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Have to fire someone next week. Am dreading it.

She is a bad lawyer with terrible hours who adds very little...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
They'll be better off! Just tell the person to work for his ...
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
she tried that at some point before she came to us. I don't...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
It's a girl is she fuckable? If she does things right give h...
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
no, not at all
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
ugly and bad at her job? DING!
Cyan unholy turdskin hell
  09/20/16
...
exhilarant address
  09/20/16
You're a decent human being, congrats
Glassy queen of the night athletic conference
  09/20/16
...
Mustard casino
  09/20/16
just be happy it isn't reversed
Honey-headed low-t telephone
  09/20/16
"with terrible hours" LOL @ this "professi...
Hyperactive hunting ground
  09/20/16
Especially once you include her share of fixed costs, we are...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
why doesnt anyone want to work with her
Hyperactive hunting ground
  09/20/16
see below. Just not a good lawyer.
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
what makes her a bad lawyer and how long has she been with t...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
A year. Has billed 750 hours. Makes mistakes, so you have ...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
she has to know the ax is coming after performance reviews a...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
yes, probably, although I insinuated a month or so ago that ...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
btw, how glaring are her mistakes? i kind of do this too but...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
pretty glaring. Gave her about 15 tenant estoppels to prepa...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
T25 LS? If not, this is what your firm gets for hiring 40 yr...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
what's a "T25"
domesticated alcoholic cuck garrison
  09/20/16
top 25
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
how are you gonna do it?
spectacular emerald principal's office crotch
  09/20/16
Walk into her office, shut the door, and tell her we are let...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
Well, there it is. I understand feeling bad for someone who...
indecent stage
  09/20/16
you'd better have someone else in there with you or you're g...
slate greedy national security agency bawdyhouse
  09/21/16
*Global capitalism gently placing your hand on the gun* *...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
she is actually older than me. Probably early 40's.
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
how can someone that old not know how to practice law
Bateful menage
  09/20/16
we have a number of people like this. Been practicing for y...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
Please provide an example/anecdote showcasing this
Bateful menage
  09/20/16
is she a 1st yr?
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
no, junior skills, but actually graduated from law school a ...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
Early 40s is ting it top genes and takes care of body perfec...
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
what language is this? is it like ebonics?
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
careful
domesticated alcoholic cuck garrison
  09/20/16
Ye$ Ebonics my friend! Online Ebonics
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
180
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
If it makes you feel better,she's prob on wife/mommy track a...
Gold Razzmatazz Nursing Home Dingle Berry
  09/20/16
no kids
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
Hmm I couldn't stand people like this at my engineering firm...
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
you're so fucking annoying. shut the hell up already
Demanding Swashbuckling Foreskin
  09/20/16
cr
wine provocative fortuitous meteor
  09/20/16
lol'd irl
Submissive heaven really tough guy
  09/21/16
Oh hmm, it sounded like she was some 27 year old first year ...
Gold Razzmatazz Nursing Home Dingle Berry
  09/20/16
Firing people is never fun, especially when you're not givin...
hot disturbing trailer park
  09/20/16
you mean all AZN's
Lilac maniacal windowlicker mood
  09/20/16
Yeah very sick people that enjoy firing someone
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
As someone who just got fired recently (and who has had to f...
Motley impressive lodge
  09/20/16
"This eliminates embarrassing shit like begging for ano...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
it's rare but it does happen unfortunately. You just have to...
Motley impressive lodge
  09/20/16
you got fired from the bartender job?
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
bar manager bro. I got drunk at the bar on saturday night af...
Motley impressive lodge
  09/20/16
wow, that was quick. what now?
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
back to pounding the pavement.
Motley impressive lodge
  09/20/16
whats the big deal? you can't drink at the bar when you're o...
curious embarrassed to the bone kitty cat
  09/20/16
I thought it was a total over-reaction and was not expecting...
Motley impressive lodge
  09/20/16
sounds like you lost the respect of staff and thus your auth...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
that was his read for sure. Not sure how accurate it is but ...
Motley impressive lodge
  09/20/16
your firm gonna keep her on the website and act as a referen...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
yes, we will. And give her 6 weeks severance.
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
To be fair, that's what you get for paying your associates s...
Seedy concupiscible dysfunction haunted graveyard
  09/20/16
boom
Bateful menage
  09/20/16
We don't pay all associates badly, just the shitty ones whic...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
You said there are "many" like her in your firm! W...
diverse voyeur
  09/20/16
haha
orange location brethren
  09/21/16
you don't have some sort of semi lock step system based on c...
Seedy concupiscible dysfunction haunted graveyard
  09/20/16
semi lockstep, although it is very much based on skills, and...
Laughsome Knife
  09/20/16
re: the ppl who "jumped around a lot between lit and tr...
Ungodly lay
  09/20/16
i feel bad for her but would feel worse if she was some eage...
Gay soul-stirring indian lodge
  09/20/16
This. I would have serious trouble firing someone enthusias...
indecent stage
  09/20/16
fuck, now I have to give her a bunch of work to do knowing t...
Laughsome Knife
  09/21/16
it's a kindness to her that you feel so guilty allow some...
effete mexican mediation
  09/21/16
I am not a very angry person. I have a lot/way too much emp...
Laughsome Knife
  09/21/16
they haven't ruined you yet; stay strong
effete mexican mediation
  09/21/16
Wow. She quit on her own. How fortuitous!
Laughsome Knife
  09/26/16
Details ?
Fighting Irradiated Degenerate
  09/27/16
just found out that she got a job in biglaw with a really go...
Laughsome Knife
  09/27/16
She read this thread.
contagious site
  09/27/16


