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WSJ: 29.4% of US households are upper middle class

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/21/not-just-the-1-the...
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/22/16
Lol at 100k household income being UMC
twisted tantric pit
  06/22/16
Double median household income is UMC.
vigorous black wrinkle
  06/22/16
lol, so you consider a nurse and a truck driver with 3 kids ...
Disturbing painfully honest dingle berry center
  06/22/16
If they clear $100,000, yes, that's a great deal of money.
vigorous black wrinkle
  06/22/16
LOL
Disturbing painfully honest dingle berry center
  06/22/16
(xo 2016)
Green hall
  06/22/16
lol you stupid fucking poor in a two-income household you...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
dood, the chart says $350k household is top 1% income thresh...
Swashbuckling abode roommate
  06/23/16
A high level nurse and owner/operator truck driver can make ...
grizzly orchestra pit
  06/23/16
"clear 100K". LOL, no.
impertinent galvanic area legal warrant
  06/23/16
ljl. someone "clearing 100k" in are country is ...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
dumbass thinks this is an article about after tax income. ...
impertinent galvanic area legal warrant
  06/23/16
either pre- or post-tax it's not enough for an individual to...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
There is a steep cliff of the haves and have nots in this ar...
impertinent galvanic area legal warrant
  06/23/16
You can't be UMC if you can't even afford to retire at a dec...
Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets
  06/23/16
forget retirement. at $100k you're basically piling up thous...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
Huh? Only if you're a retard. Which no doubt a lot of people...
Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness
  06/23/16
(faggot making "soup" out of chicken skins and tak...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
lol you seem really angry and in debt
Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness
  06/23/16
lol you seem really poor
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
Don't worry things will turn around for you :-)
Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness
  06/23/16
Are you kidding? That's like 6K a month cleared. Not eve...
impertinent galvanic area legal warrant
  06/23/16
CR. A six-figure salary isn't what it used to be. But yo...
sadistic hilarious stead
  06/23/16
sure, maybe you won't be starving, but $100k would barely be...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
You're estimating a 30 year fixed? Otherwise your $1,400 all...
pink domesticated corn cake
  06/23/16
A nurse and truck driver making $100k a year in are country ...
Metal puce senate
  06/22/16
This. Outside a few cities, 100K/yr is a shitload of $$$. Th...
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
thats one person making 100K per year, not two people combin...
Green hall
  06/22/16
this subthread literally started with the phrase "100k ...
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
so your mom didn't work? no way you had all that stuff then.
Green hall
  06/22/16
no, sahm because she is heroic
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
TYFT
sadistic hilarious stead
  06/23/16
I'll back you up friend! Your mom staying home is/was worth ...
grizzly orchestra pit
  06/23/16
ballin out of control on 5 grand post tax a month
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/22/16
what do you faggots spend your money on, only in my and my w...
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
i'm giving you a hard time. guess you can make that work on ...
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/22/16
you know you can take cr vacations in the us
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
lol wtf, my wife and i spend $5k on a single weekend sometim...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
You're spending 250k a year on average? Power to you if y...
sadistic hilarious stead
  06/23/16
lol. the person arguing this must be still in college and ne...
Green hall
  06/22/16
You know that phrase "the whole is greater than the sum...
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
food doesn't double when you have double the people?
Green hall
  06/22/16
food costs certainly don't. jfc have you ever gone grocery ...
gaped laughsome faggotry death wish
  06/22/16
They probably more than double cuz you gotta take your woman...
twisted tantric pit
  06/22/16
Balling? No, they wouldn't. Step 1: Tell me about thei...
Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets
  06/23/16
I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan. Half of my ...
Talented hospital karate
  06/24/16
