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Self-made millionaire: Don't put money in your 401(k) [ARTICLE]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/self-made-millionaire-don...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Always motivating seeing dumb rich people
Infuriating jewess
  10/27/16
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Heady associate
  10/27/16
It's smart to save in a 401k?
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Just do listen to lottery winners for their tips to becoming...
low-t opaque gay wizard digit ratio
  10/27/16
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coral thriller preventive strike brethren
  10/27/16
Grant Cardone earned his millions from doing sales. He knows...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
i dont have any matching so not an issue for me.
Infuriating jewess
  10/27/16
Tax benefits are pretty big (plus obviously matching if you ...
Stimulating Boiling Water
  10/27/16
CR. Paying off my loans first
Topaz Locus Tank
  10/27/16
Stopped reading at "swimming" in 40k debt
180 hyperactive forum
  10/27/16
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  10/28/16
if you don't touch your 100k during an emergency, and it's n...
Sable sinister legend
  10/27/16
It's dumb to put your money in 401k but stick it in a saving...
180 hyperactive forum
  10/27/16
Until you reach $100k, then you can invest it in things that...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Doesn't sound like he's trusting his ability to EARN!
180 hyperactive forum
  10/27/16
what an idiot. lol.
Stimulating Boiling Water
  10/27/16
Explain?
Red den becky
  10/27/16
A 401k is valuable for someone who doesn't have millions of ...
Stimulating Boiling Water
  10/27/16
You low-IQ? The whole point of the article is that putting m...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
care to elaborate on "investing in things that produce ...
Stimulating Boiling Water
  10/27/16
Investing in small businesses Apartment complexes Buy...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
or seeing as how the average person struggling to save a mil...
exciting base
  10/28/16
buy rental property, fairly easy
Canary faggot firefighter
  10/27/16
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Red den becky
  10/27/16
don't get a match and put your money in a 401(k) where you c...
Green Concupiscible Black Woman Main People
  10/27/16
what about the tax deduction?
Stimulating Boiling Water
  10/27/16
yeah i was mocking his suggestion
Green Concupiscible Black Woman Main People
  10/27/16
Grant Cardone encourages investing in things that produce re...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
ITT: risk averse queers who have zero entrepreneurial abilit...
Bateful cruise ship
  10/27/16
Hence why they're lawyers. They think 401ks are cr cause it ...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Exactly. Just do give your money away to someone else and wa...
Bateful cruise ship
  10/27/16
That's why the saying, "A students will work for C stud...
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Silicon Valley is run by morons, and a valedictorian just cl...
vivacious hospital mad-dog skullcap
  10/27/16
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sepia friendly grandma
  10/27/16
(Idiot)
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Got anything else from your book of prole proverbs?
vivacious hospital mad-dog skullcap
  10/28/16
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sepia friendly grandma
  10/27/16
Describe the world where putting $ into a 401k is somehow at...
180 hyperactive forum
  10/27/16
If it's either or then you should bet on yourself. Sure 401 ...
Bateful cruise ship
  10/27/16
The only people maxing 401k like that have an excess of $ al...
180 hyperactive forum
  10/27/16
Very few companies match. The OP wasn't talking to biglolyer...
Bateful cruise ship
  10/27/16
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Red den becky
  10/27/16
Most largish companies provide some matching... It's law fir...
180 hyperactive forum
  10/27/16
I'd imagine it's not too many people who have that set up. M...
Bateful cruise ship
  10/27/16
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Red den becky
  10/27/16
"That's the type of guy who should use the 20k" u...
exciting base
  10/28/16
Gotta spend money to make money
Gay juggernaut
  10/27/16
This is 100% cr. Never give your money to Uncle Moshe unless...
Vibrant fortuitous meteor hall
  10/27/16
Uncle Shmuel
Lascivious Legal Warrant Tanning Salon
  10/28/16
ITT: fact-free analysis performed by idiots. The best boo...
Bat Shit Crazy Fear-inspiring Location
  10/27/16
(Wage-slave dork, stirring at his cubicle)
Red den becky
  10/27/16
Lol, I actually buy failing small companies from idiots for ...
Bat Shit Crazy Fear-inspiring Location
  10/27/16
net worth?
splenetic crackhouse
  10/27/16
no, offense is more important both are important, though
Gaped vigorous genital piercing
  10/28/16
(2010 Texas to 2010 Alabama)
exciting base
  10/28/16
Moronic thread and obvious CR. Is it bad to get an immedi...
unhinged lettuce azn
  10/28/16
This is "CUT UP UR CREDIT CARDS!!"-level advice th...
Mint Cuckoldry
  10/27/16
(Guy who will never be a millionaire)
Red den becky
  10/27/16
He's a hundo percent correct on his thesis but skips over a ...
Gay juggernaut
  10/27/16
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sepia friendly grandma
  10/27/16
Don't worry just let Uncle Schlmo take care of this for you
sepia friendly grandma
  10/27/16
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Red den becky
  10/27/16
There is a (risky) hybrid path: Dump money into 401(k), then...
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  10/27/16
You are also double taxed on the interest you pay yourself o...
Diverse useless national security agency mood
  10/28/16
Not if you are using it to buy or improve a qualified reside...
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  10/28/16
this advice applies to lawdorks like earl who are so busy es...
Ruddy mediation
  10/27/16
Explain my wife joining the military at 22 and having appx 3...
narrow-minded bawdyhouse
  10/28/16
$350k at 37 years-old is a long ways away from 1 million
Red den becky
  10/28/16
(lil bro who doesn't understand compounding interest)
narrow-minded bawdyhouse
  10/28/16
$350k at 37 years-old is shit. who cares if you got 1 mil...
Red den becky
  10/28/16
Imagine what she could be doing now if she didnt give her mo...
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  10/28/16
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Red den becky
  10/28/16
The article is cr for people wanting to be "millionaire...
Slippery house
  10/28/16
Get rich or die trying
sepia friendly grandma
  10/28/16
working man's a sucker
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  10/28/16
my plan to be a millionaire, in the abstract, is: step 1)...
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  10/28/16
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  10/28/16
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  10/28/16
...how does this guy think you save 100K if 6K/yr is a lot o...
exciting base
  10/28/16
What if you are shielding income from ibr
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  10/28/16
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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:51 PM
Author: Red den becky

