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should i quit my $75k shitlaw gig for this sales gig (hourly + commission)
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:09 PM Author: Lavender stage $15/hr + $200 commission for each client that I bring in. The average sales rep brings in 1 client per day. And there is room for growth in this gig.
Currently, I work 50-60 hours per day at shitlaw and I deal w terrible, terrible people.
I'm only 27-29 years old.
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:09 PM Author: Flatulent judgmental water buffalo Lmao poor ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696983) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:10 PM Author: Lavender stage pls advice, counsel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696994) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:10 PM Author: grizzly razzle pit Go out with a bang. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31696991) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:13 PM Author: Lavender stage ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697014) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:26 PM Author: Laughsome wagecucks *fwds thread to rbi* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705193) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:49 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697284) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:54 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697331) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 12:58 PM Author: brindle resort What industry? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697373) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:07 PM Author: Lavender stage real estate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697463) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:08 PM Author: brindle resort Why not just become real estate agent / broker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697474) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:14 PM Author: Lavender stage that's my goal. they said they will need real estate agents w license once their firm starts to grow since it only started a couple months ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697530) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:18 PM Author: brindle resort In m any states you can become a licenced broker very easily if you're an attorney. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697578) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:20 PM Author: Lavender stage i don't know how to get clients tho... that's why i'm interested in this job since they provide the training to get clients. i figure once i master the art of cold calling, prospecting, closing at this place, then becoming licensed broker will be much more reasonable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697609) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:21 PM Author: brindle resort CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697615) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:26 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31698101) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:02 PM Author: Bronze athletic conference You can be trained and conditioned to do all of those things. But if you are already doing all of those things in your day to day life (but calling them something else), the training only has limited utility. Everything is sales. If you don't, you will hit a ceiling and be wasting your time. Some people are closers. Others are not. If you have any doubt that you are a closer, my guess is you are not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726780) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:12 PM Author: Lavender stage You don't make any sense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726864) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:17 PM Author: Bronze athletic conference You close with women, in social situations, when convincing a cop not to write you a ticket... You probably close even in shitlaw. If you can't close now, you probably will never be able to close consistently. Some of it is luck. Some people even make their own luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726915) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:19 PM Author: Lavender stage You sound like you've never been in sales cause you simply spit out platitudes about sales that you probably learned from the YouTube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726937) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:21 PM Author: Bronze athletic conference I was in sales. I sold enterprise CRM. Carried a $750k quota I never met. I made 50 to 100 cold calls a day. Gave about three product demos a day. And did my follow ups. I usually worked from 8 am to 7 pm every day of the week, except weekends. I lasted two years. I am not a closer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726955) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:25 PM Author: Lavender stage 50 to 100 cold calls is very little ... I made 200+ per day while working for an SEO company 7am-4pm ... You probably don't sound confident on the phone or you were too slow to respond to a prospect's objections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726989) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:29 PM Author: Bronze athletic conference Lol are you in Banglore or something. IDK what my problem was. Mostly I didn't believe in the product/the company. I felt bad when I closed a deal because I just fucked someone over really hard and I knew the implementation team would come knocking on my door after I sold vaporware. Glad that shit is over. Anyway, the job you are considering sounds bad. Just get law firm clients instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727020) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:33 PM Author: Lavender stage Why should you feel bad that you fucked over a prospect? Your job is to sell; their job is to buy. You did your job better than them. If they had the chance to fuck over the salesman on the deal, you don't think they'd do it? Of course they will. If the prospect feels like they got screwed, they're idiots. The prospect has absolute control. They can leave, hang up, any time.
And why is the job in the OP bad? |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:01 PM Author: hairless senate kitty cat is this for an in-patient drug rehab facility? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697410) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:07 PM Author: Lavender stage no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697464) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:22 PM Author: angry step-uncle's house love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31698057) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:02 PM Author: Deep newt Do both at the same time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697418) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:16 PM Author: Lavender stage lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697560) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:08 PM Author: fear-inspiring becky rehab If you run the #s it's about a $10,000 difference, if all your assumptions remain true. And I'm guessing you're overly optimistic in at least some places (or what's being represented to you about # of commissions on average is somewhat overly optimistic) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697469) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:18 PM Author: Lavender stage so worth it or not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697585) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:21 PM Author: Cobalt Disrespectful Stage Personal Credit Line If you're good at sales take a look at Primerica.
It's a MLM but one of the more legit ones and you sell insurance and financial products to losers/old people. |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:29 PM Author: Lavender stage "As of 2016, it reported 107,000 independent representatives." -- from wiki
ehhh fuck that... if i were to do an MLM i would want to do one that just started out. |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:35 PM Author: Primrose infuriating forum dopamine Also lYou either have a sales personality or you don't. A lot of that is dealing with people - not just in a "networking" capacity, but actually getting people to sign on the dotted line -- and rainmaking.
Lawyers go into sales because they think they can game the "metrics" portion of it - make X number of cold calls in a given day to potential clients (or whatever), and some of these will land. Grunt work is a lot of it, but there are a lot of hardworking salesmen who can't crack $100k/year.
In my experience, lawyers are usually very good at selling to existing clients, or to potential clients that someone else identified. They are terrible at identifying the potential clients in the first place. If this sales company just wants you to go to their database of existing and former and potential clients and sell to them, you could make $.
But if you need to actually go out and rainmake - you could be in a world of pain if you don't have a pre-existing network set up that you can tap into.
Also look at positioning - does the company have a strong enough industry name that people will listen to its sales reps, i.e. can a bum off the street read a basic script and still close deals based on the strength of the company and product?
Also, is the base salary a true base, or is it a "draw" that you have to pay back from commissions? If it's the latter - that's a very easy way to go broke while you continue to fish for the great white whale. |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 1:41 PM Author: Rusted persian filthpig the person telling you about this opportunity is lying to you. the hours will be worse and the pay even shittier, unless you happen to be insanely talented. most places that hire low-level sales people try to lure as many in with promises of high income potential and then weed out all the mediocre performers(the vast majority). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31697789) |
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Date: October 21st, 2016 2:20 PM Author: Lavender stage that's just sales, bro. You have to prove that you can sell otherwise what's the point of you staying there? if i can sell w them, then id have more leeway w pay & hours. if i cant sell, then im out.
all top sales bros start off like this. you expect a company to pay you top dollar in a high-ranking position simply b/c of your degree and experience? LJL bro. sell or be sold. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:26 PM Author: Laughsome wagecucks (Guy who worked for AT&T) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705195) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 10:51 AM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31702794) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 11:37 AM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703008) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 11:44 AM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703027) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:01 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703066) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:41 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703209) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:53 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703258) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 12:55 PM Author: violent amber sweet tailpipe Looks like you have made up your mind. Go forth and sell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703272) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 1:04 PM Author: bearded lascivious chapel round eye But but but sunk cost fallacy. ...
Eh, lawyer still gets more respect than salesman. Maybe not much, but some. |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 8:59 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31726756) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 2:16 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31703688) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:09 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705067) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2016 6:32 PM Author: diverse transparent church building Do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31705239) |
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Date: October 24th, 2016 7:44 PM Author: Lavender stage I GOT THE JOB:) !!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31718294) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:40 PM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727144) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 9:47 PM Author: mentally impaired hairy legs What are you selling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31727227) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 8:31 AM Author: Lavender stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3394606&forum_id=2#31729480) |