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NYT: Trump's speech - what you missed & our fact checks

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lol at this FACT CHECK: • Mr. Trump said that Mrs. Clinto...
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Accurate fact check, obviously.
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So just a large portion of her life, and basically all of he...
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WTF is this? Mr. Trump argues that she also made money f...
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Multiple sources, including first-hand witnesses whom the NY...
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Trump needs "clear, convincing proof" when he make...
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*trump provides clear and convincing proof* Fact checker:...
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LOL at these tiny bullshit countries they have to find. Obv...
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let's just disregard sales tax, local income tax, etc
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it's blatantly not true though. i'm sorry your candidate is ...
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Pretty sure the total amount of tax collected in the US dwar...
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Why in the world would "total amount of tax" be th...
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These lists conveniently leave out medical expenses and insu...
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their "fact checks" are mostly just their opinions...
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.....example?
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http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&mc=1...
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Doesn't really seem like an opinion. Her early career was cl...
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"Mr. Trump argues that she also made money for big dono...
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That's because the proof was deleted with that first batch o...
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Okay, what's the clear and convincing proof he's offered?
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(misses the point)
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Sounds like it's a FACT he's failed to offer anything that i...
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nice opinion, er fact check
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So trump HAS offered proof? What's his proof?
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Why are you doubling down on your idiocy here? Why do you t...
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Because he's portraying his claim as a fact when it's not es...
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The job of the "fact checker" is to check whether ...
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They didn't say it was true or untrue, they said proof hadn'...
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Well, I think it's a fact whether any proof had been provide...
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So it's the "clear and convincing" point that both...
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There are a number of things that bother me in the piece, bu...
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They rated the statement that she's been cashing in on speci...
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Interestingly, in the Clinton example you provided, they not...
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NY Times is shit for the most part. Some of the NYC pieces a...
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Trump discussed the Motorola example, which the NYT ignored....
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When did Trump bring up "the Motorola example?" I ...
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he didn't mention them by name, but the part about a US comp...
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Interesting. I googled but couldn't find much on this. Do yo...
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it's in the book "Clinton Cash," which Trump also ...
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ESL, actually
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• Turning to trade, Mr. Trump said that Mrs. Clinton support...
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• Turning to trade, Mr. Trump said that Mrs. Clinton support...
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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:41 PM
Author: Abusive place of business garrison

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transcript: Donald Trump NYC speech on stakes of the election

06/22/16 10:50 AM EDT

Remarks as prepared for delivery.

Today I‘d like to share my thoughts about the stakes in this election.

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People have asked me why I am running for President.

I have built an amazing business that I love and I get to work side-by-side with my children every day.

We come to work together and turn visions into reality.

We think big, and then we make it happen.

I love what I do, and I am grateful beyond words to the nation that has allowed me to do it.

So when people ask me why I am running, I quickly answer: I am running to give back to this country which has been so good to me.

When I see the crumbling roads and bridges, or the dilapidated airports, or the factories moving overseas to Mexico, or to other countries, I know these problems can all be fixed, but not by Hillary Clinton – only by me.

The fact is, we can come back bigger and better and stronger than ever before --Jobs, jobs, jobs!

Everywhere I look, I see the possibilities of what our country could be. But we can’t solve any of these problems by relying on the politicians who created them.

We will never be able to fix a rigged system by counting on the same people who rigged it in the first place.

The insiders wrote the rules of the game to keep themselves in power and in the money.

That’s why we’re asking Bernie Sanders’ voters to join our movement: so together we can fix the system for ALL Americans. Importantly, this includes fixing all of our many disastrous trade deals.

Because it’s not just the political system that’s rigged. It’s the whole economy.

It’s rigged by big donors who want to keep down wages.

It’s rigged by big businesses who want to leave our country, fire our workers, and sell their products back into the U.S. with absolutely no consequences for them.

It’s rigged by bureaucrats who are trapping kids in failing schools.

It’s rigged against you, the American people.

Hillary Clinton who, as most people know, is a world class liar –

just look at her pathetic email and server statements, or her phony landing in Bosnia where she said she was under attack but the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total self-serving lie.

Brian Williams’ career was destroyed for saying far less.

Yesterday, she even tried to attack me and my many businesses. But here is the bottom line: I started off in Brooklyn New York, not so long ago, with a small loan and built a business worth over 10 billion dollars. I have always had a talent for building businesses and, importantly, creating jobs. That is a talent our country desperately needs.

