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peterman, just go to law school faggot. that's what this whole charade is about
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:18 PM Author: Onyx mental disorder volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859098) |
Date: July 5th, 2016 7:37 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown Na. will get an MBA if anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859194) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:37 PM Author: provocative cordovan toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859197) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:58 PM Author: Ungodly Casino Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859309) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:38 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate take the LSAT at least. if you get 170+ take a half scholly to T14, graduate top half, you know the rest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859205) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:39 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown r u a lawyer friend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859208) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:48 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate yes
ive told u the CR law path several times |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:52 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown why are all the folks here so against it? im so confused im going crazy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859271) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 7:59 PM Author: Very tactful lemon set black woman XO is no longer top tier law grads. It's not bottom of the barrel either. It's the people in the middle/just on the cusp of top tier who were never good enough and won't be good enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859313) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:00 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown If I go to a T10 and do OK will I be OK? I have some OK work experience and I'm a likeable dude in person. Just want to last in biglaw a few years and then get a sweet 9-6 250k jerb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859319) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:08 PM Author: Very tactful lemon set black woman Dude. Take the fucking LSAT. If you score well enough to get into HYS or CCN with at least 50% scholly, go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859369) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:11 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate titcr. his breakdown should be
1. take LSAT 2. if >170, apply to LS 3. if get into T6/T14 with scholly, and not on solid career track, attend
all of these can be done with minimal extra effort and there's no obligation until the last step |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:03 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859334) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:02 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate its a somewhat crappy job that pays you more than you would make doing most other
the prototypical LS grad is a poli sci major who would have gone nowhere in life if not for LS. he was relatively smart so got into biglaw and was paid way more than he was worth. since he had absolutely zero experience, he was being paid big money to be 1. available and 2. focus on nitty gritty details no one else cares about
in this job, even though the biglawyer has no relevant experience, he ends up working for and being surrounded by much richer people, and being billed out for stupid amounts of money. so after a while he begins to think he's 'worth' that money and should be as rich as clients/partners. after all, he works harder! pays attention to all the little detaisl they ignore! look how much he brings in for the firm! so there is a lot of disatisfaction with grinding 50-60+ hours a week and being on call nights and weekends when you see people who are making alot more money but seem to be working less. after all, you take care of the important stuff! the bringdowns and closings and checklists! you are contributing to the global song of capitalism! you should be rewarded as such
people who have worked real jobs and real corporate jobs in the past understand the tradeoffs - the job has its shitty parts (aspie lawyers, on call, weekends/vacations ruined). in exchange, it pays you 2-3x what you would earn on the strenght of your poli sci degree and zero work experience
ive worked 9-5 (more like 10-4) corporate jobs making anywhere from 30k-150k, worked 2200 hours/year biglaw making 160-300k, and 9-5 in house making an similar amount. it's all in your perspective |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:07 PM Author: Very tactful lemon set black woman This. This a million times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859361) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:12 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Your 10 to 4 jobs sound 180...
And yes those are all the terrible things about biglaw (on call, weekends/nights/vacations ruined, etc)..which tbh make it not worth while |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:13 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown (guy sitting in a 600k house) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859414) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:16 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig I'd rather be in your position brother...biglaw is terrible if you have any hobbies or a life outside of work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859429) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:17 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown i just want prestige brother. fuck hobbies besides reading, scholarly discussion, and sport.
i will also probably never have a wife/kids. so theres that |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:19 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Lol Jesus you sound sociopathic...sounds like you will do well in biglaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859450) |
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Date: July 16th, 2017 1:00 PM Author: gay crusty gas station hominid Print out this above comment you made because it will come to haunt you the rest of your life.
I 100% guarantee it. |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:19 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate right, which is why you dont make biglaw the end goal. the end goal is to get 9-5 300k in house where you dont work nights and weekends
i remmber poasting on this bort several years ago complaining about my financial situation compared to a friend in IT. at the time i was massively in debt, making 160k starting, and my friend had grinded through the IT ranks while i was in law school, making 70, 80, 90, 110k, etc. he was making something like 120k at the time, no debt, lots of savings. i was at 160k, -150k debt. someone point out that i was just starting out my career and i would easily outpace him in the long run. today our net worths are probably similar (his is prob a bit higher), but i make double what he does, and that'll continue for the forseable future. i work slightly more but his job is starting to get shitty too. |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:21 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Or burn out of biglaw like I did as a midlevel and never want to do law again...another common outcome out of biglaw ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859461) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:22 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate fair
picking the right firm/practice group has alot to do with it.
what do u do now |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:24 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Chilling and enjoying life...thinking of going back to do quant stuff again.....but I'm taking it easy
Maybe I'll become a high school math teacher and get summers off |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:23 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown are you doing something interesting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859474) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:25 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Not at the moment but I might do quant work again...or become a math teacher...I refuse to work long hours and do shit work again for the rest of my life..I will take that paycut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859489) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:26 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown do gov relations bro, you just track politics and shit. its 9-5 and they'd salivate over your Ivy JD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859497) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:27 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Yeah I will apply when I get my ass off this luscious couch...being unemployed is 180
That does sound chill....don't even know what gov relations means..so it must be a 180 job |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:28 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown "political affairs" "government affairs" "Government relations" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859510) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:28 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Sounds like 180 bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859514) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:29 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown it is, and its time to cash in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859516) |
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Date: November 21st, 2016 7:08 PM Author: poppy nowag regret What is the CR law path ? scholarship -> corp/tech trans -> in house? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#31964488) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:13 PM Author: big translucent shrine police squad If you get a 170+, it may be worth it. Apparently law school admissions are not anywhere near as competitive as when I applied (2003-2004) and bigfirms need bodies. If you go to t6 school, I'd say you have a good shot (like 75%) at getting to a point where you're never paid less than $200k/year. I think back to my classmates and almost 10 years out, I bet the median income is something like $250k range. I know what maybe 75% of my classmates are doing so I'll just assume the rest are total losers. I'm also not counting the people who are now SAHPs or left law to a clearly less lucrative profession like artist or writer or something by choice. Anyway, the odds are good.