"I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan."...
Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets
  06/24/16
http://www.marines.com/being-a-marine/roles-in-the-corps/log...
Talented hospital karate
  06/24/16
A specialized Nurse and an Owner/Operator Truck Driver can m...
grizzly orchestra pit
  06/23/16
in MFH you're poor in Peoria you're a fucking god
supple quadroon
  06/24/16
It's actually more like 10-12%.
Soul-stirring aquamarine windowlicker resort
  06/22/16
i'm surprised that 30% of households make more than 100k
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/22/16
It's hard NOT to make 100k in a dual income home and most wo...
twisted tantric pit
  06/22/16
i've never found satisfying stats on top 10% personal or hou...
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/22/16
It varies so much by area of country
twisted tantric pit
  06/22/16
I feel like this is misleading, because a family of four wit...
gaped laughsome faggotry death wish
  06/22/16
how do you figure? the latter potentially has better benefit...
salmon nubile half-breed
  06/22/16
Stay at home moms are valued at 350k (Slate
twisted tantric pit
  06/22/16
The latter almost always has higher costs. Childcare obviou...
gaped laughsome faggotry death wish
  06/22/16
CR. I know a lot of teacher-teacher couples. Having put in s...
sadistic hilarious stead
  06/23/16
Exactly. Do you know any family that would rather have tw...
gaped laughsome faggotry death wish
  06/23/16
Echoing others' comments here, it seems almost obvious. ...
Talented hospital karate
  06/24/16
Teachers in most areas of the country start our at $20K-30K,...
180 stubborn temple
  06/24/16
according to a teacher friend of mine in san antonio, the ci...
Filthy round eye dopamine
  06/22/16
LOL no.
abusive regret
  06/22/16
Awesome, I'm "rich." That must be why I live in a ...
Naked Business Firm Masturbator
  06/22/16
Time to start paying your fair share so we can get mo money ...
twinkling arousing rehab
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sadistic hilarious stead
  06/23/16
LOL WSJ: no no no dont look at us hedge fund bros and the to...
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Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets
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180 And it's not even so much the 1%--there needs to be m...
sadistic hilarious stead
  06/23/16
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Curious property fat ankles
  06/23/16
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Chocolate thirsty goyim box office
  06/23/16
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abusive regret
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  06/24/16
This guy fucking gets it.
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  06/24/16
That's a pretty broad definition of UMC. I would have tho...
Gay den legend
  06/22/16
I'm at around 200k and I definitely don't feel UMC. I feel l...
twisted tantric pit
  06/22/16
i'd say umc is 175k to 250k household income you can have a...
Flushed Stage Weed Whacker
  06/22/16
(dood who makes 175k)
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/23/16
no way. maybe you could say that 200k take home is the lowe...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
yeah, no The official report measuring affluence in the Uni...
Flushed Stage Weed Whacker
  06/23/16
your statistics aren't accurate
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/23/16
it's from answers.com you may be right
Flushed Stage Weed Whacker
  06/23/16
average LAPD pay with benefits is over 100k. they're not the...
bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter
  06/23/16
most cops don't make anywhere near that, though
Flushed Stage Weed Whacker
  06/23/16
http://whatsmypercent.com
Titillating Site Striped Hyena
  06/23/16
they must be including children, retired people, prisoners, ...
charismatic forum
  06/23/16
maybe, i don't know probably should include everyone, thoug...
Flushed Stage Weed Whacker
  06/23/16
Ummm...percentage-wise...headline is dimbfuck
Brilliant cuck
  06/22/16
http://whatsmypercent.com
Titillating Site Striped Hyena
  06/23/16
ITT: Whites debate whether 200k or 300k is enough to raise a...
Curious property fat ankles
  06/23/16
hehe
Violent Useless Brakes Associate
  06/23/16
"income" is pretty meaningless..its more about pas...
grizzly orchestra pit
  06/23/16
This. Old guy who owns 5 houses and "earns" $80...
pink domesticated corn cake
  06/23/16
"Using Census Bureau data available through 2014, he de...
chest-beating shimmering rigor private investor
  06/24/16
God what a shit thread. Retards wildly speculating about co...
180 stubborn temple
  06/24/16
Fucking this. People that have no idea there is ample qualit...
Metal puce senate
  06/24/16


