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WSJ: 29.4% of US households are upper middle class

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/21/not-just-the-1-the...
self-absorbed box office
  06/22/16
Lol at 100k household income being UMC
obsidian meetinghouse psychic
  06/22/16
Double median household income is UMC.
Frozen medicated hominid
  06/22/16
lol, so you consider a nurse and a truck driver with 3 kids ...
Indigo abusive foreskin masturbator
  06/22/16
If they clear $100,000, yes, that's a great deal of money.
Frozen medicated hominid
  06/22/16
LOL
Indigo abusive foreskin masturbator
  06/22/16
(xo 2016)
multi-colored peach lettuce
  06/22/16
lol you stupid fucking poor in a two-income household you...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
dood, the chart says $350k household is top 1% income thresh...
maniacal hairraiser gay wizard
  06/23/16
A high level nurse and owner/operator truck driver can make ...
Thriller striped hyena national
  06/23/16
"clear 100K". LOL, no.
razzle-dazzle alcoholic native
  06/23/16
ljl. someone "clearing 100k" in are country is ...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
dumbass thinks this is an article about after tax income. ...
razzle-dazzle alcoholic native
  06/23/16
either pre- or post-tax it's not enough for an individual to...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
There is a steep cliff of the haves and have nots in this ar...
razzle-dazzle alcoholic native
  06/23/16
You can't be UMC if you can't even afford to retire at a dec...
Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station
  06/23/16
forget retirement. at $100k you're basically piling up thous...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
Huh? Only if you're a retard. Which no doubt a lot of people...
aphrodisiac corner
  06/23/16
(faggot making "soup" out of chicken skins and tak...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
lol you seem really angry and in debt
aphrodisiac corner
  06/23/16
lol you seem really poor
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
Don't worry things will turn around for you :-)
aphrodisiac corner
  06/23/16
Are you kidding? That's like 6K a month cleared. Not eve...
razzle-dazzle alcoholic native
  06/23/16
CR. A six-figure salary isn't what it used to be. But yo...
Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad
  06/23/16
sure, maybe you won't be starving, but $100k would barely be...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
You're estimating a 30 year fixed? Otherwise your $1,400 all...
comical infuriating lay
  06/23/16
A nurse and truck driver making $100k a year in are country ...
henna cuckoldry
  06/22/16
This. Outside a few cities, 100K/yr is a shitload of $$$. Th...
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
thats one person making 100K per year, not two people combin...
multi-colored peach lettuce
  06/22/16
this subthread literally started with the phrase "100k ...
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
so your mom didn't work? no way you had all that stuff then.
multi-colored peach lettuce
  06/22/16
no, sahm because she is heroic
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
TYFT
Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad
  06/23/16
I'll back you up friend! Your mom staying home is/was worth ...
Thriller striped hyena national
  06/23/16
ballin out of control on 5 grand post tax a month
self-absorbed box office
  06/22/16
what do you faggots spend your money on, only in my and my w...
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
i'm giving you a hard time. guess you can make that work on ...
self-absorbed box office
  06/22/16
you know you can take cr vacations in the us
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
lol wtf, my wife and i spend $5k on a single weekend sometim...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
You're spending 250k a year on average? Power to you if y...
Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad
  06/23/16
lol. the person arguing this must be still in college and ne...
multi-colored peach lettuce
  06/22/16
You know that phrase "the whole is greater than the sum...
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
food doesn't double when you have double the people?
multi-colored peach lettuce
  06/22/16
food costs certainly don't. jfc have you ever gone grocery ...
umber glittery newt patrolman
  06/22/16
They probably more than double cuz you gotta take your woman...
obsidian meetinghouse psychic
  06/22/16
Balling? No, they wouldn't. Step 1: Tell me about thei...
Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station
  06/23/16
I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan. Half of my ...
Soul-stirring hall
  06/24/16
"I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan."...
Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station
  06/24/16
