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Self-made millionaire: Don't put money in your 401(k) [ARTICLE]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/self-made-millionaire-don...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
Always motivating seeing dumb rich people
Nofapping Heady Headpube
  10/27/16
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Flatulent peach temple sound barrier
  10/27/16
It's smart to save in a 401k?
claret brethren
  10/27/16
Just do listen to lottery winners for their tips to becoming...
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sooty gas station
  10/27/16
Grant Cardone earned his millions from doing sales. He knows...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
i dont have any matching so not an issue for me.
Nofapping Heady Headpube
  10/27/16
Tax benefits are pretty big (plus obviously matching if you ...
passionate field
  10/27/16
CR. Paying off my loans first
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  10/27/16
Stopped reading at "swimming" in 40k debt
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if you don't touch your 100k during an emergency, and it's n...
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  10/27/16
It's dumb to put your money in 401k but stick it in a saving...
Transparent location circlehead
  10/27/16
Until you reach $100k, then you can invest it in things that...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
Doesn't sound like he's trusting his ability to EARN!
Transparent location circlehead
  10/27/16
what an idiot. lol.
passionate field
  10/27/16
Explain?
claret brethren
  10/27/16
A 401k is valuable for someone who doesn't have millions of ...
passionate field
  10/27/16
You low-IQ? The whole point of the article is that putting m...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
care to elaborate on "investing in things that produce ...
passionate field
  10/27/16
Investing in small businesses Apartment complexes Buy...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
or seeing as how the average person struggling to save a mil...
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  10/28/16
buy rental property, fairly easy
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claret brethren
  10/27/16
don't get a match and put your money in a 401(k) where you c...
Cerebral Red Goal In Life
  10/27/16
what about the tax deduction?
passionate field
  10/27/16
yeah i was mocking his suggestion
Cerebral Red Goal In Life
  10/27/16
Grant Cardone encourages investing in things that produce re...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
ITT: risk averse queers who have zero entrepreneurial abilit...
Irate principal's office trump supporter
  10/27/16
Hence why they're lawyers. They think 401ks are cr cause it ...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
Exactly. Just do give your money away to someone else and wa...
Irate principal's office trump supporter
  10/27/16
That's why the saying, "A students will work for C stud...
claret brethren
  10/27/16
Silicon Valley is run by morons, and a valedictorian just cl...
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(Idiot)
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  10/27/16
Got anything else from your book of prole proverbs?
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  10/28/16
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  10/27/16
Describe the world where putting $ into a 401k is somehow at...
Transparent location circlehead
  10/27/16
If it's either or then you should bet on yourself. Sure 401 ...
Irate principal's office trump supporter
  10/27/16
The only people maxing 401k like that have an excess of $ al...
Transparent location circlehead
  10/27/16
Very few companies match. The OP wasn't talking to biglolyer...
Irate principal's office trump supporter
  10/27/16
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claret brethren
  10/27/16
Most largish companies provide some matching... It's law fir...
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  10/27/16
I'd imagine it's not too many people who have that set up. M...
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claret brethren
  10/27/16
"That's the type of guy who should use the 20k" u...
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  10/28/16
Gotta spend money to make money
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  10/27/16
This is 100% cr. Never give your money to Uncle Moshe unless...
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  10/27/16
Uncle Shmuel
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ITT: fact-free analysis performed by idiots. The best boo...
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  10/27/16
(Wage-slave dork, stirring at his cubicle)
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  10/27/16
Lol, I actually buy failing small companies from idiots for ...
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  10/27/16
net worth?
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This is "CUT UP UR CREDIT CARDS!!"-level advice th...
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(Guy who will never be a millionaire)
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claret brethren
  10/27/16
There is a (risky) hybrid path: Dump money into 401(k), then...
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  10/28/16
$350k at 37 years-old is a long ways away from 1 million
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  10/28/16
(lil bro who doesn't understand compounding interest)
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$350k at 37 years-old is shit. who cares if you got 1 mil...
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  10/28/16
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  10/28/16
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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:51 PM
Author: claret brethren

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/self-made-millionaire-dont-put-161146781.html

After graduating from college, Grant Cardone was broke and swimming in $40,000 of student debt, he writes in his new book, "Be Obsessed Or Be Average."

By 30, he'd made his first million. Since then, the 58-year-old has built five companies and a multi-million dollar fortune.

The self-made millionaire refuses to play by anyone else's rules, particularly when it comes to saving money.

