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How do you tell an associate to pad their time without saying it?
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:42 PM Author: mentally impaired flushed preventive strike cruise ship It is clear we have an associate who is using a timer, and accordingly, her time is about 30% lower than it would normally be. How do I get her to stop doing that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723168) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM Author: Misunderstood multi-colored mother Give her an assignment and tell her to be very thorough and that if she has to reread and edit her brief 3 times to be thorough that's OK and that the client is not concerned about costs as much as thoroughness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723229) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM Author: mentally impaired flushed preventive strike cruise ship I've told her that the client doesn't care about costs and just wants to everything diligenced as much as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723291) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:21 PM Author: Contagious site "everything diligenced as much as possible." Lol tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727953) |
Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM Author: Territorial Marvelous Ticket Booth Sweet Tailpipe juice her hours on your end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723173) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM Author: passionate citrine foreskin (managing partner at Bendini, Lambert & Locke) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723207) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM Author: Cerebral Principal's Office Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723293) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:55 PM Author: silver sticky box office My boss does this on occasion. He will also lecture me on "losing time" and undervaluing my work product. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732801) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: Curious skinny woman That lecture sounds like a pretty effective way to do what OP's asking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732825) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 5:02 PM Author: silver sticky box office Yes but he already knows I'm ok with it and I know what he's saying. The OP's associate might take it to mean she isn't billing effectively enough and become even more married to the timer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732835) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM Author: Wild jet-lagged organic girlfriend Ask her to be very thorough on this assignment. Ask her to triple check her work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723176) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:05 PM Author: Claret Excitant Temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723711) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:26 PM Author: Adventurous slimy locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727990) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:17 PM Author: comical stage weed whacker if she is the type of person who uses a timer she isn't going to catch onto this. she will probably literally triple check her work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071002) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM Author: Autistic Garnet Gaming Laptop Public Bath Tell her to be very thorough, make sure she covers all bases, client is not cost conscious, etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723181) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:44 PM Author: Pearl stock car "Are you sure that you're recording all your time for this? Some of your time seems a bit lower than I would expect for these tasks. Your efficiency is great, but please make sure that you're not cheating yourself! I want to make sure that you're getting credit for all of your great work on this." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723184) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM Author: yellow crotch ceo solid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723205) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM Author: violent bull headed den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723224) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 3:52 PM Author: Duck-like Heady Area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31724649) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:54 PM Author: Khaki clown yarmulke CR. Also approach it from the other angle: "I'm going to take a look at our utilization rate at the end of the month. If it turns out we have the capacity, I'd like for us to write a business development article on (mind-numbingly arcane topic) with (nightmare partner)."
It will quickly develop that you don't have the capacity. |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:09 PM Author: Slate state roast beef she sounds really obtuse though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723763) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:01 PM Author: Swashbuckling cobalt fat ankles address This is the correct answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723685) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:19 PM Author: Violent Tanning Salon Cuck CR. I might follow that up with a specific reminder that a timer is a great tool, but might not always capture all the time spent working on an assignment, and so she should be sure to make the appropriate adjustments. Then wink really slowly and deliberately with one eye. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723854) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:18 PM Author: comical stage weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071010) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 3:53 PM Author: Duck-like Heady Area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31724653) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:25 PM Author: big spruce sanctuary main people CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727983) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:25 PM Author: Soggy 180 Prole Athletic Conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727984) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:45 PM Author: Underhanded hilarious point stain you just say it. stop beating around the bush! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723191) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:46 PM Author: Odious sickened crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723198) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:50 PM Author: pea-brained free-loading queen of the night newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723220) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:52 PM Author: Misunderstood multi-colored mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723232) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:02 PM Author: avocado regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723692) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:15 PM Author: Slate state roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723825) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:19 PM Author: Violent Tanning Salon Cuck Also CR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723860) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:27 PM Author: Adventurous slimy locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727996) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:46 PM Author: coral azn friendly grandma Lol, just steal her unbilled hours for yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723199) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:49 PM Author: passionate citrine foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723213) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:48 PM Author: Buff Very Tactful Dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070721) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:47 PM Author: passionate citrine foreskin Start by discussing "gray areas" of billing and how the associate should resolve these gray areas in favor of billing more. The classic example of this is rounding up. Once the associate acknowledges the propriety of this, move on to double billing during travel. When you are confident the associate is on board with this, introduce the concept of "billing the product" when you reuse work product from other cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723202) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 12:52 AM Author: Soggy 180 Prole Athletic Conference love it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728561) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM Author: impressive institution electric furnace "you're clearly misusing your timer and not being diligent in recording your work. such deficiencies could lead the client to question our billing due to your negligence. please record ALL your time. we assume this is the only and last time this topic will be mentioned. Thanks :)" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723210) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM Author: violent bull headed den lol @ law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723228) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM Author: yellow crotch ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723296) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:27 PM Author: Adventurous slimy locale Really shameful tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728002) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:04 PM Author: yellow crotch ceo serious q: who the fuck uses a timer when billing? jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723303) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:06 PM Author: Cream haunted graveyard 1st year retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723317) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:07 PM Author: yellow crotch ceo the thought makes me want to vomit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723322) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:08 PM Author: Cream haunted graveyard It does, but on the other end I've been getting pretty reckless about estimating my time. I'm gonna get got if I keep being sloppy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723330) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:16 PM Author: Slate state roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723829) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 1:44 AM Author: white racy marketing idea meetinghouse Do most associates not use their timers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728709) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:07 PM Author: Cream haunted graveyard Just take the bill and go over each entry. Increase some entries and if she asks why you just say "thats how long it should take" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723324) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:06 PM Author: buck-toothed chad send him an email (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723723) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:07 PM Author: geriatric deer antler "BUFFER" great term to incorporate into your everyday lexicon.
Example: "I spent around 1 hr. traveling and reviewing docs with client, with a 30 minute buffer because the lady at Starbucks had an IBS attack" |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:07 PM Author: supple hyperventilating lodge work carefully. client is not cost sensitive and wants us to be very thorough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723743) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:09 PM Author: Slate state roast beef jfc. tell her not to use a timer and to try recalling how much time she spent on the work at the end of the day. keep track During the day merely of the things she did, not how much time she spent on them.
You know she's gonna get that out to 8 hours that way |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:14 PM Author: Floppy national "be fair to yourself when recording time" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723818) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:23 PM Author: Maize razzle dragon "index" time spent on the matter by just upping the price by some factor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727967) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:24 PM Author: chartreuse property nowag mention how everyone else does it: make it up on the 30th (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727972) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:29 PM Author: Sepia genital piercing juggernaut Padding seems a lot easier in lit.
Girls generally underbill |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 2:06 AM Author: aromatic liquid oxygen spot Take her stupid timer away for starters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728768) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:57 PM Author: boyish onyx mad cow disease brethren A timer can be useful and is not counter to padding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732810) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 5:20 PM Author: outnumbered milk volcanic crater i'm currently picturing a mousy 20something in an ill-fitting pantsuit literally hitting a chess clock every 6 minutes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732911) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:57 PM Author: avocado regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070818) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:47 PM Author: dull painfully honest business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070711) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:14 PM Author: turquoise incel base "Look, I'm not telling you to pad your time, all right? I'm just saying..." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070982) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:45 PM Author: Slate state roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071282) |