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Any high IQ proles here to LOL at people thinking enviro factors matter?

my parents spoke broken english, never read to me, never got...
bearded azn
  07/01/16
how did you fare in life? did you maek it? if you have ki...
Talented pit knife
  07/01/16
my dad is super intelligent, so my kids will be ok
bearded azn
  07/01/16
race?
Glittery hunting ground dysfunction
  07/01/16
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domesticated citrine ticket booth
  07/01/16
(guy making 60k in Buffalo, NY)
splenetic brunch internal respiration
  07/01/16
BALLING out in BUFFALO don't seem that bad, chief.
Massive Hell Twinkling Uncleanness
  07/01/16
This issue has already been discussed in The Bell Curve, one...
hyperventilating nibblets mental disorder
  07/01/16
libs think enviro is 90% of it
domesticated citrine ticket booth
  07/01/16
the problem is that libs think a good environment means a st...
Arousing Mediation Rehab
  07/01/16
i don't know if that's true. here's a swedish twin study whe...
Talented pit knife
  07/01/16
4.41 probably gels with 30% environmental influence, no? als...
Startled foreskin
  07/01/16
1) sure, but it's not noise. 2) maybe. haven't seen anythin...
Talented pit knife
  07/01/16
when do IQs stabilize? is it at 18? if it's more like 25, th...
Startled foreskin
  07/01/16
this study is an anomaly. there have been others and the gen...
Arousing Mediation Rehab
  07/01/16
well it is true. there have been a number of large scale stu...
Arousing Mediation Rehab
  07/01/16
Yea we have crushing childhood poverty where some kids go hu...
Glittery hunting ground dysfunction
  07/01/16
...
Salmon property
  07/01/16


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Date: July 1st, 2016 3:56 PM
Author: bearded azn

my parents spoke broken english, never read to me, never got me involved in "enriching" activities, etc. no relatives who were doctors, lawyers, etc. still turned out smart and "high-achieving". LOL at libs who think environmental factors explain why some kids are dumb and unmotivated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833010)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 3:59 PM
Author: Talented pit knife

how did you fare in life? did you maek it?

if you have kids, they're going to be reversion to the mean pwned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833031)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:47 PM
Author: bearded azn

my dad is super intelligent, so my kids will be ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833292)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:07 PM
Author: Glittery hunting ground dysfunction

race?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833078)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:10 PM
Author: domesticated citrine ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833095)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:08 PM
Author: splenetic brunch internal respiration

(guy making 60k in Buffalo, NY)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833084)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:08 PM
Author: Massive Hell Twinkling Uncleanness

BALLING out in BUFFALO don't seem that bad, chief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833090)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:12 PM
Author: hyperventilating nibblets mental disorder

This issue has already been discussed in The Bell Curve, one of the best pieces of scholarship in the 20th Century.

In it, they conclude that intelligence is 40-80% hereditary, with environmental factors making up the remainder.

Sounds about right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833102)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:14 PM
Author: domesticated citrine ticket booth

libs think enviro is 90% of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833110)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:16 PM
Author: Arousing Mediation Rehab

the problem is that libs think a good environment means a stable household with attentive parents. in reality, family environment does not affect adult IQ even moderately. the variance in IQ unexplained by genetic factors seems to be developmental noise. pouring money into programs like Head Start to equalize environmental conditions is largely pointless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833117)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: Talented pit knife

i don't know if that's true. here's a swedish twin study where adopted kids get a 4.41 point boost. that's a lot, considering Sweden already had a pretty strong welfare system

http://sciencenordic.com/adopted-children-have-higher-iqs-their-non-adopted-siblings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833133)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: Startled foreskin

4.41 probably gels with 30% environmental influence, no? also a chance that this difference fades by the time the kids are 30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833151)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:27 PM
Author: Talented pit knife

1) sure, but it's not noise.

2) maybe. haven't seen anything where cognitive gains fade from 18 to later adulthood, only childhood vs adulthood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833182)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:30 PM
Author: Startled foreskin

when do IQs stabilize? is it at 18? if it's more like 25, then you might still see those differences relating to childhood environment at 18

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833200)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:34 PM
Author: Arousing Mediation Rehab

this study is an anomaly. there have been others and the general conclusion is that SFE doesn't matter by the age of 17-18. you can mold people for a little while, but their genetic predispositions will eventually dominate environmental inputs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833214)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:28 PM
Author: Arousing Mediation Rehab

well it is true. there have been a number of large scale studies on this, and the bulk of the evidence shows that by late adolescence shared family environment explains close to 0% of the variance in IQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833187)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:28 PM
Author: Glittery hunting ground dysfunction

Yea we have crushing childhood poverty where some kids go hungry and are never read to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833186)



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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:25 PM
Author: Salmon property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272198&forum_id=2#30833164)