"I would never, ever invest money in a 401(k)," Cardone tells CNBC. "Why would I go to work, have my employer give me another $6,000 a year, and then take that money and send it off to Wall Street, where I can't even touch it for 30 years? I wouldn't do that."

The popular retirement plans are "traps that prevent people from ever having enough," Cardone writes on his website. "The 401(k) is merely where you kiss your money away for 40 years hoping it grows up."

Rather than focusing on saving, focus on earning — you can't save your way to millionaire status, he says.

"Wall Street is telling you to invest little bits, early. They don't believe in your ability to earn money," Cardone tells CNBC. "People need to show the ability to produce more revenue — not invest it — first. People get rich because they produce revenue, not because they make little investments over time."

And don't just focus on earning — focus on earning big, says Cardone. "Keep stacking that paper until you have a hundred grand in the bank. I know this is very unrealistic for a lot of people, but the reason it's unrealistic is because you've been conditioned to think small."

Grant is promoting saving the money you earn, but counter to most advice, he says to put the money in a good old-fashioned savings account — where your money is accessible at a moment's notice — until you have at least $100,000. Then, you can start investing.

"Put your saved money into secured, sacred (untouchable) accounts," he writes on Entrepreneur. "Never use these accounts for anything, not even an emergency. ... To this day, at least twice a year, I am broke because I always invest my surpluses into ventures I cannot access."

It's important to note that the median retirement savings for all families in the U.S . is just $5,000, and the median for families with some savings is $60,000, according to the Economic Policy Institute (EPI). And many families have zero saved. Employer-sponsored retirement plans are meant to help address this and are a good option for many people. But of course, to Grant's point, they won't help you get rich quickly or invest in opportunities today.

He's not the only self-made millionaire to encourage this kind of thinking. After studying wealthy people for more than 25 years, self-made millionaire Steve Siebold found that rich people set their expectations high and aren't afraid to think big.

After all, as he writes in "How Rich People Think," "No one would ever strike it rich and live their dreams without huge expectations."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740261)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:53 PM
Author: Nofapping Heady Headpube

Always motivating seeing dumb rich people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740281)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:54 PM
Author: Flatulent peach temple sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740293)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: claret brethren

It's smart to save in a 401k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740302)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: vivacious fuchsia sneaky criminal theater

Just do listen to lottery winners for their tips to becoming rich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740315)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: sooty gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740328)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: claret brethren

Grant Cardone earned his millions from doing sales. He knows a thing or two, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740347)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: Nofapping Heady Headpube

i dont have any matching so not an issue for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740320)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:59 PM
Author: passionate field

Tax benefits are pretty big (plus obviously matching if you have it.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740337)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: spruce trip psychic

CR. Paying off my loans first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740325)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: Transparent location circlehead

Stopped reading at "swimming" in 40k debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740327)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: Odious high-end university milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740407)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:53 PM
Author: cordovan diverse alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740645)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:06 PM
Author: Razzle sanctuary yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744412)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: Bespoke old irish cottage institution

if you don't touch your 100k during an emergency, and it's not earning money, then what the fuck is it doing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740330)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:01 PM
Author: Transparent location circlehead

It's dumb to put your money in 401k but stick it in a savings account earning 0.1% interest and don't touch it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740356)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: claret brethren

Until you reach $100k, then you can invest it in things that produce income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740370)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: Transparent location circlehead

Doesn't sound like he's trusting his ability to EARN!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740405)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: passionate field

what an idiot. lol.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740332)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: claret brethren

Explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740351)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: passionate field

A 401k is valuable for someone who doesn't have millions of dollars. The benefits outweigh the drawbacks of not having access to that money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740368)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:04 PM
Author: claret brethren

You low-IQ? The whole point of the article is that putting money in 401k won't help most ppl earn millions. Saving money into savings account, reaching $100k, and then investing in things that produce income is always cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740388)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: passionate field

care to elaborate on "investing in things that produce income?" You believe the average person has the ability to get a better return on their investment then what they'll get in the market over 30 years + the benefit of matching if that's there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740406)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:10 PM
Author: claret brethren

Investing in small businesses

Apartment complexes

Buying & renovating fix er upper homes and selling them for a profit

Buying cars, fixing them, selling them at a profit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740427)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:46 PM
Author: impressive dun rigpig genital piercing

or seeing as how the average person struggling to save a million dollars over a lifetime is likely too dumb to understand the real estate market, they could just start on day 1 by putting their money in REITs rather than trying to pwn the market themselves

like why do you think you need 100K to invest in apartment complexes LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744678)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:11 PM
Author: glassy mildly autistic wagecucks fortuitous meteor

buy rental property, fairly easy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740434)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:13 PM
Author: claret brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740442)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: Cerebral Red Goal In Life

don't get a match and put your money in a 401(k) where you can't touch it for decades, instead just invest your money where you can't touch it for decades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740348)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: passionate field

what about the tax deduction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740354)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:10 PM
Author: Cerebral Red Goal In Life

yeah i was mocking his suggestion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740428)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: claret brethren