I am running for President to end the unfairness and to put you, the American worker, first.

We are going to put America First, and we are going to Make America Great again.

This election will decide whether we are ruled by the people, or by the politicians.

Here is my promise to the American voter:

If I am elected President, I will end the special interest monopoly in Washington, D.C.

The other candidate in this race has spent her entire life making money for special interests – and taking money from special interests.

Hillary Clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and theft.

She ran the State Department like her own personal hedge fund – doing favors for oppressive regimes, and many others, in exchange for cash.

Then, when she left, she made $21.6 million giving speeches to Wall Street banks and other special interests – in less than 2 years – secret speeches that she does not want to reveal to the public.

Together, she and Bill made $153 million giving speeches to lobbyists, CEOs, and foreign governments in the years since 2001.

They totally own her, and that will never change.

The choice in this election is a choice between taking our government back from the special interests, or surrendering our last scrap of independence to their total and complete control.

Those are the stakes.

Hillary Clinton wants to be President. But she doesn't have the temperament, or, as Bernie Sanders' said, the judgement, to be president.

She believes she is entitled to the office.

Her campaign slogan is “I’m with her.”

You know what my response to that is? I’m with you: the American people.

She thinks it’s all about her.

I know it’s all about you – I know it’s all about making America Great Again for All Americans.

Our country lost its way when we stopped putting the American people first.

We got here because we switched from a policy of Americanism – focusing on what’s good for America’s middle class – to a policy of globalism, focusing on how to make money for large corporations who can move their wealth and workers to foreign countries all to the detriment of the American worker and the American economy.

We reward companies for offshoring, and we punish companies for doing business in America and keeping our workers employed.

This is not a rising tide that lifts all boats.

This is a wave of globalization that wipes out our middle class and our jobs.

We need to reform our economic system so that, once again, we can all succeed together, and America can become rich again.

That’s what we mean by America First.

Our country will be better off when we start making our own products again, bringing our once great manufacturing capabilities back to our shores.

Our Founders understood this.

One of the first major bills signed by George Washington called for “the encouragement and protection of manufactur[ing]” in America.

Our first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, warned us by saying:

“The abandonment of the protective policy by the American government will produce want and ruin among our people.”

I have visited the cities and towns across America and seen the devastation caused by the trade policies of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton supported Bill Clinton’s disastrous NAFTA, just like she supported China’s entrance into the World Trade Organization.

We’ve lost nearly one-third of our manufacturing jobs since these two Hillary-backed agreements were signed.

Our trade deficit with China soared 40% during Hillary Clinton’s time as Secretary of State -- a disgraceful performance for which she should not be congratulated, but rather scorned.

Then she let China steal hundreds of billions of dollars in our intellectual property – a crime which is continuing to this day.

Hillary Clinton gave China millions of our best jobs, and effectively let China completely rebuild itself.

In return, Hillary Clinton got rich!

The book Clinton Cash, by Peter Schweitzer, documents how Bill and Hillary used the State Department to enrich their family at America’s expense.

She gets rich making you poor.

Here is a quote from the book: “At the center of US policy toward China was Hillary Clinton…at this critical time for US-china relations, Bill Clinton gave a number of speeches that were underwritten by the Chinese government and its supporters.”

These funds were paid to the Clinton bank account while Hillary was negotiating with China on behalf of the United States.

She sold out our workers, and our country, for Beijing.

Hillary Clinton has also been the biggest promoter of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which will ship millions more of our jobs overseas – and give up Congressional power to an international foreign commission.

Now, because I have pointed out why it would be such a disastrous deal, she is pretending that she is against it. She has even deleted this record of total support from her book – deletion is something she is very good at -- (at least 30,000 emails are missing.)

But this latest Clinton cover-up doesn’t change anything: if she is elected president, she will adopt the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and we will lose millions of jobs and our economic independence for good. She will do this, just as she has betrayed the American worker on trade at every single stage of her career – and it will be even worse than the Clintons’ NAFTA deal.

I want trade deals, but they have to be great for the United States and our workers.

We don't make great deals anymore, but we will once I become president.

It’s not just our economy that’s been corrupted, but our foreign policy too.

The Hillary Clinton foreign policy has cost America thousands of lives and trillions of dollars – and unleashed ISIS across the world.

No Secretary of State has been more wrong, more often, and in more places than Hillary Clinton.

Her decisions spread death, destruction and terrorism everywhere she touched.