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/self-made-millionaire-dont-put-161146781.html

After graduating from college, Grant Cardone was broke and swimming in $40,000 of student debt, he writes in his new book, "Be Obsessed Or Be Average."

By 30, he'd made his first million. Since then, the 58-year-old has built five companies and a multi-million dollar fortune.

The self-made millionaire refuses to play by anyone else's rules, particularly when it comes to saving money.

"I would never, ever invest money in a 401(k)," Cardone tells CNBC. "Why would I go to work, have my employer give me another $6,000 a year, and then take that money and send it off to Wall Street, where I can't even touch it for 30 years? I wouldn't do that."

The popular retirement plans are "traps that prevent people from ever having enough," Cardone writes on his website. "The 401(k) is merely where you kiss your money away for 40 years hoping it grows up."

Rather than focusing on saving, focus on earning — you can't save your way to millionaire status, he says.

"Wall Street is telling you to invest little bits, early. They don't believe in your ability to earn money," Cardone tells CNBC. "People need to show the ability to produce more revenue — not invest it — first. People get rich because they produce revenue, not because they make little investments over time."

And don't just focus on earning — focus on earning big, says Cardone. "Keep stacking that paper until you have a hundred grand in the bank. I know this is very unrealistic for a lot of people, but the reason it's unrealistic is because you've been conditioned to think small."

Grant is promoting saving the money you earn, but counter to most advice, he says to put the money in a good old-fashioned savings account — where your money is accessible at a moment's notice — until you have at least $100,000. Then, you can start investing.

"Put your saved money into secured, sacred (untouchable) accounts," he writes on Entrepreneur. "Never use these accounts for anything, not even an emergency. ... To this day, at least twice a year, I am broke because I always invest my surpluses into ventures I cannot access."