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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:03 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/21/not-just-the-1-the-upper-middle-class-is-larger-and-richer-than-ever/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759928)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:07 AM
Author: twisted tantric pit

Lol at 100k household income being UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759939)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: vigorous black wrinkle

Double median household income is UMC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760070)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:31 AM
Author: Disturbing painfully honest dingle berry center

lol, so you consider a nurse and a truck driver with 3 kids UMC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760109)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:34 AM
Author: vigorous black wrinkle

If they clear $100,000, yes, that's a great deal of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760125)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: Disturbing painfully honest dingle berry center

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760137)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: Green hall

(xo 2016)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760143)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:35 AM
Author: charismatic forum

lol you stupid fucking poor

in a two-income household you'd have to be clearing $100,000 EACH (post-tax, rent, and loan payments) to be UMC. realistically you're looking at a $400k+ combined gross income to be considered upper-middle-class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768816)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:18 AM
Author: Swashbuckling abode roommate

dood, the chart says $350k household is top 1% income threshold.

I don't think UMC and the top 1% are the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770024)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:22 AM
Author: grizzly orchestra pit

A high level nurse and owner/operator truck driver can make well over 400k/yr gross combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770046)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:47 AM
Author: impertinent galvanic area legal warrant

"clear 100K".

LOL, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768867)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: charismatic forum

ljl.

someone "clearing 100k" in are country is barely scraping by and living off of credit card debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768880)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:50 AM
Author: impertinent galvanic area legal warrant

dumbass thinks this is an article about after tax income.

JFC. How far has this site fallen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768888)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:52 AM
Author: charismatic forum

either pre- or post-tax it's not enough for an individual to live off of, let alone consider it "upper middle class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768900)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:53 AM
Author: impertinent galvanic area legal warrant

There is a steep cliff of the haves and have nots in this article.

It sound like half this country is now living in abject poverty.

So, the middle class has been squeezed to the point that there is a steep divide between the 50K family and the 100K family.

We're just fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768911)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:53 AM
Author: Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets

You can't be UMC if you can't even afford to retire at a decent age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768909)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:57 AM
Author: charismatic forum

forget retirement. at $100k you're basically piling up thousands in credit card debt every month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768927)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:58 AM
Author: Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness

Huh? Only if you're a retard. Which no doubt a lot of people are, but still...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768933)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:59 AM
Author: charismatic forum

(faggot making "soup" out of chicken skins and taking it to work in a thermos for lunch)

sorry shithead, i want to live with a decent standard of living, that doesnt make me retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768939)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness

lol you seem really angry and in debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768943)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: charismatic forum

lol you seem really poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768945)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:01 AM
Author: Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness

Don't worry things will turn around for you :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768948)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: impertinent galvanic area legal warrant

Are you kidding? That's like 6K a month cleared. Not everyone lives in NYC or CA.

You should be $1,400 all in on taxes, insurance, mortgage -- on a $300K house.

Public school is free.

WTF? You need a new Hermes scarf every day or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768947)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:02 AM
Author: sadistic hilarious stead

CR.

A six-figure salary isn't what it used to be. But you can live a very decent life on 100k, banking away cash, and not having to sweat life much.

This is assuming non-LA/NY/SF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769659)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: charismatic forum

sure, maybe you won't be starving, but $100k would barely be lower middle class, even for a single childless person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770140)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:13 AM
Author: pink domesticated corn cake

You're estimating a 30 year fixed? Otherwise your $1,400 all-in is quite low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770417)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: Metal puce senate

A nurse and truck driver making $100k a year in are country would be balling out of control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760139)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:44 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

This. Outside a few cities, 100K/yr is a shitload of $$$. That's what my dad made about the time my sister was graduating from HS, and my parents were going on vacations and booming like crazy, 3000 sq ft house, 18 acre tract, pretty new cars, etc. Restaurants whenever.

Dad is currently doing all kinds of awesome vacations like fishing in the Canadian wilderness, elk hunting in western US, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760197)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:47 AM
Author: Green hall

thats one person making 100K per year, not two people combined. do you realize you make like 800 per week after taxes when you make 50K? so in this house, the dad brings home 800 per week and the mom brings home 800 per week, then you have to pay for a mortgage plus kids? I would argue such a family is borderline poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760228)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

this subthread literally started with the phrase "100k household income" and no my mom and dad are two people combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760244)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: Green hall

so your mom didn't work? no way you had all that stuff then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760247)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:50 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

no, sahm because she is heroic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760249)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:03 AM
Author: sadistic hilarious stead

TYFT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769663)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:29 AM
Author: grizzly orchestra pit

I'll back you up friend! Your mom staying home is/was worth a fortune..no maid needed or daycare needed and many other high $ expenses saved plus you're a more normal person for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770099)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

ballin out of control on 5 grand post tax a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760248)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:51 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

what do you faggots spend your money on, only in my and my wife's most profligate months do we spend more than that and it's certainly not because we don't have the $$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760256)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:53 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

i'm giving you a hard time. guess you can make that work on vacations to south america or w/e. but not really on vacations to europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760268)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:54 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

you know you can take cr vacations in the us



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760274)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:35 AM
Author: charismatic forum

lol wtf, my wife and i spend $5k on a single weekend sometimes. but more commonly it'll be $5k over a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768821)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:05 AM
Author: sadistic hilarious stead

You're spending 250k a year on average?

Power to you if you can afford that. But that explains why you can't comprehend a family living well on 5k/month post tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769669)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:53 AM
Author: Green hall

lol. the person arguing this must be still in college and never lived in the real world. lol at an 800 a week per person income being a lot. thats like the minimum to survive. when I first got out of college and was making that much, I couldn't even afford to live on my own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760265)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:56 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

You know that phrase "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts"? mortgage and food and shit don't double when you double the people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760292)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:57 AM
Author: Green hall

food doesn't double when you have double the people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760301)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:03 AM
Author: gaped laughsome faggotry death wish

food costs certainly don't. jfc have you ever gone grocery shopping?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760330)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: twisted tantric pit

They probably more than double cuz you gotta take your woman out all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760491)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:54 AM
Author: Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets

Balling?