Among the victims is our late Ambassador, Chris Stevens. He was left helpless to die as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed -- that's right, when the phone rang at

3 o'clock in the morning, she was sleeping.

Ambassador Stevens and his staff in Libya made hundreds of requests for security.

Hillary Clinton’s State Department refused them all.

She started the war that put him in Libya, denied him the security he asked for, then left him there to die.

To cover her tracks, Hillary lied about a video being the cause of his death.

Here is what one of the victim’s mothers had to say:

“I want the whole world to know it: she lied to my face, and you don’t want this person to be president.”

In 2009, before Hillary Clinton was sworn in, it was a different world.

Libya was cooperating.

Iraq was seeing a reduction in violence.

Syria was under control.

Iran was being choked by sanctions.

Egypt was governed by a friendly regime that honored its peace treaty with Israel.

ISIS wasn’t even on the map.

Fast forward to 2013: In just four years, Secretary Clinton managed

to almost single-handedly destabilize the entire Middle East.

Her invasion of Libya handed the country over to the ISIS barbarians.

Thanks to Hillary Clinton, Iran is now the dominant Islamic power in the Middle East, and on the road to nuclear weapons.

Hillary Clinton’s support for violent regime change in Syria has thrown the country into one of the bloodiest civil wars anyone has ever seen – while giving ISIS a launching pad for terrorism against the West.

She helped force out a friendly regime in Egypt and replace it with the radical Muslim Brotherhood. The Egyptian military has retaken control, but Clinton has opened the Pandora’s box of radical Islam.

Then, there was the disastrous strategy of announcing our departure date from Iraq, handing large parts of the country over to ISIS killers.

ISIS threatens us today because of the decisions Hillary Clinton has made.

ISIS also threatens peaceful Muslims across the Middle East, and peaceful Muslims across the world, who have been terribly victimized by horrible brutality – and who only want to raise their kids in peace and safety.

In short, Hillary Clinton’s tryout for the presidency has produced one deadly foreign policy disaster after another.

It all started with her bad judgment in supporting the War in Iraq in the first place.

Though I was not in government service, I was among the earliest to criticize

the rush to war, and yes, even before the war ever started.

But Hillary Clinton learned nothing from Iraq, because when she got into power,

she couldn’t wait to rush us off to war in Libya.

She lacks the temperament, the judgment and the competence to lead.

In the words of a Secret Service agent posted outside the Oval Office:

“She simply lacks the integrity and temperament to serve

in the office…from the bottom of my soul, I know this to be true…Her leadership style – volcanic, impulsive…disdainful of the rules set for everyone else – hasn’t changed a bit.”

Perhaps the most terrifying thing about Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy is that she refuses to acknowledge the threat posed by Radical Islam.

In fact, Hillary Clinton supports a radical 550% increase in Syrian refugees coming into the United States, and that's an increase over President Obama's already very high number.

Under her plan, we would admit hundreds of thousands of refugees from the most dangerous countries on Earth – with no way to screen who they are or what they believe.

Already, hundreds of recent immigrants and their children have been convicted of terrorist activity inside the U.S.

The father of the Orlando shooter was a Taliban supporter from Afghanistan, one of the

most repressive anti-gay and anti-women regimes on Earth.

I only want to admit people who share our values and love our people.

Hillary Clinton wants to bring in people who believe women should be enslaved

and gays put to death.

Maybe her motivation lies among the more than 1,000 foreign donations Hillary failed to disclose while at the State Department.

Hillary Clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency.

Here is some more of what we learned from the book,

Clinton Cash:

A foreign telecom giant faced possible State Department sanctions for providing technology to Iran, and other oppressive regimes. So what did this company do? For the first time ever, they decided to pay Bill Clinton $750,000 for a single speech. The Clintons got their cash, the telecom company escaped sanctions.

Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while 9 investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary Clinton appointed a top donor to a national security board with top secret access – even though he had no national security credentials.

Hillary Clinton accepted $58,000 in jewelry from the government of Brunei when she was Secretary of State – plus millions more for her foundation. The Sultan of Brunei has pushed oppressive Sharia law, including the punishment of death by stoning for being gay. The government of Brunei also stands to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of Hillary’s Trans-Pacific Partnership, which she would absolutely approve if given the chance.

Hillary Clinton took up to $25 million from Saudi Arabia, where being gay is also punishable by death.

Hillary took millions from Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and many other countries that horribly abuse women and LGBT citizens.