It's important to note that the median retirement savings for all families in the U.S . is just $5,000, and the median for families with some savings is $60,000, according to the Economic Policy Institute (EPI). And many families have zero saved. Employer-sponsored retirement plans are meant to help address this and are a good option for many people. But of course, to Grant's point, they won't help you get rich quickly or invest in opportunities today.

He's not the only self-made millionaire to encourage this kind of thinking. After studying wealthy people for more than 25 years, self-made millionaire Steve Siebold found that rich people set their expectations high and aren't afraid to think big.

After all, as he writes in "How Rich People Think," "No one would ever strike it rich and live their dreams without huge expectations."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740261)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:53 PM
Author: Infuriating jewess

Always motivating seeing dumb rich people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740281)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:54 PM
Author: Heady associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740293)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: Red den becky

It's smart to save in a 401k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740302)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: low-t opaque gay wizard digit ratio

Just do listen to lottery winners for their tips to becoming rich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740315)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: coral thriller preventive strike brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740328)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: Red den becky

Grant Cardone earned his millions from doing sales. He knows a thing or two, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740347)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: Infuriating jewess

i dont have any matching so not an issue for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740320)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:59 PM
Author: Stimulating Boiling Water

Tax benefits are pretty big (plus obviously matching if you have it.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740337)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: Topaz Locus Tank

CR. Paying off my loans first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740325)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: 180 hyperactive forum

Stopped reading at "swimming" in 40k debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740327)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: rambunctious cyan locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740407)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:53 PM
Author: rough-skinned hyperventilating hissy fit whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740645)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:06 PM
Author: Bisexual Masturbator Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744412)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: Sable sinister legend

if you don't touch your 100k during an emergency, and it's not earning money, then what the fuck is it doing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740330)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:01 PM
Author: 180 hyperactive forum

It's dumb to put your money in 401k but stick it in a savings account earning 0.1% interest and don't touch it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740356)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: Red den becky

Until you reach $100k, then you can invest it in things that produce income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740370)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: 180 hyperactive forum

Doesn't sound like he's trusting his ability to EARN!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740405)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: Stimulating Boiling Water

what an idiot. lol.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740332)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: Red den becky

Explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740351)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: Stimulating Boiling Water

A 401k is valuable for someone who doesn't have millions of dollars. The benefits outweigh the drawbacks of not having access to that money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740368)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:04 PM
Author: Red den becky

You low-IQ? The whole point of the article is that putting money in 401k won't help most ppl earn millions. Saving money into savings account, reaching $100k, and then investing in things that produce income is always cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740388)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: Stimulating Boiling Water

care to elaborate on "investing in things that produce income?" You believe the average person has the ability to get a better return on their investment then what they'll get in the market over 30 years + the benefit of matching if that's there?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740406)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:10 PM
Author: Red den becky

Investing in small businesses

Apartment complexes

Buying & renovating fix er upper homes and selling them for a profit

Buying cars, fixing them, selling them at a profit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740427)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:46 PM
Author: exciting base

or seeing as how the average person struggling to save a million dollars over a lifetime is likely too dumb to understand the real estate market, they could just start on day 1 by putting their money in REITs rather than trying to pwn the market themselves

like why do you think you need 100K to invest in apartment complexes LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744678)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:11 PM
Author: Canary faggot firefighter

buy rental property, fairly easy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740434)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:13 PM
Author: Red den becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740442)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: Green Concupiscible Black Woman Main People

don't get a match and put your money in a 401(k) where you can't touch it for decades, instead just invest your money where you can't touch it for decades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740348)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: Stimulating Boiling Water

what about the tax deduction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740354)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:10 PM
Author: Green Concupiscible Black Woman Main People

yeah i was mocking his suggestion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740428)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: Red den becky

Grant Cardone encourages investing in things that produce revenue. How is that dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740364)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship

ITT: risk averse queers who have zero entrepreneurial ability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740404)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:11 PM
Author: Red den becky

Hence why they're lawyers. They think 401ks are cr cause it "seems like the reasonable thing to do!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740431)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:14 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship