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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:30 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

She is a bad lawyer with terrible hours who adds very little to our firm, but it is still almost all I can think about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451396)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:40 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

They'll be better off! Just tell the person to work for his or her self

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451473)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:40 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

she tried that at some point before she came to us. I don't think it went well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451481)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:44 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

It's a girl is she fuckable? If she does things right give her a chance to save her job friend;) or find her something else;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451504)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

no, not at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451510)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: Cyan unholy turdskin hell

ugly and bad at her job?

DING!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451535)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 7:21 PM
Author: exhilarant address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31454084)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:30 PM
Author: Glassy queen of the night athletic conference

You're a decent human being, congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451405)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:02 PM
Author: Mustard casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451636)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:31 PM
Author: Honey-headed low-t telephone

just be happy it isn't reversed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451409)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:32 PM
Author: Hyperactive hunting ground

"with terrible hours"

LOL @ this "profession"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451412)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:32 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

Especially once you include her share of fixed costs, we are losing a good bit of money by employing her.

And her hours are shit because no one wants to work with her, not because there isn't enough work to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451424)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:37 PM
Author: Hyperactive hunting ground

why doesnt anyone want to work with her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451452)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:39 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

see below. Just not a good lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451466)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:34 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

what makes her a bad lawyer and how long has she been with teh firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451434)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:37 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

A year. Has billed 750 hours. Makes mistakes, so you have to check everything she does. Doesn't have any intuitive sense of the right thing to do and clearly doesn't often even understand what is going on. If she were enthusiastic or responsive or any of those things that are intangible, we might be willing to work with her, but doesn't really seem to care much or have a particularly good attitude about anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451455)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:39 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

she has to know the ax is coming after performance reviews and billing 750, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451467)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:40 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

yes, probably, although I insinuated a month or so ago that we might instead move her to hourly, although now we've decided we just need to cut the cord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451476)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:47 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

btw, how glaring are her mistakes? i kind of do this too but never anything substantive (i think).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451521)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

pretty glaring. Gave her about 15 tenant estoppels to prepare for a real estate acquisition, and there are at least 5 mistakes that would be a major issue if they ever actually came up after closing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451532)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:50 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

T25 LS? If not, this is what your firm gets for hiring 40 yr old TTT grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451545)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:56 PM
Author: domesticated alcoholic cuck garrison

what's a "T25"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451590)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:59 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

top 25

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451617)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:37 PM
Author: spectacular emerald principal's office crotch

how are you gonna do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451451)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:38 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

