Fantasybros: How good is Malazan? HOw does it compare to SoIaF, Amber?
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Date: December 23rd, 2016 10:05 PM Author: beady-eyed gas station
i read like the 1st half of the 1st book. kind of sucks. reminds me of a very elaborate d&d-style book.
amber is classic fantasy. not as much world building, blah blah, more action and plot.
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Date: December 23rd, 2016 10:56 PM Author: Flushed idea he suggested
I read the first five books in HS and stopped because I just didn't give a shit anymore. A few thoughts:
-It starts in media res in a big way. The first book, Gardens of the Moon, is particularly confusing as a result.
-Books 2 and 3 were pretty good. Definitely the best of the five I read.
-Characters are generally pretty weak. Erickson has a bad habit of having characters change names for some reason which is irritating.
-It's really really over-the-top. Malazan is all about super-wizards who can obliterate armies, battles where 100,000 people die, wars lasting thousands of years, tons of fantasy races, etc.
-Sadly while there's a ton of world-building it's often a shoddy structure. The appendices are even inconsistent between books which really bothered to me. Sometimes there are timeline screw-ups, like a character who suddenly has a 3-year-old daughter in a book that starts a year after the last one.
-Erickson tries to give his books more weight by having his gritty soldiers spout philosophy and I mostly don't think this works.
-There are a shitload of books so it's a huge investment. Counting the spinoffs by Erickson's friend, it may be longer than Wheel of Time by now.
-The plot is sprawling, with basically three major theaters (at least of the books I read). Books 1, 3, and 8 are on their own continent. Books 2, 4, and 6 are on another. Books 5 and 7 on yet another. I don't really know where 9 and 10 go because I quit reading.
-Erickson is...okay as a writer, I guess. But Martin is certainly much better.
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Date: December 24th, 2016 12:10 AM Author: Flushed idea he suggested
I like The Black Company, which has the additional advantage of having books that aren't all a trillion pages.
Gene Wolfe is a fun and unconventional author whose work generally has a fantasy edge. You have to put in a lot of effort reading him, though, since he's a bit postmodern and loves unreliable narrators and shit. Expect to do rereads if you want to "get" him.
I liked The Lies of Locke Lamora but the sequels kinda sucked. It works as a standalone though.
Overall I haven't read much fantasy besides the common ones, namely ASOIAF. It's just a lot of investment for a limited upside, ever since Robert Jordan made it so every high-profile fantasy series needs to be a 10-book orgy of worldbuilding.
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Date: December 24th, 2016 3:25 PM Author: Thriller Institution
name of the wind trilogy and red rising trilogy (sci fi + fantasy) are the best out there right now
joe abercrombie blade itself is fun light reading
robin hobb assassin series is good long term story but it's not traditional fantasy
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