To cover-up her corrupt dealings, Hillary Clinton illegally stashed her State Department emails on a private server.

Her server was easily hacked by foreign governments – perhaps even by her financial backers in Communist China – putting all of America in danger.

Then there are the 33,000 emails she deleted.

While we may not know what is in those deleted emails, our enemies probably do.

So they probably now have a blackmail file over someone who wants to be President of the United States.

This fact alone disqualifies her from the Presidency.

We can’t hand over our government to someone whose deepest, darkest secrets may be in the hands of our enemies.

National security is also immigration security –

and Hillary wants neither.

Hillary Clinton has put forward the most radical immigration platform in the history of the United States.

She has pledged to grant mass amnesty and in her first 100 days, end virtually all immigration enforcement, and thus create totally open borders in the United States

The first victims of her radical policies will be poor African-American and Hispanic workers who need jobs. They are the ones she will hurt the most.

Let me share with you a letter our campaign received from Mary Ann Mendoza.

She lost her amazing son, Police Sergeant Brandon Mendoza, after he was killed by an illegal immigrant because of the open borders policies supported by Hillary Clinton.

Sadly, the Mendoza family is just one of thousands who have suffered the same fate.

Here is an excerpt from Mrs. Mendoza’s letter:

“Hillary Clinton, who already has the blood of so many on her hands, is now announcing that she is willing to put each and every one of our lives in harms’ way – an open door policy to criminals and terrorists to enter our country. Hillary is not concerned about you or I, she is only concerned about the power the presidency would bring to her. She needs to go to prison to pay for the crimes she has already committed against this country.”

Hillary also wants to spend hundreds of billions to resettle Middle Eastern refugees in the United States, on top of the current record level of immigration.

For the amount of money Hillary Clinton would like to spend on refugees, we could rebuild every inner city in America.

Hillary’s Wall Street immigration agenda will keep immigrant communities poor, and unemployed Americans out of work. She can’t claim to care about African-American and Hispanic workers when she wants to bring in millions of new low-wage workers

to compete against them.

Here are a few things a Trump Administration will do for America in the first 100 days:

Appoint judges who will uphold the Constitution. Hillary Clinton’s radical judges will virtually abolish the 2nd amendment.

Change immigration rules to give unemployed Americans an opportunity to fill good-paying jobs

Stand up to countries that cheat on trade, of which there are many

Cancel rules and regulations that send jobs overseas

Lift restrictions on energy production

Repeal and replace job-killing Obamacare -- it is a disaster.

Pass massive tax reform to create millions of new jobs.

Impose tough new ethics rules to restore dignity to the Office of Secretary of State.

There is one common theme in all of these reforms.

It’s going to be America First.

This is why the stakes in November are so great.

On election day, the politicians stand trial before the people.

The voters are the jury. Their ballots are the verdict. We don’t need or want another Clinton or Obama.

Come November, the American people will have a chance to issue a verdict on the politicians that have sacrificed their security, betrayed their prosperity, and sold out

their country.

They will have a chance to vote for a new agenda with big dreams, bold ideas and enormous possibilities for the American people.

Hillary Clinton’s message is old and tired. Her message is that can’t change.

My message is that things have to change – and this is our one chance do it. This is our last chance to do it.

Americans are the people that tamed the West, that dug out the Panama Canal, that sent satellites across the solar system, that built the great dams, and so much more.

Then we started thinking small.

We stopped believing in what America could do, and became reliant on other countries, other people, and other institutions.

We lost our sense of purpose, and daring.

But that’s not who we are.

Come this November, we can bring America back – bigger and better, and stronger than ever.

We will build the greatest infrastructure on the planet earth – the roads and railways and airports of tomorrow.

Our military will have the best technology and finest equipment – we will bring it back all the way.

Massive new factories will come roaring into our country – breathing life and hope into our communities.

Inner cities, which have been horribly abused by Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party, will finally be rebuilt.

Construction is what I know -- nobody knows it better.

The real wages for our workers have not been raised for 18 years -- but these wages will start going up, along with the new jobs. Hillary’s massive taxation, regulation and open borders will destroy jobs and drive down wages for everyone.

We are also going to be supporting our police and law enforcement -- we can never forget the great job they do.

I am also going to appoint great Supreme Court Justices.

Our country is going to start working again.

People are going to start working again.

Parents are going to start dreaming big for their children again – including parents in our inner cities.

Americans are going to start believing in the future or our country.

We are going to make America rich again.

We are going to make America safe again.

