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Can anyone explain why college isn't free?
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Date: July 1st, 2016 4:55 PM Author: lake lay College students like me took several years out of the job market and turned many other potentially lucrative opportunities to aware ourselves on issues of importance for our generation and for generations to come. We pay for the military. We pay for banks. We pay for prisons. Yet we do not pay for college. Why? Is it perhaps that college students must be kept in economic bondage for fear that the alternative is that they will overcome our oppressive social constructs and truly transform America into a land of greater consciousness? I wonder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833346) |
Date: July 1st, 2016 5:10 PM Author: Mind-boggling Striped Hyena Someone call a whambulance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833463) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:11 PM Author: Galvanic maroon hall water buffalo It's to keep people like you in line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833472) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:14 PM Author: lake lay That's what I really believe, but we can subvert the system through small acts of defiance, which is what I learned in college. Millennials have to realize that we have collective power and agency and use this to challenge the system and its norms for everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833510) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:15 PM Author: Galvanic maroon hall water buffalo Not possible to do that when you're shackled to a pile of debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833516) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:17 PM Author: lake lay I totally agree. But it looks like things are getting better. Thanks to the Sanders campaign, which I admired but did not support, it looks like Hillary Clinton will pass legislation to afford major debt relief. This could be her Obamacare moment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833528) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:33 PM Author: Galvanic maroon hall water buffalo But Hillary's not running for the Senate again. Not that she did a damn thing to help anyone in debt when she was in, anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833667) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:34 PM Author: lake lay Hillary will be like the LBJ to Obama who was more like Kennedy. She has the legislative chops to get his program passed because she is well-loved by members on both sides of the aisle in the House and Senate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833682) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:36 PM Author: Cyan disrespectful trump supporter box office it's embarrassing that someone more than five years out of college still has such $$$ problems that he needs a loan bailout (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833691) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:37 PM Author: lake lay Shame is a powerful tool used by capitalists to keep us in bondage. I have learned to embrace shame and accept it as part of my human story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833700) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:40 PM Author: Cyan disrespectful trump supporter box office nah ding man, by calling for a bailout you've implicitly acknowledged you are an inferior member of society and that those currently with the power are the ones who have agency while you don't if you want to express your rejection of global capitalism, you have to engage in violent revolution, not sit around feeling shame and whining about mo money fo dem programs |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:18 PM Author: lake lay Funny how no one applies to logic to the banks that greedily accepted public money after they imploded the world economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835753) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:13 PM Author: scarlet fragrant base its to create the illusion and not break it that college is a valuable experience for all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833493) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:15 PM Author: lake lay This just seems like subscribing to capitalist logic that money (transaction) is the real measure of value. But that's not true. What matters are relationships. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833517) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:18 PM Author: scarlet fragrant base in so far as college facilitates relationships, its valuable. but in reality its just all competition and comparing grades and sucking up to profs to get a better grade. if they got rid of grades maybe college could be a relationship building experience, who knows. as it is its just a meat grinder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833543) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:27 PM Author: lake lay I meant relationships more in the sense of articulating the power dynamics that shape society, like oppression and racism and capitalism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833604) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:16 PM Author: Beady-eyed red whorehouse Fresh execution of a well-worn shtick.
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:17 PM Author: Ungodly Abode Weed Whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833540) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:26 PM Author: Umber big persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833596) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 4:24 AM Author: Motley shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836721) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:16 PM Author: Sooty Lodge Potus College is free for anyone with a brain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833527) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:17 PM Author: lake lay Not true. I know many smart people who went to Stanford and Harvard who still struggle to pay back their student loans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833541) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:19 PM Author: Sooty Lodge Potus ??? They could have gone to state schools with a full ride. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833547) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:28 PM Author: lake lay Many state legislatures are cutting funding for universities. It's part of the reason that Republican control of state and local government is really a pressing issue for our country right now. John Oliver explains this really well, but I can't find the video right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833616) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:39 PM Author: Cyan disrespectful trump supporter box office yeah maybe THE oklahoma university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833715) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:19 PM Author: Thriller copper place of business electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835755) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:19 PM Author: Mentally impaired pozpig crackhouse http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272269&mc=2&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833548) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:32 PM Author: lake lay Here's why that's a problem. It's 2016, and the government ALREADY subsidizes corn and oil and the military and Wall Street and you're telling me that ONLY student loan subsidies magically make costs go UP unlike every other subsidy where costs go DOWN because all those other subsidies are applied on a LONG-TERM scale whereas you want to (exclusively, selectively, meretriciously) treat student loans as an exception that can only be evaluated on a SHORT-TERM scale, ignoring salient facts like how student loan interest rates are pegged to the overall base lending rate anyway so your concern trolling is deeply out of place here and contributing to the oppression instead of fixing it.