http://www.marines.com/being-a-marine/roles-in-the-corps/log...
Soul-stirring hall
  06/24/16
A specialized Nurse and an Owner/Operator Truck Driver can m...
Thriller striped hyena national
  06/23/16
in MFH you're poor in Peoria you're a fucking god
Curious sexy spot deer antler
  06/24/16
It's actually more like 10-12%.
fragrant home boistinker
  06/22/16
i'm surprised that 30% of households make more than 100k
self-absorbed box office
  06/22/16
It's hard NOT to make 100k in a dual income home and most wo...
obsidian meetinghouse psychic
  06/22/16
i've never found satisfying stats on top 10% personal or hou...
self-absorbed box office
  06/22/16
It varies so much by area of country
obsidian meetinghouse psychic
  06/22/16
I feel like this is misleading, because a family of four wit...
umber glittery newt patrolman
  06/22/16
how do you figure? the latter potentially has better benefit...
Blue stimulating macaca
  06/22/16
Stay at home moms are valued at 350k (Slate
obsidian meetinghouse psychic
  06/22/16
The latter almost always has higher costs. Childcare obviou...
umber glittery newt patrolman
  06/22/16
CR. I know a lot of teacher-teacher couples. Having put in s...
Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad
  06/23/16
Exactly. Do you know any family that would rather have tw...
umber glittery newt patrolman
  06/23/16
Echoing others' comments here, it seems almost obvious. ...
Soul-stirring hall
  06/24/16
Teachers in most areas of the country start our at $20K-30K,...
Effete dilemma
  06/24/16
according to a teacher friend of mine in san antonio, the ci...
green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete
  06/22/16
LOL no.
Dull Temple Elastic Band
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Awesome, I'm "rich." That must be why I live in a ...
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Time to start paying your fair share so we can get mo money ...
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Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad
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LOL WSJ: no no no dont look at us hedge fund bros and the to...
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180 And it's not even so much the 1%--there needs to be m...
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Amber Azn
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Correct
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This guy fucking gets it.
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That's a pretty broad definition of UMC. I would have tho...
Bearded school
  06/22/16
I'm at around 200k and I definitely don't feel UMC. I feel l...
obsidian meetinghouse psychic
  06/22/16
i'd say umc is 175k to 250k household income you can have a...
Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button
  06/22/16
(dood who makes 175k)
self-absorbed box office
  06/23/16
no way. maybe you could say that 200k take home is the lowe...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
yeah, no The official report measuring affluence in the Uni...
Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button
  06/23/16
your statistics aren't accurate
self-absorbed box office
  06/23/16
it's from answers.com you may be right
Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button
  06/23/16
average LAPD pay with benefits is over 100k. they're not the...
self-absorbed box office
  06/23/16
most cops don't make anywhere near that, though
Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button
  06/23/16
http://whatsmypercent.com
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  06/23/16
they must be including children, retired people, prisoners, ...
Gold Zombie-like Bbw
  06/23/16
maybe, i don't know probably should include everyone, thoug...
Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button
  06/23/16
Ummm...percentage-wise...headline is dimbfuck
wine tanning salon
  06/22/16
http://whatsmypercent.com
Bull headed public bath mexican
  06/23/16
ITT: Whites debate whether 200k or 300k is enough to raise a...
gaped trailer park
  06/23/16
hehe
Lascivious coffee pot
  06/23/16
"income" is pretty meaningless..its more about pas...
Thriller striped hyena national
  06/23/16
This. Old guy who owns 5 houses and "earns" $80...
comical infuriating lay
  06/23/16
"Using Census Bureau data available through 2014, he de...
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  06/24/16
God what a shit thread. Retards wildly speculating about co...
Effete dilemma
  06/24/16
Fucking this. People that have no idea there is ample qualit...
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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:03 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/21/not-just-the-1-the-upper-middle-class-is-larger-and-richer-than-ever/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759928)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:07 AM
Author: obsidian meetinghouse psychic