Just make sure you don't do litigation. |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:14 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Doing mindnumbingly boring work...and work shit hours and on call in biglaw... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859418) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:20 PM Author: big translucent shrine police squad 99% of jobs are boring, mind numbing work, particularly those available to your average poli sci shithead. The difference is that there is no chance for advancement at your average job but if you grind away 3-5 years in biglaw, you can get a nice salary and trade in the bad lifestyle for a decent in-house one. those years in biglaw may be a grind but I think it's a sacrifice worth making as long as you have an exit plan and work toward it from day1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859459) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:23 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig I wasn't a poli sci major and I don't think Peterman was either....
Law is more boring and stressful than other white collar jobs...thats just fact...also fewer job opps compared to like cpa, CFA or programming |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:25 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown I am WORSE than a polisci shithead. cant say more without outing oneself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859492) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:29 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Didn't you have a fed gov job? Just do that again..that's like my dream job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859517) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:29 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown I was a paid intern. I was in a shitty office and hated it. all my old chill bigfed bros told me to do something else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859526) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:33 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Why don't you apply to another fed gov job? Fed gov seems 180 compared to in house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859548) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:44 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown lol because I'm not a black veteran female (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859621) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:29 PM Author: big translucent shrine police squad Big lawyers make a shit ton more than your average cpa or programmer. I work at a place with a bunch of CFAs and their lives are way more stressful than mine assuming you're talking about investment professionals. Those people generally went banking to hf/pe route. They make more money than big lawyers though. That's a trade off you make...more money for more stress. The point is that this stress can be a temporary sacrifice you make as long as you develop a plan to get out eventually, but once you get out, you can still make great money even if it isn't biglaw money. Your average programmer or cpa can't do the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859522) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:32 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown CR the average CPA or programmer would have to grind out a pretty mediocre career and get lucky a few times in order to get on a 250k 9-5. also their 250k 9-5 will be director of XXXX and will be much more stressful than an inhouse jerb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859535) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:32 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig No grad school debt and programmers start out making 100k in cali
Lots more jobs available to them..... |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:32 PM Author: Adventurous blathering temple pozpig Programmers start at like 100k out of college in California..no debt..get equity in companies
CPAs make like high figures with no grad degree..legit 9 to 5 options in house
Both have lots and lots and lots more job opps than lawyers.....don't like your job? Who cares find a new one in a week... |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:45 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown i think tech is awesome in this way. would be truly 180 to have that much market value and just do whatever the fuck you want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859631) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:45 PM Author: big translucent shrine police squad Lol the programmers I know started at like $50-60k. I don't mind know any CPAs other than the controller and the CFO at my company but those people have unicorn jobs in a sea of faceless CPAs. Even a programmer friend at Google who has a masters started around $80k. I don't know what crack you're smoking thinking your average programmer is getting equity at startups, most of which arent going to not succeed anyway. Also, all this is moot anyway since peterman is not a programmer or accountant and isn't going back to college anyway. My advice is also based on scoring over a 170 on the lsat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859633) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:50 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859662) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:23 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859481) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 8:20 PM Author: multi-colored cumskin roommate titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30859454) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 10:04 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30860257) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 10:11 PM Author: swashbuckling orchestra pit lol oh wait, nutella is showing her face here again after her epic self-pwn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#30860324) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 1:58 PM Author: opaque nighttime quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#34723663) |
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Date: January 9th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: talented windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#35119613) |
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Date: July 5th, 2016 9:38 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown Is this normal?
This brings back memories. When I was a second year, we had a case with a 100+ page privilege log, and I was the junior associate assigned with proofing and cross-checking it. I was also the only associate on a case pending before the Tenth Circuit, and I drafted the briefs (in retrospect, they were crazy not to get someone more senior in there). We had close family friends with a have-to-attend wedding in London the week the privilege log was due (I gave three months notice that I needed to be gone), and the week before the COA brief was. I pulled two consecutive all-nighters on the privilege log before leaving. I fell asleep in the cab on the way to the airport. I fell asleep on the runway, with a hard copy of the brief in my lap. I woke up when my spouse told me I had to get off the plane in London. We had lunch, and then s/he took a nap to fight off the jet lag. I worked. I woke up at 5:00 AM the first morning there to work. I intended to wake up the next morning to work but overslept. We went to the wedding, and left at midnight after the reception for the airport. We found a corner in Heathrow to camp out, and then my spouse slept on the floor while I worked until our 6:00 AM flight. I worked on the plane until I passed out. My spouse complained about that trip for approximately three years.
The punchline is that this all didn't prevent me from getting yelled at for leaving the privilege log in less-than-polished shape, and yelled at again for having a few embarrassing typos in the brief. (Though the latter was almost entirely local counsel's fault, and we got the COA to reverse, so all's well that ends well.) |
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Date: July 29th, 2016 12:33 PM Author: bistre vivacious clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#31060817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 9:50 AM Author: self-centered electric office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#34661000) |
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Date: January 9th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Cobalt Corner Gunner lol, being pete must be peak experience rn, all the chasms of despair he avoided, just absolutely peak experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3275791&forum_id=2#35119620) |
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