Exactly. Just do give your money away to someone else and wait 30 fucking years to get it back. Jfc take the money and buy an apt complex or open a paving company or some shit. 401k is best way to gUrantee you'll be a wage slave forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740452)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:17 PM
Author: Red den becky

That's why the saying, "A students will work for C students" is true. A students are risk-averse pussys who rarely create companies or businesses that produce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740469)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:47 PM
Author: vivacious hospital mad-dog skullcap

Silicon Valley is run by morons, and a valedictorian just cleaned my pool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740615)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: sepia friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740627)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:57 PM
Author: Red den becky

(Idiot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740682)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 3:56 AM
Author: vivacious hospital mad-dog skullcap

Got anything else from your book of prole proverbs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31743027)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: sepia friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740625)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:14 PM
Author: 180 hyperactive forum

Describe the world where putting $ into a 401k is somehow at odds with being entrepreneurial (other than, you know, working a job where you actually have a 401k).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740449)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:17 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship

If it's either or then you should bet on yourself. Sure 401 cr if you have loads chillin and you need a tax break. But ljfl at pussies socking away 18k a year when that's all of their investable income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740472)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:19 PM
Author: 180 hyperactive forum

The only people maxing 401k like that have an excess of $ already. Most people just do it up to what their company will match.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740482)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:22 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship

Very few companies match. The OP wasn't talking to biglolyers he was talking to average joe cumskin. That's the type of guy who should use the 20k to get a decent plumbing van and start hustling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740505)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:22 PM
Author: Red den becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740509)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:23 PM
Author: 180 hyperactive forum

Most largish companies provide some matching... It's law firms that don't even offer 401ks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740512)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:25 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship

I'd imagine it's not too many people who have that set up. Most jobs are small businesses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740518)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:27 PM
Author: Red den becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740524)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: exciting base

"That's the type of guy who should use the 20k"

uh avg joe cumskin is struggling to even put 6K into his 401K, but great job guy-in-OP for encouraging people to literally put their money in a bank account drawing almost 0% interest for seventeen years before using it to make money!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744703)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:37 PM
Author: Gay juggernaut

Gotta spend money to make money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740565)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:25 PM
Author: Vibrant fortuitous meteor hall

This is 100% cr. Never give your money to Uncle Moshe unless it's attached to a string tied to your wrist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740517)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:35 PM
Author: Lascivious Legal Warrant Tanning Salon

Uncle Shmuel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744576)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:30 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Fear-inspiring Location

ITT: fact-free analysis performed by idiots.

The best books that I have seen that actually study millionaires as a group are those of the Millionaire Next Door series. Of those, the best that I have read is Stop Acting Rich. One point that the author makes, in contrast to this guy, is that playing defense (saving and investing carefully) is just as important as playing offense (generating revenue).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740532)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:33 PM
Author: Red den becky

(Wage-slave dork, stirring at his cubicle)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740544)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:34 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Fear-inspiring Location

Lol, I actually buy failing small companies from idiots for pennies on the dollar. Hit me up when you're ready to sell yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740553)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:52 PM
Author: splenetic crackhouse

net worth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740643)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: Gaped vigorous genital piercing

no, offense is more important

both are important, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744696)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:50 PM
Author: exciting base

(2010 Texas to 2010 Alabama)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744716)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:27 PM
Author: unhinged lettuce azn

Moronic thread and obvious CR.

Is it bad to get an immediate 100% return on your investment if it's locked up for years afterward in a relatively low risk vehicle?