Walk into her office, shut the door, and tell her we are letting her go. She has gotten a lot of talking to over the last couple of months, so it certainly won't come as a complete shock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451463)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:32 PM
Author: indecent stage

Well, there it is. I understand feeling bad for someone who didn't realize there was an issue and who didn't get a chance to fix things. Sounds like she had multiple opportunities and has a bad attitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451883)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 9:34 PM
Author: slate greedy national security agency bawdyhouse

you'd better have someone else in there with you or you're going to get lawsuitpwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31463462)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:42 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

*Global capitalism gently placing your hand on the gun*

*Raises your arm and points it at young millenial's head*

"Just close your eyes, pull the trigger, and it will be over before you know it," GC whispers in your ear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451487)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:43 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

she is actually older than me. Probably early 40's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451493)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Bateful menage

how can someone that old not know how to practice law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451511)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:47 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

we have a number of people like this. Been practicing for years and just don't "get it". Aren't able to make decisions for themselves, and when they do make them, they are often terrible....still make big mistakes...don't know what issues are important. I'm convinced that if you don't "get it" after 5 years of practicing law, you will never.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451519)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:18 PM
Author: Bateful menage

Please provide an example/anecdote showcasing this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451774)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

is she a 1st yr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451515)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:48 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

no, junior skills, but actually graduated from law school a while ago. No positive why we hired her, but it wasn't my decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451526)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:47 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

Early 40s is ting it top genes and takes care of body perfect top, bottom; inside and out! I wouldn't fire her I'd mentor her! "Age is a flamelie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451523)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

what language is this? is it like ebonics?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451538)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:56 PM
Author: domesticated alcoholic cuck garrison

careful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451593)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:57 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

Ye$ Ebonics my friend! Online Ebonics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451599)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451646)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Gold Razzmatazz Nursing Home Dingle Berry

If it makes you feel better,she's prob on wife/mommy track and was just riding things out until firing and won't be upset. Nobody bills 750 if they cared at all about the job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451509)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

no kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451512)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

Hmm I couldn't stand people like this at my engineering firm but I ended up covering all of their hours and made a fortune Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451534)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:06 PM
Author: Demanding Swashbuckling Foreskin

you're so fucking annoying. shut the hell up already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451669)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:20 PM
Author: wine provocative fortuitous meteor

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451793)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 8:51 PM
Author: Submissive heaven really tough guy

lol'd irl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31463041)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: Gold Razzmatazz Nursing Home Dingle Berry

Oh hmm, it sounded like she was some 27 year old first year but she's actually a 40s something mid level?

I'm sure she sees the writing on the wall though and won't be surprised at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451575)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:52 PM
Author: hot disturbing trailer park

Firing people is never fun, especially when you're not giving them notice (I never give people notice).

It's only slightly enjoyable when the person is a dick and everyone hates the person.

It's never something I look forward to though. People who look forward to that kind of shit are 2 steps away from becoming serial killers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451563)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: Lilac maniacal windowlicker mood

you mean all AZN's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451570)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

Yeah very sick people that enjoy firing someone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451571)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:56 PM
Author: Motley impressive lodge

As someone who just got fired recently (and who has had to fire ppl in the past) my only advice is to be respectful and professional and to make sure she knows immediately that the decision has already been made. This eliminates embarrassing shit like begging for another chance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451586)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 12:59 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

"This eliminates embarrassing shit like begging for another chance."

jfc. this sounds absolutely brutal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451612)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:01 PM
Author: Motley impressive lodge

it's rare but it does happen unfortunately. You just have to close the door firmly right at the beginning. The dude who just canned me said "I need my keys back" first thing so there was no question the decision had been made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451629)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

you got fired from the bartender job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451639)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Motley impressive lodge

bar manager bro. I got drunk at the bar on saturday night after a long day shift. I sat down to have a bowl of soup and relax and two regulars bought me a drink. Ended up getting wasted. Next day I came in the owner was there to fire me. No bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451681)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

wow, that was quick. what now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451715)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:17 PM
Author: Motley impressive lodge

back to pounding the pavement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451759)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:38 PM
Author: curious embarrassed to the bone kitty cat

whats the big deal? you can't drink at the bar when you're off duty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451936)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:41 PM
Author: Motley impressive lodge