Lol at 100k household income being UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759939)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: Frozen medicated hominid

Double median household income is UMC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760070)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:31 AM
Author: Indigo abusive foreskin masturbator

lol, so you consider a nurse and a truck driver with 3 kids UMC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760109)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:34 AM
Author: Frozen medicated hominid

If they clear $100,000, yes, that's a great deal of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760125)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: Indigo abusive foreskin masturbator

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760137)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: multi-colored peach lettuce

(xo 2016)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760143)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:35 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

lol you stupid fucking poor

in a two-income household you'd have to be clearing $100,000 EACH (post-tax, rent, and loan payments) to be UMC. realistically you're looking at a $400k+ combined gross income to be considered upper-middle-class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768816)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:18 AM
Author: maniacal hairraiser gay wizard

dood, the chart says $350k household is top 1% income threshold.

I don't think UMC and the top 1% are the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770024)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:22 AM
Author: Thriller striped hyena national

A high level nurse and owner/operator truck driver can make well over 400k/yr gross combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770046)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:47 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle alcoholic native

"clear 100K".

LOL, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768867)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

ljl.

someone "clearing 100k" in are country is barely scraping by and living off of credit card debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768880)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:50 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle alcoholic native

dumbass thinks this is an article about after tax income.

JFC. How far has this site fallen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768888)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:52 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

either pre- or post-tax it's not enough for an individual to live off of, let alone consider it "upper middle class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768900)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:53 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle alcoholic native

There is a steep cliff of the haves and have nots in this article.

It sound like half this country is now living in abject poverty.

So, the middle class has been squeezed to the point that there is a steep divide between the 50K family and the 100K family.

We're just fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768911)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:53 AM
Author: Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station

You can't be UMC if you can't even afford to retire at a decent age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768909)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:57 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

forget retirement. at $100k you're basically piling up thousands in credit card debt every month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768927)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:58 AM
Author: aphrodisiac corner

Huh? Only if you're a retard. Which no doubt a lot of people are, but still...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768933)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:59 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

(faggot making "soup" out of chicken skins and taking it to work in a thermos for lunch)

sorry shithead, i want to live with a decent standard of living, that doesnt make me retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768939)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: aphrodisiac corner

lol you seem really angry and in debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768943)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

lol you seem really poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768945)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:01 AM
Author: aphrodisiac corner

Don't worry things will turn around for you :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768948)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle alcoholic native

Are you kidding? That's like 6K a month cleared. Not everyone lives in NYC or CA.

You should be $1,400 all in on taxes, insurance, mortgage -- on a $300K house.

Public school is free.

WTF? You need a new Hermes scarf every day or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768947)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:02 AM
Author: Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad

CR.

A six-figure salary isn't what it used to be. But you can live a very decent life on 100k, banking away cash, and not having to sweat life much.

This is assuming non-LA/NY/SF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769659)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

sure, maybe you won't be starving, but $100k would barely be lower middle class, even for a single childless person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770140)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:13 AM
Author: comical infuriating lay

You're estimating a 30 year fixed? Otherwise your $1,400 all-in is quite low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770417)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: henna cuckoldry

A nurse and truck driver making $100k a year in are country would be balling out of control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760139)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:44 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

This. Outside a few cities, 100K/yr is a shitload of $$$. That's what my dad made about the time my sister was graduating from HS, and my parents were going on vacations and booming like crazy, 3000 sq ft house, 18 acre tract, pretty new cars, etc. Restaurants whenever.

Dad is currently doing all kinds of awesome vacations like fishing in the Canadian wilderness, elk hunting in western US, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760197)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:47 AM
Author: multi-colored peach lettuce

thats one person making 100K per year, not two people combined. do you realize you make like 800 per week after taxes when you make 50K? so in this house, the dad brings home 800 per week and the mom brings home 800 per week, then you have to pay for a mortgage plus kids? I would argue such a family is borderline poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760228)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

this subthread literally started with the phrase "100k household income" and no my mom and dad are two people combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760244)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: multi-colored peach lettuce

so your mom didn't work? no way you had all that stuff then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760247)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:50 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

no, sahm because she is heroic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760249)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:03 AM
Author: Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad

TYFT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769663)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:29 AM
Author: Thriller striped hyena national

I'll back you up friend! Your mom staying home is/was worth a fortune..no maid needed or daycare needed and many other high $ expenses saved plus you're a more normal person for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770099)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

ballin out of control on 5 grand post tax a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760248)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:51 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

what do you faggots spend your money on, only in my and my wife's most profligate months do we spend more than that and it's certainly not because we don't have the $$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760256)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:53 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

i'm giving you a hard time. guess you can make that work on vacations to south america or w/e. but not really on vacations to europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760268)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:54 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

you know you can take cr vacations in the us



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760274)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:35 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

lol wtf, my wife and i spend $5k on a single weekend sometimes. but more commonly it'll be $5k over a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768821)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:05 AM
Author: Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad

You're spending 250k a year on average?

Power to you if you can afford that. But that explains why you can't comprehend a family living well on 5k/month post tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769669)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:53 AM
Author: multi-colored peach lettuce

lol. the person arguing this must be still in college and never lived in the real world. lol at an 800 a week per person income being a lot. thats like the minimum to survive. when I first got out of college and was making that much, I couldn't even afford to live on my own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760265)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:56 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

You know that phrase "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts"? mortgage and food and shit don't double when you double the people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760292)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:57 AM
Author: multi-colored peach lettuce

food doesn't double when you have double the people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760301)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:03 AM
Author: umber glittery newt patrolman

food costs certainly don't. jfc have you ever gone grocery shopping?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760330)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: obsidian meetinghouse psychic

They probably more than double cuz you gotta take your woman out all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760491)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:54 AM
Author: Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station

Balling?