The reason most non-rich people don't have more investment income is because they spend too much of their income on expenses that are avoidable. You may decide you have to live in that nicer house in that better neighborhood because of the schools, etc., and that your kids need summer camps, enriching afterschool programs, memorable vacations and extravagant birthdays so that they are confident that you love them and prioritize their needs. But you're also deprioritizing your ability to have more black in your household budget, which means less ability to invest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745739)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:33 PM
Author: Mint Cuckoldry

This is "CUT UP UR CREDIT CARDS!!"-level advice that only applies to poors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740546)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:38 PM
Author: Red den becky

(Guy who will never be a millionaire)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740567)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:36 PM
Author: Gay juggernaut

He's a hundo percent correct on his thesis but skips over a big point: you have to be willing to take risks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740563)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:50 PM
Author: sepia friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740631)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:52 PM
Author: sepia friendly grandma

Don't worry just let Uncle Schlmo take care of this for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740639)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 7:57 PM
Author: Red den becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740685)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 8:08 PM
Author: curious henna church building depressive

There is a (risky) hybrid path: Dump money into 401(k), then draw a loan out of the 401(k) when you come across an investment/business opportunity.

Gets you your tax advantage and preserves some capital flexibility.

Dangerous though. Defaulting on 401(k) loans is LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740772)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 10:22 AM
Author: Diverse useless national security agency mood

You are also double taxed on the interest you pay yourself on the loan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31743863)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:34 PM
Author: arousing kitty cat

Not if you are using it to buy or improve a qualified residence. There are also breaks for education, business, or investment purposes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745807)



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Date: October 27th, 2016 8:16 PM
Author: Ruddy mediation

this advice applies to lawdorks like earl who are so busy escaping a tiny portion of pretax savings that they cant harness the intellectual horsepower they have to do something greater than work suburban midlaw. hes truly trapped in a prison of his own making and he doesnt even get the employer contribution implicit in the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31740823)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 11:36 AM
Author: narrow-minded bawdyhouse

Explain my wife joining the military at 22 and having appx 350k in her retirement 37

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744222)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:01 PM
Author: Red den becky

$350k at 37 years-old is a long ways away from 1 million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744378)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:09 PM
Author: narrow-minded bawdyhouse

(lil bro who doesn't understand compounding interest)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744428)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: Red den becky

$350k at 37 years-old is shit.

who cares if you got 1 million by age 60. you're too old now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744441)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:11 PM
Author: Smoky school cafeteria doctorate

Imagine what she could be doing now if she didnt give her money away. Could have started a business, invested directly into startup, bought rental property. Instead, the only thing she did was guarantee that she'll be a working stiff for another 20yrs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744443)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:19 PM
Author: Red den becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744496)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:15 PM
Author: Slippery house

The article is cr for people wanting to be "millionaires" in the wealthy sense of the term, not "retiremillionaires." If someone wants to go all in and become rich then having your money sit somewhere is not the way to go. The focus is on speed, and wealth creation, not on stability and nestegg. So in that sense you need to go for something with a higher risk/reward than the 401k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744474)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:42 PM
Author: sepia friendly grandma

Get rich or die trying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744642)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: Slippery house

working man's a sucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744668)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:46 PM
Author: Sable sinister legend

my plan to be a millionaire, in the abstract, is:

step 1) build up your earning power to the point where you can earn at least 2-3x what it costs to survive at the poverty level. let's say the poverty level in your city is 35k. build up your earning power to at least 70k

step 2) spend 35k or less surviving

step 3) spend whatever money remains on risky ventures that can really explode if they are successful

repeat step 3 over and over for years until one of them explodes.

if you're right, you'll be lauded as a seer and will become a young millionaire. if you're wrong, you'll be penniless and mocked. but the good thing is that you only have to be right once.

in concrete terms, i am betting very big on bitcoin. irresponsibly big. if you ever hear about bitcoin collapsing to $0, you will know that i fucked up big time and continue to live a very meager lifestyle.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744679)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:56 PM
Author: Red den becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744754)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:49 PM
Author: Gaped vigorous genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744707)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 12:45 PM
Author: exciting base

...how does this guy think you save 100K if 6K/yr is a lot of money to remove from your bank acct to put in a 401K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31744665)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:20 PM
Author: Ebony Gaping

What if you are shielding income from ibr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745670)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 2:36 PM
Author: tan water buffalo

guy who wins lottery advises others to invest all their money on lottery tickets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31745819)



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Date: October 28th, 2016 3:57 PM
Author: Ebony Gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3400938&forum_id=2#31746510)