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How do you tell an associate to pad their time without saying it?
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:42 PM Author: emerald learning disabled rehab It is clear we have an associate who is using a timer, and accordingly, her time is about 30% lower than it would normally be. How do I get her to stop doing that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723168) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM Author: Orange sickened center blood rage Give her an assignment and tell her to be very thorough and that if she has to reread and edit her brief 3 times to be thorough that's OK and that the client is not concerned about costs as much as thoroughness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723229) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM Author: emerald learning disabled rehab I've told her that the client doesn't care about costs and just wants to everything diligenced as much as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723291) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:21 PM Author: Idiotic state "everything diligenced as much as possible." Lol tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727953) |
Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM Author: cobalt fragrant wrinkle sandwich juice her hours on your end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723173) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM Author: Spectacular jew resort (managing partner at Bendini, Lambert & Locke) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723207) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM Author: Stimulating parlor indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723293) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:55 PM Author: Drab police squad coffee pot My boss does this on occasion. He will also lecture me on "losing time" and undervaluing my work product. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732801) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: Provocative Sick Weed Whacker That lecture sounds like a pretty effective way to do what OP's asking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732825) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 5:02 PM Author: Drab police squad coffee pot Yes but he already knows I'm ok with it and I know what he's saying. The OP's associate might take it to mean she isn't billing effectively enough and become even more married to the timer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732835) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM Author: Motley greedy depressive casino Ask her to be very thorough on this assignment. Ask her to triple check her work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723176) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:05 PM Author: Erotic charismatic philosopher-king dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723711) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:26 PM Author: Curious brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727990) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:17 PM Author: Histrionic territorial national if she is the type of person who uses a timer she isn't going to catch onto this. she will probably literally triple check her work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071002) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:43 PM Author: Translucent heady messiness headpube Tell her to be very thorough, make sure she covers all bases, client is not cost conscious, etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723181) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:44 PM Author: Flatulent Chrome Persian "Are you sure that you're recording all your time for this? Some of your time seems a bit lower than I would expect for these tasks. Your efficiency is great, but please make sure that you're not cheating yourself! I want to make sure that you're getting credit for all of your great work on this." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723184) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM Author: buck-toothed institution solid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723205) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM Author: Milky concupiscible school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723224) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 3:52 PM Author: Floppy Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31724649) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:54 PM Author: drunken jet-lagged idiot CR. Also approach it from the other angle: "I'm going to take a look at our utilization rate at the end of the month. If it turns out we have the capacity, I'd like for us to write a business development article on (mind-numbingly arcane topic) with (nightmare partner)."
It will quickly develop that you don't have the capacity. |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:09 PM Author: Lake trip coldplay fan corner she sounds really obtuse though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723763) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:01 PM Author: garnet half-breed university This is the correct answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723685) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:19 PM Author: nofapping lay CR. I might follow that up with a specific reminder that a timer is a great tool, but might not always capture all the time spent working on an assignment, and so she should be sure to make the appropriate adjustments. Then wink really slowly and deliberately with one eye. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723854) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:18 PM Author: Histrionic territorial national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32071010) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 3:53 PM Author: Floppy Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31724653) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:25 PM Author: Cerebral Address Friendly Grandma CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727983) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:25 PM Author: unholy cocky plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727984) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:45 PM Author: Adventurous french chef you just say it. stop beating around the bush! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723191) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:46 PM Author: Rough-skinned cheese-eating office affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723198) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:50 PM Author: Impertinent cruise ship potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723220) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:52 PM Author: Orange sickened center blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723232) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:02 PM Author: exhilarant piazza electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723692) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:15 PM Author: Lake trip coldplay fan corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723825) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:19 PM Author: nofapping lay Also CR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723860) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:27 PM Author: Curious brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727996) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:46 PM Author: Yellow dopamine gas station Lol, just steal her unbilled hours for yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723199) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:49 PM Author: Spectacular jew resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723213) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:48 PM Author: Laughsome dun hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070721) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:47 PM Author: Spectacular jew resort Start by discussing "gray areas" of billing and how the associate should resolve these gray areas in favor of billing more. The classic example of this is rounding up. Once the associate acknowledges the propriety of this, move on to double billing during travel. When you are confident the associate is on board with this, introduce the concept of "billing the product" when you reuse work product from other cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723202) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 12:52 AM Author: unholy cocky plaza love it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728561) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:48 PM Author: Aqua beta voyeur "you're clearly misusing your timer and not being diligent in recording your work. such deficiencies could lead the client to question our billing due to your negligence. please record ALL your time. we assume this is the only and last time this topic will be mentioned. Thanks :)" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723210) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 12:51 PM Author: Milky concupiscible school cafeteria lol @ law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723228) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:03 PM Author: buck-toothed institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723296) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:27 PM Author: Curious brethren Really shameful tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728002) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:04 PM Author: buck-toothed institution serious q: who the fuck uses a timer when billing? jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723303) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:06 PM Author: Magical bawdyhouse black woman 1st year retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723317) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:07 PM Author: buck-toothed institution the thought makes me want to vomit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723322) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:08 PM Author: Magical bawdyhouse black woman It does, but on the other end I've been getting pretty reckless about estimating my time. I'm gonna get got if I keep being sloppy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723330) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:16 PM Author: Lake trip coldplay fan corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723829) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 1:44 AM Author: Vivacious amethyst filthpig Do most associates not use their timers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728709) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 1:07 PM Author: Magical bawdyhouse black woman Just take the bill and go over each entry. Increase some entries and if she asks why you just say "thats how long it should take" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723324) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:06 PM Author: shimmering menage send him an email (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723723) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:07 PM Author: Ivory slippery point "BUFFER" great term to incorporate into your everyday lexicon.
Example: "I spent around 1 hr. traveling and reviewing docs with client, with a 30 minute buffer because the lady at Starbucks had an IBS attack" |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:07 PM Author: startling federal church building work carefully. client is not cost sensitive and wants us to be very thorough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723743) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:09 PM Author: Lake trip coldplay fan corner jfc. tell her not to use a timer and to try recalling how much time she spent on the work at the end of the day. keep track During the day merely of the things she did, not how much time she spent on them.
You know she's gonna get that out to 8 hours that way |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 2:14 PM Author: Odious Insane Temple "be fair to yourself when recording time" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31723818) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:23 PM Author: Ungodly windowlicker "index" time spent on the matter by just upping the price by some factor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727967) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:24 PM Author: transparent principal's office mention how everyone else does it: make it up on the 30th (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31727972) |
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Date: October 25th, 2016 11:29 PM Author: Arousing thirsty knife striped hyena Padding seems a lot easier in lit.
Girls generally underbill |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 2:06 AM Author: sooty stage jap Take her stupid timer away for starters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31728768) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 4:57 PM Author: shaky wagecucks genital piercing A timer can be useful and is not counter to padding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732810) |
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Date: October 26th, 2016 5:20 PM Author: twinkling public bath roast beef i'm currently picturing a mousy 20something in an ill-fitting pantsuit literally hitting a chess clock every 6 minutes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#31732911) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 3:47 PM Author: flesh spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070711) |
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Date: December 6th, 2016 4:14 PM Author: Self-absorbed brindle dragon "Look, I'm not telling you to pad your time, all right? I'm just saying..." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3398363&forum_id=2#32070982) |
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