No, they wouldn't.

Step 1: Tell me about their retirement plan.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768916)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:39 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan. Half of my salary* for life.

*salary for retirement purposes is the average of the highest-earning three years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786387)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:48 PM
Author: Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station

"I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan."

Yes, some people win the lottery.

Now let's get back to those nurses and truck drivers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786448)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

http://www.marines.com/being-a-marine/roles-in-the-corps/logistics-combat-element/motor-transport

http://explorehealthcareers.org/en/Career/80/Nurse_Anesthetist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786476)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:20 AM
Author: Thriller striped hyena national

A specialized Nurse and an Owner/Operator Truck Driver can make YUGE $

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770035)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:17 PM
Author: Curious sexy spot deer antler

in MFH you're poor

in Peoria you're a fucking god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782298)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:09 AM
Author: fragrant home boistinker

It's actually more like 10-12%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759958)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:11 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

i'm surprised that 30% of households make more than 100k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759972)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:13 AM
Author: obsidian meetinghouse psychic

It's hard NOT to make 100k in a dual income home and most women work now. Lol at calling a teacher couple making 120k combined UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759982)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:15 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

i've never found satisfying stats on top 10% personal or household income. i don't think it's all that high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759996)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:16 AM
Author: obsidian meetinghouse psychic

It varies so much by area of country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760001)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:21 AM
Author: umber glittery newt patrolman

I feel like this is misleading, because a family of four with one parent making $120k is richer than one with two parents each making $60k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760030)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: Blue stimulating macaca

how do you figure? the latter potentially has better benefits, and taxes would be similar. not to mention the level of stability is higher when you have two people making 60k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760054)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: obsidian meetinghouse psychic

Stay at home moms are valued at 350k (Slate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760067)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:33 AM
Author: umber glittery newt patrolman

The latter almost always has higher costs. Childcare obviously, but also they end up paying a lot more for conveniences.

There's also value to having a parent spend more time with the kids.

Finally, you have two parents each putting in full work weeks for $120k in the latter case, whereas in the former, you have a lot of excess capacity on the part of one spouse to get other things done, and if the non-working spouse decides to work, you will have even higher income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760122)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad

CR. I know a lot of teacher-teacher couples. Having put in some years with their respective school districts, their combined income is probably approaching 100k, but they're poor as F. Mainly because they have the childcare haircut.

Additionally, their lives kinda suck because they spend about 1 quality hour a day together as a family.

Totally different situation if you have a breadwinner and a caregiver, where the breadwinner makes 100k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769678)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:02 AM
Author: umber glittery newt patrolman

Exactly.

Do you know any family that would rather have two working parents each making $200k, as opposed to one working parent making $400k? I sure don't. Division of labor, baby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769938)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:52 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

Echoing others' comments here, it seems almost obvious.

For one thing, strongly disagree that the latter has better benefits. Benefits packages typically include families, and a position paying $120k/yr is more than twice as likely to provide generous benefits than a position paying $60k/yr.

Stability might be higher if someone loses their job. But if someone loses their job, then we're no longer comparing $120k to $120k. We're comparing $40k to $80k (assuming an unemployment payment of 1/3 pay).

The value of housework and logistics is not negligible. Daycare, meal prep, cleaning, etc. all have significant monetary value. Maid service averages $157 nationally. Do that once per week and you're talking about $8,000 a year. Childcare averages $11,666 per year in the U.S. That's already a $20,000 tax-free advantage of $120k over $60k+$60k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786467)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: Effete dilemma

Teachers in most areas of the country start our at $20K-30K, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782220)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:46 AM
Author: green scourge upon the earth keepsake machete

according to a teacher friend of mine in san antonio, the city just voted to make STARTING SALARY for a public school teacher there something like 52K/yr

base starting salary in dallas is 50K/yr https://thehub.dallasisd.org/2015/04/20/salary-range-for-dallas-isd-teachers-increases-to-50000-90000/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760215)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:17 AM
Author: Dull Temple Elastic Band

LOL no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760002)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:18 AM
Author: Citrine bearded multi-billionaire

Awesome, I'm "rich." That must be why I live in a 400 square foot apartment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760008)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: stubborn kink-friendly stage

Time to start paying your fair share so we can get mo money for dem programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760075)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769680)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:19 AM
Author: Motley crackhouse old irish cottage

