated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534640) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 4:54 PM Author: Doobsian olive public bath or maybe they could drastically reduce zoning restrictions and let developers turn SF into a sea of skyscrapers like it should be. eliminating rent control would also help a lot more than this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533711) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 4:57 PM Author: Hyperactive hospital mood This could be big: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-brown-housing-plan-20160514-snap-story.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533722) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:00 PM Author: pink hateful kitty cat psychic for the most part residential skyscrapers built in the 21st century haven't been very high density at all. we realized decades ago there's more profit in massive luxury condos than actually satisfying housing demand.
also lol at "just do no zoning restrictions free market will make the city great again" as XO's suggested panacea. sunbelt cities with lax restrictions are sprawled out shitholes. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:11 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend Where is SF going to sprawl to? It's completely built out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533795) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:15 PM Author: offensive cruise ship no it's not. they have huge areas with 1-3 story buildings. within the city there should be denser residential corridors with 6-12 story buildings. outside the city, all along 101 and caltrain, there should be 6-20 story buildings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533820) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:22 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend There is no such thing as vertical sprawl.
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:21 PM Author: pink hateful kitty cat psychic zoning != height restriction
there's a happy medium between no balls out no zoning and careful planning. SF would suck balls if it had MFH density--the realities of america 2016 prevent any sort of reasonable cost public mass transit from being built. SF already has the pretty much the slowest public transportation of any major city in the US considering it's relatively small area, plus you'd remove what little character the city has left
there are certainly areas which are good candidates for it though. the entire sunset is full of drab single-family houses and is the largest zone in the city.
NOZONING trolls would happily see the entire city turn into a boring 5x5 square chunk of luxury skyscrapers. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 7:29 PM Author: Slippery thriller office reading party 7x7, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534612) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:31 PM Author: Doobsian olive public bath residential skyscrapers are dominated by luxury units because there are typically not many of them available. if you let developers put up as many as the market could bear, they would eventually start catering to a lower income group.
"sunbelt cities with lax restrictions are sprawled out shitholes. "
affordability is a more important concern than preserving a city's character or whatever the fuck you are worried about.
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:40 PM Author: pink hateful kitty cat psychic if you let developers put up as many as the market could bear, they would eventually start catering to a lower income group.
even in cities like Houston there isn't some burgeoning high-density affordable development boom; high-density developer-led housing in houston is almost entirely on the yuppie side of the spectrum. why would a developer have an interest in building a bunch of affordable units? large buildings are expensive, and the margin for "affordable" building would be negative.
developers will always prioritize high margin units, because poors can always live in shitty housing out in bumfuck.
the cycle eventually goes expensive units in the core -> push the shit out to the less desirable suburbs
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:43 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend I already solved this problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534013) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:47 PM Author: pink hateful kitty cat psychic I don't disagree with something like that, but it's very very far from "no zoning" libertarianism. That's carefully planned city growth, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534039) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 4:58 PM Author: glittery dysfunction https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Mayor_Ed_Lee_closeup.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533730) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:11 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend There's your problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533789) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:13 PM Author: French henna queen of the night haunted graveyard Looks like that NOWAG tried a little too hard to assimilate in SF's 80s gay culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533806) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:22 PM Author: Contagious Persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533878) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:21 PM Author: Contagious Persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30533871) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2016 1:38 PM Author: Irradiated macaca selfie If you live in a liberal city and the choice was between an Asian or white candidate, vote for the Asian.
You can't be sure if the white candidate is a deranged leftist like de blasio who will put the city on a path to self destruction. The liberal Asian guy will accommodate the leftists in the coalition but doesn't have that true believer derangement in leftist stuff to bring down the city. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 5:19 PM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend Here's my proposal:
1 - SF lifts the height cap if the property is used primarily for affordable housing. We can fight over the definition of "affordable housing" later.
2 - After a few years, the owners can sell their properties at market prices to anyone they want.
3 - BOOM! Developers make tons of housing and shitlibs create a huge wealth transfer to regular folks.
We can pay off nearby NIMBYs by requiring that a percentage of the appreciation be paid to them. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 6:12 PM Author: razzmatazz mad cow disease fat ankles let's do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534215) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 7:26 PM Author: Onyx Jet-lagged Love Of Her Life FYI, you should NEVER live in a house or building built over a former gas station. All kinds of toxins in the ground that will take decades to go away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534596) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2016 6:49 AM Author: pea-brained laughsome deer antler center cr
ur future house going "hehe" as CHEMICAL CHAD seeps into her groundwater |
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 7:32 PM Author: Crusty talented address cuckold or san francisco could let property developers buy a block of those old victorian homes, dismantle them and build extremely large high rises. but libs don't want that for some reason (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30534635) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2016 7:27 AM Author: Lilac Organic Girlfriend Life shouldn't have trade-offs and hard choices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30538093) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2016 7:44 AM Author: Buff place of business crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3230966&forum_id=2#30538111) |