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The Gabby Douglas "hand over heart" controversy during the anthem is interesting
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:30 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike There is apparently a controversy regarding Gabby Douglas and the fact that she didn't put her hand over her heart during the national anthem when the US women's gymnastics team won the team gold medal. She was the only member who didn't do so:
https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/gabby-douglas.jpg?w=670&h=377&crop=1
Apparently a lot of people on social media gave her shit for that, and also for seeming to be very sour the whole time and not cheering on her teammates:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/15/gabby-douglas-hounding-american-champion-olympics
Most of the comments in the article are pretty quick to blame this brou-ha-ha on "racist white amerikkans". They either say gabby forgot, or she was doing her own thing.
Regarding the fact that she forgot, she is a two-time Olympian who won 2 golds in 2012 and clearly did the hand over heart for both:
Interestingly enough, the US Code says people are supposed to put their hand over their heart during the national anthem:
http://law.justia.com/codes/us/1996/title36/chap10/sec171/
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:33 PM Author: spruce appetizing circlehead I think she was upset because of how she got screwed, which is kind of true. She did it that way because she was being pouty. She got called out for it by people who call out every athlete for shit like this. She'll be defended by the people that defend people who do this and those that for some reason will turn this into a white men mansplaining shit to a heroic WOC, despite the fact that they say this shit about everyone that acts like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192021) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:35 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike Yeah, I clearly think the 2-per-country rule is bogus.
But let's not forget she was a direct beneficiary of that in 2012. She was 3rd in qualifying and Jordyn Wieber (defending world champion) was 4th, so she knocked out her teammate and one of her biggest competitors. If ANYONE should be a little more understanding it's Gabby. |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:37 PM Author: spruce appetizing circlehead I had actually forgotten about that. Well, fuck her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192048) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 5:08 PM Author: walnut chest-beating school This... of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192280) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:39 PM Author: thriller school cafeteria ape and the rule was put into place to fuck the russians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192065) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 5:24 PM Author: stirring corn cake how did she get screwed when she got selected for the US team in the first place for emotional reasons even though she didn't actually qualify fair and square, she was #7 in the comp and the team always takes 1-5 unless they take one person to PWN in a single event (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192376) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 5:27 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike two things:
1. gabby is good on bars, and the team needed more bars help
2. gabby won a world silver last year in the all-around, so at the very least she has some recent experience under pressure.
also, marta karolyi explained in an article i was reading that part of the reason none of the girls who finished 4-6 were picked was because (a) they didn't have scores in BB, FX, or Vault that would surpass the top three US gymnasts, and in the team final only three gymnasts perform, and (b) they weren't great on bars, which is where the USA actually needed help. |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 6:25 PM Author: Exciting Quadroon Maybe we should ditch one of the hundred swimmers we bring for a few more gymnasts. Five always seemed way too few. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192860) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 6:27 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike gymnastics/IOC restricts the number (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192884) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:35 PM Author: indigo messiness stage I read that she seemed very bitchy in general, so it's possible this wasn't a conscious political statement. She may well have been thinking (fuck this, I don't want to be here) while the anthem played and really forgot to honor the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192030) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:38 PM Author: spruce appetizing circlehead Definitely think this was just a young girl being a bit obnoxious and nothing else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192053) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:43 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike I agree, but it's interesting how quick all the commenters in the article above are to cry racism, like there could be no other explanation except dumb racist whites.
I do also think she feels like a bit of a fraud (as much as an Olympic gold medalist can feel like a fraud). Outside of that one gold in all-around in 2012, she hasn't done much of note (i noted in a prior thread that no single women's all-around champion in the olympics has ever failed to medal in an event final -- and Gabby has now failed to medal in an event final for two consecutive Olympics), and she has probably taken some criticism for that. Add that to her 7th place finish in the trials and no individual medals in Rio and she's prob a bit pissy. |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:46 PM Author: spruce appetizing circlehead Do people just forget the MacKayla is not impressed shit from 4 years ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192123) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:47 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike people remember it, though i think you can distinguish the two (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192128) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:49 PM Author: spruce appetizing circlehead She got shit for being bitchy at what was supposed to be a major moment. Gabby got shit for the same. Maroney owned up to it after the fact and turned it into a joke. As it should go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192145) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:50 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192149) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:44 PM Author: house-broken histrionic liquid oxygen mad cow disease she is 20 y/o aka a shrew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192102) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:52 PM Author: Plum trailer park while i think this is way overblown, what i find even more interesting is that none of her teammates have stepped up and defended her. you would think some would but she's having to write op-eds and defend herself. ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192168) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:53 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike you think she's unliked amongst the national team? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192178) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:58 PM Author: Plum trailer park i don't see any of her teammates defending her. you would think some of her teammates would be like, 'no no gabby is amazing. you guys have it totally wrong' but no. ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192208) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike i wonder if she was a total bitch after she won the AA in 2012.
i definitely got the feeling that she was an outsider in 2012, very johnny-come-lately. JCM might know more |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 5:38 PM Author: internet-worthy silver place of business property Lol at not seeing how racist that interpretation is...
Raisman and the rest of the team were horrible to her in 2012. Their body language was horrible and they would barely speak to the young newcomer. They obviously didn't like that she came and took their shine.
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Date: August 15th, 2016 5:44 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike can you expound more on that? do you know details regarding how she didn't fit in with the group?
i also don't necessarily see how that's per se racist. the US gymnastics team has had non-white girls on the team in the last 20 years, like amy chow, dominique dawes, annia hatch, mohini bardwaj, kyla ross, laurie hernandez, simone biles.
it certainly seems like simone and laurie get along just fine, and certainly kyla did. and aly is jewish. |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 5:58 PM Author: Zombie-like marketing idea jewish gymnast creating racial tension to distract america goyim from jewish takeover of the world... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192653) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 6:04 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike lol, jews won't be taking over the sporting world breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192677) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 6:05 PM Author: Zombie-like marketing idea a JEW remains the only tennis player to win gold in singles and doubles in the same olympics. incredible. not even all-time great doctors can match that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192693) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 6:19 PM Author: citrine sanctuary For some reason they don't teach the national anthem in school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192820) |
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Date: August 15th, 2016 6:31 PM Author: maize floppy gunner blacks are militant and anti-American, stop the presses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31192926) |
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Date: August 18th, 2016 11:01 PM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#31219517) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 10:15 AM Author: out-of-control home preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3322737&forum_id=2#34730138) |