Grant Cardone encourages investing in things that produce revenue. How is that dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740364)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: Irate principal's office trump supporter

ITT: risk averse queers who have zero entrepreneurial ability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740404)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:11 PM
Author: claret brethren

Hence why they're lawyers. They think 401ks are cr cause it "seems like the reasonable thing to do!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740431)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:14 PM
Author: Irate principal's office trump supporter

Exactly. Just do give your money away to someone else and wait 30 fucking years to get it back. Jfc take the money and buy an apt complex or open a paving company or some shit. 401k is best way to gUrantee you'll be a wage slave forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740452)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:17 PM
Author: claret brethren

That's why the saying, "A students will work for C students" is true. A students are risk-averse pussys who rarely create companies or businesses that produce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740469)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:47 PM
Author: Effete cerise legend messiness

Silicon Valley is run by morons, and a valedictorian just cleaned my pool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740615)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: Lascivious plum toilet seat haunted graveyard



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:57 PM
Author: claret brethren

(Idiot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740682)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 3:56 AM
Author: Effete cerise legend messiness

Got anything else from your book of prole proverbs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31743027)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: Lascivious plum toilet seat haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740625)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:14 PM
Author: Transparent location circlehead

Describe the world where putting $ into a 401k is somehow at odds with being entrepreneurial (other than, you know, working a job where you actually have a 401k).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740449)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:17 PM
Author: Irate principal's office trump supporter

If it's either or then you should bet on yourself. Sure 401 cr if you have loads chillin and you need a tax break. But ljfl at pussies socking away 18k a year when that's all of their investable income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740472)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:19 PM
Author: Transparent location circlehead

The only people maxing 401k like that have an excess of $ already. Most people just do it up to what their company will match.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740482)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:22 PM
Author: Irate principal's office trump supporter

Very few companies match. The OP wasn't talking to biglolyers he was talking to average joe cumskin. That's the type of guy who should use the 20k to get a decent plumbing van and start hustling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740505)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:22 PM
Author: claret brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740509)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:23 PM
Author: Transparent location circlehead

Most largish companies provide some matching... It's law firms that don't even offer 401ks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740512)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:25 PM
Author: Irate principal's office trump supporter

I'd imagine it's not too many people who have that set up. Most jobs are small businesses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740518)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:27 PM
Author: claret brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740524)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: impressive dun rigpig genital piercing

"That's the type of guy who should use the 20k"

uh avg joe cumskin is struggling to even put 6K into his 401K, but great job guy-in-OP for encouraging people to literally put their money in a bank account drawing almost 0% interest for seventeen years before using it to make money!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744703)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:37 PM
Author: Rebellious Hyperactive Candlestick Maker

Gotta spend money to make money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740565)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:25 PM
Author: Boyish Clear Tank

This is 100% cr. Never give your money to Uncle Moshe unless it's attached to a string tied to your wrist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740517)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:35 PM
Author: splenetic confused karate useless brakes

Uncle Shmuel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744576)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:30 PM
Author: Adventurous Background Story

ITT: fact-free analysis performed by idiots.

The best books that I have seen that actually study millionaires as a group are those of the Millionaire Next Door series. Of those, the best that I have read is Stop Acting Rich. One point that the author makes, in contrast to this guy, is that playing defense (saving and investing carefully) is just as important as playing offense (generating revenue).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740532)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:33 PM
Author: claret brethren

(Wage-slave dork, stirring at his cubicle)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740544)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:34 PM
Author: Adventurous Background Story

Lol, I actually buy failing small companies from idiots for pennies on the dollar. Hit me up when you're ready to sell yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740553)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:52 PM
Author: Copper home

net worth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740643)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: purple bull headed spot water buffalo

no, offense is more important

both are important, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744696)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:50 PM
Author: impressive dun rigpig genital piercing

(2010 Texas to 2010 Alabama)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744716)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:27 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy address becky

Moronic thread and obvious CR.

Is it bad to get an immediate 100% return on your investment if it's locked up for years afterward in a relatively low risk vehicle?