We are going to make America Great Again – and Great Again For EVERYONE.

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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:43 PM
Author: contagious pink generalized bond

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762751)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: beta disrespectful parlor

Yes, he did. which is presidential and professional.

Its his thoughts and his agenda. I dont think anyone can disagree with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762778)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:42 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

I loved the fact check they did on Hillary's speech yesterday

oh wait.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762747)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:44 PM
Author: Vibrant Amethyst Jewess

WHAT MEDIA BIAS??????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762760)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: beta disrespectful parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762771)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:09 PM
Author: laughsome shivering prole ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763010)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 8:36 PM
Author: Yellow pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766403)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

glad ALAN RAPPEPORT, AMY CHOZICK, and DAVID E. SANGER weighed in on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762779)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:02 PM
Author: fantasy-prone bipolar background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762939)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: contagious pink generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762944)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:09 PM
Author: laughsome shivering prole ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763013)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:29 PM
Author: rose very tactful center trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763169)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:06 PM
Author: Garnet Passionate Crackhouse Twinkling Uncleanness

((( )))

You forgot these

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763379)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:14 PM
Author: outnumbered charismatic lettuce

every single fucking time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764946)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 9:09 PM
Author: cheese-eating vivacious therapy house

without fail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766604)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 11:18 PM
Author: Abusive place of business garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30767853)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: fantasy-prone bipolar background story

lol at this FACT CHECK:

• Mr. Trump said that Mrs. Clinton “has spent her entire life making money for special interests — and I will tell you, she has made plenty of money for them, and she has been taking plenty of money out for herself.”

Fact Check: This assertion is mostly false. Early in her career, Mrs. Clinton worked for the Children’s Defense Fund and as a lawyer for the House impeachment inquiry against President Richard Nixon, and later worked at the private Rose Law Firm in Arkansas, focusing on intellectual property and other cases. Much of her career has been devoted to government service, as first lady, United States senator and secretary of state. But Mrs. Clinton did receive millions of dollars in paid speeches to banks and others and has served on the boards of corporations like Walmart. Mr. Trump argues that she also made money for big donors through her activities at the State Department and her family foundation, but he has not offered clear, convincing proof.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762948)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:06 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

Accurate fact check, obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762971)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:18 PM
Author: motley olive stage

So just a large portion of her life, and basically all of her money is from speeches to banks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763090)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:31 PM
Author: stubborn indian lodge new version

WTF is this?

Mr. Trump argues that she also made money for big donors through her activities at the State Department and her family foundation, but he has not offered clear, convincing proof.

Fact check the money she made from speeches during that time... Nope, instead the NYT won't confirm the truth because Trump did not provide a bibliography page in proper form.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763177)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:32 PM
Author: Exciting Obsidian Gay Wizard

It's really obnoxious what they've turned "fact checking" into.

- We give this 4 pants on fire points. Entire life? She spent the first 2 years of her life not even able to speak, how could she be making money for special interests?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763186)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 6:22 PM
Author: Crusty Hospital Newt

Multiple sources, including first-hand witnesses whom the NYT contacted, have confirmed that Sec. Clinton indeed spent little to no part of her infancy and toddlerhood working for special interests. Pants-on-Fire-Meter: (4 flame emojis)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765492)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:09 PM
Author: contagious pink generalized bond

These people are so ludicrous it's disgusting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763392)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:15 PM
Author: outnumbered charismatic lettuce

Trump needs "clear, convincing proof" when he makes a speech, but journalists don't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764954)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: Splenetic Aromatic Wrinkle Abode

*trump provides clear and convincing proof*

Fact checker: "The 'proof' provided by Trump is not properly authenticated and does not fall within a hearsay exception, so we have not considered it in our FOUR PANTS ON FIRE rating"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766078)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:05 PM
Author: fantasy-prone bipolar background story

LOL at these tiny bullshit countries they have to find. Obviously TRUMP was talking about REAL NATIONS, not Luxembourg.

• At one point, Mr. Trump said that the United States is “the highest taxed nation in the world.”