LOL WSJ: no no no dont look at us hedge fund bros and the top 1% of MFH and the few billionaires owning more than like 30% of the USA or whatever, you REALLY need to look at those damn teacher/plumber families that scrape together 100K, fuck them, UMC v middle class is the REAL WAR!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760016)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:20 AM
Author: Carmine irate stage karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760024)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:32 AM
Author: beady-eyed thirsty theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760117)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:18 AM
Author: aphrodisiac corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768743)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:20 AM
Author: passionate cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768755)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:57 AM
Author: Dashing bat-shit-crazy gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768930)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: aqua milk associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769679)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:10 AM
Author: Contagious ocher internal respiration police squad

180

And it's not even so much the 1%--there needs to be more emphasis on the .1%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769682)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: gaped trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769696)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:22 AM
Author: Amber Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769742)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:48 AM
Author: cyan black woman garrison

Correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30781718)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:49 AM
Author: Dull Temple Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30781722)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: Stirring primrose kitty place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782138)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: Buck-toothed whorehouse rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782141)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:05 PM
Author: Supple coldplay fan love of her life

This guy fucking gets it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782230)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Crawly Athletic Conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782264)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: Bearded school

That's a pretty broad definition of UMC.

I would have thought it was more like $200k household income minimum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760053)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:27 AM
Author: obsidian meetinghouse psychic

I'm at around 200k and I definitely don't feel UMC. I feel like UMC is more 300-350k beginning range....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760083)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:31 AM
Author: Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button

i'd say umc is 175k to 250k household income

you can have a family, take vacations, save for retirement, and not worry about the cost of any staples

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760478)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:11 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

(dood who makes 175k)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768711)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

no way. maybe you could say that 200k take home is the lowest rung of UMC (so you're clearing ~400k gross before taxes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768810)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:45 AM
Author: Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button

yeah, no

The official report measuring affluence in the United States states that appox. 1% of individuals in the country make $100,000 a year before taxes. .05% make $250,000 or more and .01% make $400,000 or more before taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768864)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:48 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

your statistics aren't accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768872)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button

it's from answers.com

you may be right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768885)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:51 AM
Author: self-absorbed box office

average LAPD pay with benefits is over 100k. they're not the 1%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768897)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:14 AM
Author: Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button

most cops don't make anywhere near that, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768993)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:11 AM
Author: Bull headed public bath mexican

http://whatsmypercent.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769688)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:48 AM
Author: Gold Zombie-like Bbw

they must be including children, retired people, prisoners, and the mentally defective in those figures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768874)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:51 AM
Author: Marvelous Orchestra Pit Factory Reset Button

maybe, i don't know

probably should include everyone, though, don't you think? i guess it depends if the op included them or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768898)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:28 AM
Author: wine tanning salon

Ummm...percentage-wise...headline is dimbfuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760093)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Bull headed public bath mexican

http://whatsmypercent.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769694)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: gaped trailer park

ITT: Whites debate whether 200k or 300k is enough to raise a family while Latino raise three kids on 50k combined income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769695)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:00 AM
Author: Lascivious coffee pot

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769928)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:38 AM
Author: Thriller striped hyena national

"income" is pretty meaningless..its more about passive income stream and net worth..not what you make at some jew fraud $cam job/career

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770160)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:18 AM
Author: comical infuriating lay

This.

Old guy who owns 5 houses and "earns" $80k a year is worth a lot more than the biglaw senior associate with $300k income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770447)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: internet-worthy casino

"Using Census Bureau data available through 2014, he defines the upper middle class as any household earning $100,000 to $350,000 for a family of three: at least double the U.S. median household income and about five times the poverty level."

Depending on COL, this sounds about right. $100k is downright poverty-line in NYC for a household (though not necessarily for your average singleton living with roommates in Murray Hill), but a family in Kansas City could do well off of that.

I actually think a lot of these people in the $100k-$350k range are in a precarious spot and I don't necessarily agree with the WSJ's conclusion that it's the UMC folks vs. everyone else. There are more UMC-paying jobs, but shit costs more and certain cities are getting much more expensive (and those are the cities with the highest growth rate in UMC jobs, likely).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782258)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: Effete dilemma

God what a shit thread. Retards wildly speculating about cost of living differences they don't understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782265)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:57 PM
Author: henna cuckoldry

Fucking this. People that have no idea there is ample quality housing available for <$200k in a significant portion of the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786517)