The reason most non-rich people don't have more investment income is because they spend too much of their income on expenses that are avoidable. You may decide you have to live in that nicer house in that better neighborhood because of the schools, etc., and that your kids need summer camps, enriching afterschool programs, memorable vacations and extravagant birthdays so that they are confident that you love them and prioritize their needs. But you're also deprioritizing your ability to have more black in your household budget, which means less ability to invest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745739)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:33 PM
Author: White federal organic girlfriend knife

This is "CUT UP UR CREDIT CARDS!!"-level advice that only applies to poors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740546)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:38 PM
Author: claret brethren

(Guy who will never be a millionaire)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740567)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:36 PM
Author: Rebellious Hyperactive Candlestick Maker

He's a hundo percent correct on his thesis but skips over a big point: you have to be willing to take risks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740563)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:50 PM
Author: Lascivious plum toilet seat haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740631)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:52 PM
Author: Lascivious plum toilet seat haunted graveyard

Don't worry just let Uncle Schlmo take care of this for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740639)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:57 PM
Author: claret brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740685)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 8:08 PM
Author: Khaki chapel corn cake

There is a (risky) hybrid path: Dump money into 401(k), then draw a loan out of the 401(k) when you come across an investment/business opportunity.

Gets you your tax advantage and preserves some capital flexibility.

Dangerous though. Defaulting on 401(k) loans is LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740772)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 10:22 AM
Author: translucent theater stage

You are also double taxed on the interest you pay yourself on the loan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31743863)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:34 PM
Author: talented fiercely-loyal stock car

Not if you are using it to buy or improve a qualified residence. There are also breaks for education, business, or investment purposes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745807)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 8:16 PM
Author: Electric business firm

this advice applies to lawdorks like earl who are so busy escaping a tiny portion of pretax savings that they cant harness the intellectual horsepower they have to do something greater than work suburban midlaw. hes truly trapped in a prison of his own making and he doesnt even get the employer contribution implicit in the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740823)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 11:36 AM
Author: Lime police squad

Explain my wife joining the military at 22 and having appx 350k in her retirement 37

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744222)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:01 PM
Author: claret brethren

$350k at 37 years-old is a long ways away from 1 million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744378)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:09 PM
Author: Lime police squad

(lil bro who doesn't understand compounding interest)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744428)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: claret brethren

$350k at 37 years-old is shit.

who cares if you got 1 million by age 60. you're too old now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744441)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: comical school

Imagine what she could be doing now if she didnt give her money away. Could have started a business, invested directly into startup, bought rental property. Instead, the only thing she did was guarantee that she'll be a working stiff for another 20yrs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744443)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:19 PM
Author: claret brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744496)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:15 PM
Author: Exhilarant low-t prole

The article is cr for people wanting to be "millionaires" in the wealthy sense of the term, not "retiremillionaires." If someone wants to go all in and become rich then having your money sit somewhere is not the way to go. The focus is on speed, and wealth creation, not on stability and nestegg. So in that sense you need to go for something with a higher risk/reward than the 401k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744474)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:42 PM
Author: Lascivious plum toilet seat haunted graveyard

Get rich or die trying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744642)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Exhilarant low-t prole

working man's a sucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744668)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:46 PM
Author: Bespoke old irish cottage institution

my plan to be a millionaire, in the abstract, is:

step 1) build up your earning power to the point where you can earn at least 2-3x what it costs to survive at the poverty level. let's say the poverty level in your city is 35k. build up your earning power to at least 70k

step 2) spend 35k or less surviving

step 3) spend whatever money remains on risky ventures that can really explode if they are successful

repeat step 3 over and over for years until one of them explodes.

if you're right, you'll be lauded as a seer and will become a young millionaire. if you're wrong, you'll be penniless and mocked. but the good thing is that you only have to be right once.

in concrete terms, i am betting very big on bitcoin. irresponsibly big. if you ever hear about bitcoin collapsing to $0, you will know that i fucked up big time and continue to live a very meager lifestyle.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744679)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:56 PM
Author: claret brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744754)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: purple bull headed spot water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744707)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: impressive dun rigpig genital piercing

...how does this guy think you save 100K if 6K/yr is a lot of money to remove from your bank acct to put in a 401K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744665)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:20 PM
Author: Brindle scourge upon the earth

What if you are shielding income from ibr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745670)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:36 PM
Author: buff stage dingle berry

guy who wins lottery advises others to invest all their money on lottery tickets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745819)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 3:57 PM
Author: Brindle scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31746510)