Fact Check: This is inaccurate, according to several organizations that have examined the claim. A thorough check by PolitiFact found about 30 countries that have higher tax rate structures than the United States, including Denmark, Luxembourg and Belgium. That has not stopped Mr. Trump from making this claim repeatedly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762965)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Stirring navy toaster

let's just disregard sales tax, local income tax, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30762989)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

it's blatantly not true though. i'm sorry your candidate is too stupid to comprehend basic facts or is just a liar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763029)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: fantasy-prone bipolar background story

Pretty sure the total amount of tax collected in the US dwarfs that of any other country, making us the highest-taxed nation. A few tiny countries may have higher individual tax brackets I guess, but apparently Denmark is the largest, LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763037)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:08 PM
Author: self-absorbed cruise ship useless brakes

Why in the world would "total amount of tax" be the right metric? Clearly, percentage of GDP is a better one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764880)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: Rusted Concupiscible Regret Cuckold

These lists conveniently leave out medical expenses and insurance premiums paid by US citizens, which are included under "taxes" for the other countries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763114)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

their "fact checks" are mostly just their opinions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763021)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

.....example?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763032)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&mc=19&forum_id=2#30762948

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763042)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:19 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

Doesn't really seem like an opinion. Her early career was clearly not "making money for special interests" in the sense that Trump means it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763099)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:22 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

"Mr. Trump argues that she also made money for big donors through her activities at the State Department and her family foundation, but he has not offered clear, convincing proof."

this is an entirely subjective statement

their opinion is that he hasn't offered clear and convincing proof (without even discussing the proof he has offered)

NYT is a shitlib hack operation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763119)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:30 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Aggressive Lodge

That's because the proof was deleted with that first batch of 30k emails.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763173)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

Okay, what's the clear and convincing proof he's offered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763321)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:58 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

(misses the point)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763339)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:01 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

Sounds like it's a FACT he's failed to offer anything that is even arguably clear and convincing proof.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763352)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:04 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

nice opinion, er fact check

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763370)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:09 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

So trump HAS offered proof? What's his proof?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763393)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:12 PM
Author: bateful buff dragon

Why are you doubling down on your idiocy here? Why do you think offering clear and convincing proof is relevant to a fact check on the underlying claim?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763414)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:15 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

Because he's portraying his claim as a fact when it's not established as a fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763431)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: bateful buff dragon

The job of the "fact checker" is to check whether a claim is true or not, not to check whether the proponent of the claim has provided clear, convincing proof. Has Hillary provided clear, convincing proof that the claim is false? Huh, no word on that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764822)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

They didn't say it was true or untrue, they said proof hadn't been provided. That's a fact, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764982)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:29 PM
Author: bateful buff dragon

Well, I think it's a fact whether any proof had been provided, and a matter of opinion whether that proof meets a clear and convincing standard.

But that is entirely beside the point (and I'm wondering if you really don't see the point or are just deflecting).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765081)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:32 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

So it's the "clear and convincing" point that bothers you? It might bother me if there was arguable proof of a quid pro quo, but there isn't so in this context it doesn't bother me at all. There's nothing subject about that statement. Every objective observer would agree that "clear and convincing proof" has indeed not been provided.

It's also worth pointing out that the NYT has done the same thing to Clinton (i.e., pointing out that a claim she's made has no proof behind it).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765106)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:35 PM
Author: bateful buff dragon

There are a number of things that bother me in the piece, but you seemed to be focusing on whether Trump provided clear and convincing proof of a claim.

The first part is that it's fucking crazy for the reporter, whose job it is to check the veracity of the claim, to say that something is false unless (a) someone else provides the proof, and (b) that proof meets a clear an convincing standard.

Since, on this particular point, neither candidate has presented clear and convincing proof for or against the claim (in my opinion), it is irresponsible to say that it is false based on only one party's failure to provide "clear and convincing" proof.

If you can point out similar treatment of Hillary's claims against Trump by the NYT I'd certainly be interested in seeing it.

Edit: the clear and convincing bit was in support of their "mostly false" assessment of his claim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765131)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:41 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

They rated the statement that she's been cashing in on special interests her whole life as "mostly false". They never said the State Department allegations themselves are false (they just pointed out - accurately - that no solid proof has been offered on this front). Do you disagree and feel that clear, convincing proof has been offered? If so, what is this proof?

If they had said this specific allegation is false, then I'd agree with you. But they didn't.

"Mrs. Clinton said Donald J. Trump “is becoming ISIS’ best recruiter. They are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.”

No proof."

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/fact-check.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765185)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:47 PM
Author: bateful buff dragon

Interestingly, in the Clinton example you provided, they not that it's possible the claim is true, but there wasn't any proof. Not exactly apples to apples, but I take your point that they will apply a "no proof" standard to evaluating a claim, as opposed to an "is it true or false" standard that puts the onus on them to figure out the truth or falsity.