No, they wouldn't.

Step 1: Tell me about their retirement plan.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768916)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:39 PM
Author: Talented hospital karate

I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan. Half of my salary* for life.

*salary for retirement purposes is the average of the highest-earning three years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786387)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:48 PM
Author: Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets

"I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan."

Yes, some people win the lottery.

Now let's get back to those nurses and truck drivers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786448)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:53 PM
Author: Talented hospital karate

http://www.marines.com/being-a-marine/roles-in-the-corps/logistics-combat-element/motor-transport

http://explorehealthcareers.org/en/Career/80/Nurse_Anesthetist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786476)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:20 AM
Author: grizzly orchestra pit

A specialized Nurse and an Owner/Operator Truck Driver can make YUGE $

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770035)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:17 PM
Author: supple quadroon

in MFH you're poor

in Peoria you're a fucking god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782298)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:09 AM
Author: Soul-stirring aquamarine windowlicker resort

It's actually more like 10-12%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759958)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:11 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

i'm surprised that 30% of households make more than 100k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759972)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:13 AM
Author: twisted tantric pit

It's hard NOT to make 100k in a dual income home and most women work now. Lol at calling a teacher couple making 120k combined UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759982)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:15 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

i've never found satisfying stats on top 10% personal or household income. i don't think it's all that high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759996)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:16 AM
Author: twisted tantric pit

It varies so much by area of country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760001)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:21 AM
Author: gaped laughsome faggotry death wish

I feel like this is misleading, because a family of four with one parent making $120k is richer than one with two parents each making $60k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760030)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: salmon nubile half-breed

how do you figure? the latter potentially has better benefits, and taxes would be similar. not to mention the level of stability is higher when you have two people making 60k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760054)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: twisted tantric pit

Stay at home moms are valued at 350k (Slate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760067)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:33 AM
Author: gaped laughsome faggotry death wish

The latter almost always has higher costs. Childcare obviously, but also they end up paying a lot more for conveniences.

There's also value to having a parent spend more time with the kids.

Finally, you have two parents each putting in full work weeks for $120k in the latter case, whereas in the former, you have a lot of excess capacity on the part of one spouse to get other things done, and if the non-working spouse decides to work, you will have even higher income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760122)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: sadistic hilarious stead

CR. I know a lot of teacher-teacher couples. Having put in some years with their respective school districts, their combined income is probably approaching 100k, but they're poor as F. Mainly because they have the childcare haircut.

Additionally, their lives kinda suck because they spend about 1 quality hour a day together as a family.

Totally different situation if you have a breadwinner and a caregiver, where the breadwinner makes 100k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769678)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:02 AM
Author: gaped laughsome faggotry death wish

Exactly.

Do you know any family that would rather have two working parents each making $200k, as opposed to one working parent making $400k? I sure don't. Division of labor, baby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769938)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:52 PM
Author: Talented hospital karate

Echoing others' comments here, it seems almost obvious.

For one thing, strongly disagree that the latter has better benefits. Benefits packages typically include families, and a position paying $120k/yr is more than twice as likely to provide generous benefits than a position paying $60k/yr.

Stability might be higher if someone loses their job. But if someone loses their job, then we're no longer comparing $120k to $120k. We're comparing $40k to $80k (assuming an unemployment payment of 1/3 pay).

The value of housework and logistics is not negligible. Daycare, meal prep, cleaning, etc. all have significant monetary value. Maid service averages $157 nationally. Do that once per week and you're talking about $8,000 a year. Childcare averages $11,666 per year in the U.S. That's already a $20,000 tax-free advantage of $120k over $60k+$60k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786467)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: 180 stubborn temple

Teachers in most areas of the country start our at $20K-30K, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782220)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:46 AM
Author: Filthy round eye dopamine

according to a teacher friend of mine in san antonio, the city just voted to make STARTING SALARY for a public school teacher there something like 52K/yr

base starting salary in dallas is 50K/yr https://thehub.dallasisd.org/2015/04/20/salary-range-for-dallas-isd-teachers-increases-to-50000-90000/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760215)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:17 AM
Author: abusive regret

LOL no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760002)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:18 AM
Author: Naked Business Firm Masturbator

Awesome, I'm "rich." That must be why I live in a 400 square foot apartment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760008)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: twinkling arousing rehab

Time to start paying your fair share so we can get mo money for dem programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760075)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: sadistic hilarious stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769680)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:19 AM
Author: Idiotic razzmatazz cruise ship