I thought it was a total over-reaction and was not expecting to get fired. I WAS wasted however and they needed to call an uber for me because my phone died. It's hard to explain the vibe of the place but the owner is pretty involved and he told me he didn't think the staff would be comfortable around me after this happened. That being said, I should have had a better read on the situation and not gotten drunk there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451952)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:44 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

sounds like you lost the respect of staff and thus your authority over them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451974)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:46 PM
Author: Motley impressive lodge

that was his read for sure. Not sure how accurate it is but it's his place and he gets to make up the rules. Sucks getting fired and I know beggars can't be choosers but I didn't really like it there so in a way it's a relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451983)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:00 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

your firm gonna keep her on the website and act as a reference at least? it'd be easier firing her knowing she has a good chance of finding something else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451623)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:19 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

yes, we will. And give her 6 weeks severance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451777)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:04 PM
Author: Seedy concupiscible dysfunction haunted graveyard

To be fair, that's what you get for paying your associates shit, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451654)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:19 PM
Author: Bateful menage

boom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451781)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:25 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

We don't pay all associates badly, just the shitty ones which we probably should never have hired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451823)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:29 PM
Author: diverse voyeur

You said there are "many" like her in your firm! Why not clean house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451854)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 4:21 PM
Author: orange location brethren

haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31461159)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:48 PM
Author: Seedy concupiscible dysfunction haunted graveyard

you don't have some sort of semi lock step system based on class year?

How do you decide how much to pay a 40 year old junior/midlevel lawyer?

How much was she actually paid (give or take - no doobs).

We are having a hard time recruiting talent for real estate - but we are still sticking to people who have firm experience and who aren't aimless fuck ups.

It takes a lot to actually lose money on any associate, but 750 hours might do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31452003)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 4:53 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

semi lockstep, although it is very much based on skills, and we hired a few 10th year lawyers with 3rd year transactional experience, and paid them like 3rd years. Neither worked out, so we won't be doing that again.

We decide to pay the person described above (40 yr old with junior skills) based on experience.

We paid her $140k, which is what we'd normally pay a 3rd year.

Yes, we mostly stick to those people...the couple of times we've done differently when we were desperate for anyone we get burned....granted some of these people have great pedigrees, Harvard and Stanford, but jumped around a lot between lit and transactional and random jobs, and clearly there was a reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31453246)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 7:20 PM
Author: Ungodly lay

re: the ppl who "jumped around a lot between lit and transactional"

were they mostly ppl who started in transactional then figured they could do lit? i've never really contemplated doing the opposite (lit to transactional).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31454083)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:39 PM
Author: Gay soul-stirring indian lodge

i feel bad for her but would feel worse if she was some eager 20-something just struggling with a steep learning curve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31451940)



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Date: September 20th, 2016 1:48 PM
Author: indecent stage

This. I would have serious trouble firing someone enthusiastic that was struggling. But firing someone who obviously just dgaf is much easier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31452002)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 4:11 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

fuck, now I have to give her a bunch of work to do knowing that we have to fire her...feel so guilty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31461067)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 4:15 PM
Author: effete mexican mediation

it's a kindness to her that you feel so guilty

allow some anger to seep in; if she were more competent, your gentle soul would be less anguished

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31461112)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

I am not a very angry person. I have a lot/way too much empathy. It is probably why I'm not more successful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31461158)



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Date: September 21st, 2016 4:21 PM
Author: effete mexican mediation

they haven't ruined you yet; stay strong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31461164)



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Date: September 26th, 2016 10:10 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

Wow. She quit on her own. How fortuitous!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31499891)



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Date: September 27th, 2016 10:30 AM
Author: Fighting Irradiated Degenerate

Details ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31504362)



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Date: September 27th, 2016 9:50 PM
Author: Laughsome Knife

just found out that she got a job in biglaw with a really good firm. Ho lee fuk, they are going to be in for a rude awakening unless they are hiring her as a junior associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31509072)



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Date: September 27th, 2016 10:35 AM
Author: contagious site

She read this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3357834&forum_id=2#31504379)