That makes me think they suck, but does not support the bias claims as much.

Edit: Really, when you look at the Clinton example you cited, they spend the entire paragraph explaining how the claim could be plausible. Contrast that with the Trump example originating this sub-thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765233)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:50 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

NY Times is shit for the most part. Some of the NYC pieces are pretty good though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765263)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:36 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

Trump discussed the Motorola example, which the NYT ignored. Instead the NYT made a statement of political opinion that Trump hadn't "offered clear and convincing proof," whatever the fuck that means. This is not a fucking "fact check"--it's just the NYT going all in for Hillary Clinton. Jesus Christ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765138)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:43 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

When did Trump bring up "the Motorola example?" I don't see it in the transcript of his speech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765203)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:46 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

he didn't mention them by name, but the part about a US company paying Bill Clinton $750k for a speech in order to get out of state dept sanctions for dealing with Iran. That company was Motorola, from what I understand. Hillary reduced/waived the state dept sanctions after they paid her husband for the speech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765224)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:51 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

Interesting. I googled but couldn't find much on this. Do you have a source I could read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765268)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

it's in the book "Clinton Cash," which Trump also cited in the speech

I can't find a link, but Stephen Miller's been talking about it on TV and at rallies for a while. He's Trump's senior policy advisor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765359)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:11 PM
Author: bateful buff dragon

you seem dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763406)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 8:40 PM
Author: Yellow pocket flask

ESL, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766439)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:09 PM
Author: contagious pink generalized bond

All of it you stupid fucking hick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763396)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:16 PM
Author: Ungodly locale

I wish you weren't so angry, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763435)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: At-the-ready Round Eye Half-breed

It's pretty clear that no one is going to give him another inch or let up until November. He should just throw in the towel and go back to selling steak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763028)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:29 PM
Author: galvanic infuriating boistinker famous landscape painting

Every attempt at defending her from these attacks will make her look even worse. Hillary has a shot at winning if she can seal herself in a sensory deprivation chamber until after the election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763167)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: Ruby bbw

• Turning to trade, Mr. Trump said that Mrs. Clinton supported the North American Free Trade Agreement and cited China’s entrance into the World Trade Organization as evidence that his opponent will support deals that harm American workers. He also said that her record as secretary of state should be scorned because America’s trade deficit with China soared under her tenure.

Fact Check: As first lady, Mrs. Clinton privately expressed skepticism about Nafta, the trade pact that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993, though she made statements supportive of it. The trade pact has been widely blamed for the loss of American manufacturing jobs. Mrs. Clinton has called for parts of Nafta to be renegotiated and has said that the Trans-Pacific Partnership, President Obama’s 12-nation pact that she supported while serving as secretary of state, doesn’t meet her “high bar” on protecting American workers and the environment.

ROFL so basically she says whatever is most convenient based on her audience and public opinion. She publicly supported NAFTA knowing it was terrible, and supported TPP also knowing it is severely flawed. OH WHAT JUDGEMENT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763034)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:17 PM
Author: unholy overrated police squad

but she privately expressed skepticism!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763081)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:18 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

oh what an objective fact check!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763087)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:31 PM
Author: laughsome shivering prole ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763181)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:22 PM
Author: Ruby bbw

I like that they think that's better than just being naive about the effects of the deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763124)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:46 PM
Author: orange theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763724)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:23 PM
Author: big-titted business firm mad cow disease

"PRIVATELY EXPRESSED SKEPTICISM" is this an actual newspaper anymore??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763132)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:24 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763139)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:24 PM
Author: Vibrant Amethyst Jewess

WHAT MEDIA BIAS???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763145)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:24 PM
Author: Soul-stirring elite plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763146)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:30 PM
Author: Rusted Concupiscible Regret Cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763174)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:50 PM
Author: Ruby bbw

Can we get a fact-check on that fact-check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763285)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:55 PM
Author: wild roast beef

NYT reporters dismiss Trump's claims by citing Hillary "privately expressing skepticism" despite publicly supporting NAFTA, and publicly supporting TPP before saying it does not meet her "high bar" for worker protections.

FACT CHECK: (((NYT reporters)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763320)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 8:41 PM
Author: Yellow pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766448)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 9:13 PM
Author: cheese-eating vivacious therapy house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766642)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:33 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Aggressive Lodge

Mrs. Clinton has called for parts of Nafta to be renegotiated and has said that the Trans-Pacific Partnership, President Obama’s 12-nation pact that she supported while serving as secretary of state, doesn’t meet her “high bar” on protecting American workers and the environment.