LOL WSJ: no no no dont look at us hedge fund bros and the top 1% of MFH and the few billionaires owning more than like 30% of the USA or whatever, you REALLY need to look at those damn teacher/plumber families that scrape together 100K, fuck them, UMC v middle class is the REAL WAR!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760016)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:20 AM
Author: henna roast beef kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760024)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:32 AM
Author: Crimson Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760117)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:18 AM
Author: Free-loading fragrant public bath twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768743)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:20 AM
Author: self-centered school macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768755)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:57 AM
Author: Indigo mind-boggling jap nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768930)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: Sexy Haunting Church Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769679)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:10 AM
Author: sadistic hilarious stead

180

And it's not even so much the 1%--there needs to be more emphasis on the .1%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769682)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Curious property fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769696)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:22 AM
Author: Chocolate thirsty goyim box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769742)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:48 AM
Author: Territorial multi-colored giraffe skinny woman

Correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30781718)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:49 AM
Author: abusive regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30781722)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: umber newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782138)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: Wine generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782141)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:05 PM
Author: Orchid Adventurous Library Mental Disorder

This guy fucking gets it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782230)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: fluffy bawdyhouse antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782264)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: Gay den legend

That's a pretty broad definition of UMC.

I would have thought it was more like $200k household income minimum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760053)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:27 AM
Author: twisted tantric pit

I'm at around 200k and I definitely don't feel UMC. I feel like UMC is more 300-350k beginning range....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760083)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:31 AM
Author: Flushed Stage Weed Whacker

i'd say umc is 175k to 250k household income

you can have a family, take vacations, save for retirement, and not worry about the cost of any staples

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760478)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:11 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

(dood who makes 175k)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768711)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: charismatic forum

no way. maybe you could say that 200k take home is the lowest rung of UMC (so you're clearing ~400k gross before taxes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768810)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:45 AM
Author: Flushed Stage Weed Whacker

yeah, no

The official report measuring affluence in the United States states that appox. 1% of individuals in the country make $100,000 a year before taxes. .05% make $250,000 or more and .01% make $400,000 or more before taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768864)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:48 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

your statistics aren't accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768872)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: Flushed Stage Weed Whacker

it's from answers.com

you may be right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768885)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:51 AM
Author: bisexual hairraiser faggot firefighter

average LAPD pay with benefits is over 100k. they're not the 1%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768897)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:14 AM
Author: Flushed Stage Weed Whacker

most cops don't make anywhere near that, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768993)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:11 AM
Author: Titillating Site Striped Hyena

http://whatsmypercent.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769688)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:48 AM
Author: charismatic forum

they must be including children, retired people, prisoners, and the mentally defective in those figures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768874)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:51 AM
Author: Flushed Stage Weed Whacker

maybe, i don't know

probably should include everyone, though, don't you think? i guess it depends if the op included them or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768898)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:28 AM
Author: Brilliant cuck

Ummm...percentage-wise...headline is dimbfuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760093)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Titillating Site Striped Hyena

http://whatsmypercent.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769694)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Curious property fat ankles

ITT: Whites debate whether 200k or 300k is enough to raise a family while Latino raise three kids on 50k combined income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769695)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:00 AM
Author: Violent Useless Brakes Associate

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769928)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:38 AM
Author: grizzly orchestra pit

"income" is pretty meaningless..its more about passive income stream and net worth..not what you make at some jew fraud $cam job/career

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770160)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:18 AM
Author: pink domesticated corn cake

This.

Old guy who owns 5 houses and "earns" $80k a year is worth a lot more than the biglaw senior associate with $300k income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770447)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: chest-beating shimmering rigor private investor

"Using Census Bureau data available through 2014, he defines the upper middle class as any household earning $100,000 to $350,000 for a family of three: at least double the U.S. median household income and about five times the poverty level."

Depending on COL, this sounds about right. $100k is downright poverty-line in NYC for a household (though not necessarily for your average singleton living with roommates in Murray Hill), but a family in Kansas City could do well off of that.

I actually think a lot of these people in the $100k-$350k range are in a precarious spot and I don't necessarily agree with the WSJ's conclusion that it's the UMC folks vs. everyone else. There are more UMC-paying jobs, but shit costs more and certain cities are getting much more expensive (and those are the cities with the highest growth rate in UMC jobs, likely).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782258)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: 180 stubborn temple

God what a shit thread. Retards wildly speculating about cost of living differences they don't understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782265)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:57 PM
Author: Metal puce senate

Fucking this. People that have no idea there is ample quality housing available for <$200k in a significant portion of the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786517)