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:40 PM Author: Submissive Pearl Ratface Feces Expenditures per student is almost certainly less in free/controlled tuition countries where the govt controls post-secondary education than in the US. Larger class sizes, fewer sports teams, shittier accommodations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833728) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 5:46 PM Author: sienna legal warrant market Boomer administrators need their pound of flesh. Think of all the diversity coordinators they can hire with that $2,000 tuition increase (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30833781) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:19 PM Author: lake lay I'm fine with spending more money on our colleges and universities, but students should not be the ones paying. It's a public resource! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835757) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:18 PM Author: glittery bearded circlehead We used to have affordable, world-class flagship Us in this country even 10-20 years ago, don't forget it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835754) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:22 PM Author: lake lay Yes, and then Reagan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835769) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:23 PM Author: glittery bearded circlehead The confluence of events leading up to the fact that these schools price out everyone but the UMC is pretty complex.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835774) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:26 PM Author: lake lay No, sometimes history is simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835794) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:25 PM Author: diverse walnut plaza french chef You lost me at "we pay for banks" Wft? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835783) |
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Date: July 1st, 2016 11:26 PM Author: lake lay The federal government pays to keep banks operating so that they don't crash the world economy. What isn't clear? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30835787) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 2:48 AM Author: odious church puppy Because college is only useful as a signaling device, and signaling devices become more useless the less onerous they are. The more people go to college, the more watered down the signaling becomes. Hence the need for graduate degrees, internships, etc. to supplement the signaling.
Ultimately, college does nothing to increase the value of human capital -- it's merely a sorting mechanism. Sending more people to college (for free) fucks up the sorting mechanism. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 2:57 AM Author: Medicated angry menage skinny woman TITCR
really don't understand why this isn't talked about more |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 2:59 AM Author: avocado histrionic bawdyhouse fanboi No one wants to talk about it because every prestigeboomer thinks he has dem SUPERIOR ABILITIES which may have been true decades ago but not now.
College is progressively exposed more and more as the $cam it is. Can't wait to see the house of shitcards come collapsing down. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 3:12 AM Author: lake lay You're confusing issues here. College is not just a signaling mechanism, it is also about introducing people to the life of the mind. We need that for society to function and progress. You are making it as if college was made for the market, instead of the other way around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836615) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 3:13 AM Author: avocado histrionic bawdyhouse fanboi jfc shut the fuck up you screeching libqueer
this might be the gayest poast i have encountered on XO |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 5:19 AM Author: blathering stimulating chad home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836757) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2016 2:12 PM Author: lake lay This is the violence of the system condensed into one poast. Challenge capitalism, challenge racism, challenge patriarchy and you will always be confronted by the only recourse that oppression really has: Shut up, queer. You are the William F. Buckley of this exchange, sir. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30843828) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 5:05 AM Author: Medicated angry menage skinny woman Obviously you're shitty flame but every fucking office job requires a degree so college is de facto (useless) job training (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836748) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 2:58 AM Author: avocado histrionic bawdyhouse fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836581) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 2:50 AM Author: Racy chapel dopamine Global Capitalism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836565) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 2:53 AM Author: avocado histrionic bawdyhouse fanboi -College as a commodity
-Over-accommodation
-Severe cuts in fed funding
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 3:13 AM Author: lake lay You remind of the man who couldn't satisfy his wife in bed, so he decided to kill her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836618) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 3:14 AM Author: avocado histrionic bawdyhouse fanboi You remind me of the retard who should have killedself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30836622) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 12:46 PM Author: Talented Pale Cruise Ship Legend free market. look it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30837891) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2016 12:47 PM Author: chest-beating marvelous community account pervert That would be Robin Hood in reverse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3272242&forum_id=2#30837895) |