How the FUCK is this even included in a "fact check"??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763188)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:36 PM
Author: motley olive stage

Media is captured, exists primarily for Clinton machine propaganda now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763206)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: wild roast beef

(((NYT reporters)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763325)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:20 PM
Author: Soul-stirring elite plaza

lol @ this shit. Rebuttal arguments masked as impartial "fact checks' Just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763102)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:25 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Aggressive Lodge

Its absolutely mindboggling. You have the NYT literally doing her job for her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763149)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:22 PM
Author: Hideous striped hyena

lol this has been the standard for at least the last thirty years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763475)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: galvanic infuriating boistinker famous landscape painting

Their rebuttals managed to make Hillary look even worse, which is a classic Trump tactic. LJLJLJLJLJLJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763152)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:57 PM
Author: fragrant library associate

literally this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763333)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle opaque headpube

Sim glitch: fact checkers about politics are something we know to be 100% biased before reading the article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764806)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 11:57 PM
Author: contagious pink generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30768251)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:26 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Aggressive Lodge

Its almost as if the Shitlib Times doesn't trust the public to form their own opinions or think for themselves...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763156)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:32 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

this can't be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763182)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:00 PM
Author: maroon doctorate rehab

GAS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763347)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:06 PM
Author: Angry dashing stag film

fuck my ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763380)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 2:07 PM
Author: Diverse blathering tanning salon fanboi

Can't believe I subscribed to this rag for years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30763384)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 4:58 PM
Author: appetizing mint main people

• Turning to trade, Mr. Trump said that Mrs. Clinton supported the North American Free Trade Agreement and cited China’s entrance into the World Trade Organization as evidence that his opponent will support deals that harm American workers. He also said that her record as secretary of state should be scorned because America’s trade deficit with China soared under her tenure.

Fact Check: As first lady, Mrs. Clinton privately expressed skepticism about Nafta, the trade pact that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993, though she made statements supportive of it. The trade pact has been widely blamed for the loss of American manufacturing jobs. Mrs. Clinton has called for parts of Nafta to be renegotiated and has said that the Trans-Pacific Partnership, President Obama’s 12-nation pact that she supported while serving as secretary of state, doesn’t meet her “high bar” on protecting American workers and the environment.

lol fact checks are now the author's opinion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764762)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle opaque headpube

Trump: Hillary supported NAFTA.

NYT Fact Checker: Hillary "made statements supportive of NAFTA," so we rate Trump's comment as FALSE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764827)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 8:43 PM
Author: Yellow pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766455)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764831)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:05 PM
Author: unholy overrated police squad

"She supported NAFTA/TPP but it doesn't meet her 'high bar'"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764836)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle opaque headpube

so she supported it but did not support it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30765303)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: Vibrant Amethyst Jewess

curious as to why comments are disabled for this article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764835)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:07 PM
Author: appetizing mint main people

MICHAEL BARBARO is the guy who wrote the "expose" on Trump's relationship with women. Why is he fact-checking speeches? He get demoted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764859)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 11:20 PM
Author: offensive hot shrine roommate

NYT public editor assfucking Michael Barbaro in hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30767870)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:10 PM
Author: racy tan gaming laptop

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764913)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 5:12 PM
Author: Cracking bearded hall

Can Peter Thiel buy this shithole of a rag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30764932)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: blue marketing idea

I hadn't clicked on a NYT link in s very long time. That "fact check" intrigued me. Ljl at that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766089)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 9:05 PM
Author: lime buck-toothed location tattoo

Lol this strikes me as hastily concocted by Hillary's staff and sent to friendly reporters up against a deadline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30766577)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 11:21 PM
Author: Diverse blathering tanning salon fanboi

Those are one and the same btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30767881)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 11:55 PM
Author: Abusive place of business garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30768235)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 11:26 PM
Author: offensive hot shrine roommate

WE ARE THE (((NEW YORK TIMES))) AND WE WILL NOW EDUCATE YOU ON WHAT YOU MISSED IN TRUMP'S SPEECH. COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30767929)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:37 AM
Author: glittery hyperactive sandwich

180 speech. Too bad no one who doesn't already support him with listen to it and continue to just scream raciss! and sexiss!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30770569)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:43 AM
Author: Abusive place of business garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262803&forum_id=2#30770615)