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aspiring programmer living in two-bedroom SF apartment with 12 people (article)

salon.com Hacker house blues: My life with 12 programmers...
tech founder hoverboarding towards small business
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;;.;.:.;:.;:......;.........;;;.
  12/28/16
Oh, God. Oh.
Rudolph
  12/28/16
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tech founder hoverboarding towards small business
  12/28/16
jfc. pinterest programmer living in a closet? wtf?
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  12/28/16
just an autist who spends almost all day at work so he doesn...
THE most widely respected poaster
  12/28/16
I bet all 12 bros slay the SF dating scene
Limp Biscuit
  12/28/16
Sad. This is how fob turd programmers live and we look down ...
POATUS
  12/28/16
and they probably aren't even chill straight bros who like t...
ah
  12/28/16
*falls to knees and thanks God for creating ARE country*
John Rocker Did Nothing Wrong
  12/28/16
the stench of BO and curry must've been unimaginable
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
the bro in the closet gets the best deal
michael doodikoff
  12/28/16
I know several programmers from non-elite ug's (e.g., UC Irv...
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if they were cheap they would live in north Oakland and pay ...
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Not dumb just misinformed and unaware of the proper research...
tech founder hoverboarding towards small business
  12/28/16
lol north oakland hasn't been anywhere near that cheap in go...
404 poster not found
  12/30/16
also, pinterest is a pretty respected and high paying compan...
dea
  12/28/16
CR. Even for the software devs who are dumb enough to live i...
Bro Montpellier
  12/28/16
There must be a fuckton of money in illegal sublets in SF. 1...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
you're exposing yourself to yuge financial liability though
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
How? If your HOA threatens to kick you out, then sell ap...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
are you retarded? 13 people, all of whom have cause to with...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
It's airbnb, broski. Entire stay is prepaid. If they oversta...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
lol, so you *are* retarded. Airbnb can't help you evict some...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
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You're right. I'm in Texas. There is no such thing as a succ...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
even in texas you'd be exposing yourself to lawsuits for inj...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
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Lolno. The only people doing that here are illegals, and a t...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
lol yeah good luck making $10k/month profit renting out a lu...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
It's not the same market. You buy $50k houses, and then cram...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
ok good luck with that buddy
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
I'm honestly shocked that you're not familiar with this scam...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
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tech founder hoverboarding towards small business
  12/28/16
you have difficulty staying on topic, don't you?
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
Genuinely enjoyed this ST
LTDanCaffey
  12/28/16
you're sounding like a real risk adverse lawyer here. These ...
I really like it here.
  12/28/16
all it takes is one "tenant" who is savvy to housi...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.
  12/28/16
lol this is literally a running joke from "Silicon Vall...
gaggle ofIvyLgrs allocating spots@fallout shelter
  12/28/16
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decrepit genXer wheezing about Nirvana
  12/28/16
why is it so fucking expensive to get 1/6 of a bedroom in sa...
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high demand due to SF being a boomtown + low supply due to r...
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Ridiculous markup on this. Here's a comparable place: htt...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
why are they paying such a huge markup. WHAT'S GOING ON
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That's a good question. 4 of them could get together and pay...
texasLawlz (t14)
  12/28/16
bc they don't know how to socialize and get 3 other doods, m...
THE most widely respected poaster
  12/28/16
They already live with roommates. They could just count off ...
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these people sound like idiots, but i know they're not, beca...
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because they see stories like this and assume it's what ever...
404 poster not found
  12/30/16
Would be a funny premise for a premium cable TV series.
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  12/28/16
Egregious Dartmouth trolling.
Drunkard
  12/28/16
this took FAR too long
Baltimore Orioles
  12/28/16
These guys are paying $1200/month for a bunk bed?
e39
  12/28/16
More common than you think. Some of these places spin themse...
tech founder hoverboarding towards small business
  12/29/16
Link for reference: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/09...
tech founder hoverboarding towards small business
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Date: December 28th, 2016 2:13 PM
Author: tech founder hoverboarding towards small business

salon.com

Hacker house blues: My life with 12 programmers, 2 rooms and one 21st-century dream

David Garczynski

I might have been trespassing up there, but I would often go to the 19th-floor business lounge to work and study. Located on the top floor of a luxury high-rise in the SOMA district of San Francisco, the lounge was only accessible to residents of the building. Yet for a while I found myself there almost every day.

Seventeen floors below, I lived in an illegal Airbnb with 12 roommates split between two rooms. There were six people packed into my bedroom alone — seven, if you included the guy who lived in the closet. Three bunk beds adorned the walls, and I was fortunate enough to score a bottom bunk. Unfortunately, though, it was not the one by the window, which, with the exception of one dim lamp, was the only source of light in the room. Even at midday, the room never lit up much more than a shadowed cave. At most hours of the day, you could find someone sleeping in there. Getting in and out of bed was a precarious dance in the darkness to avoid stepping into the suitcases on the floor, out of which most of us lived.

In the shared kitchen, the sink more often than not held a giant pile of dishes, and the fridge, packed with everyone’s groceries and leftovers, emanated a slightly moldy aroma. Mixed in there were the half-eaten meals and unfinished condiment jars of tenants who had long since moved out — all left to rot, but often too far buried in the mass of food to be located.

Let’s just say the room was not as advertised.

The Airbnb posting did boast of access to a 24-hour gym, roof deck and bocce courts. The building has an indoor basketball court, an outdoor hot tub and even a rock climbing wall. The 19th-floor business lounge alone comes with a pool table, a porch, several flat-screen TVs and an enviable view of much of San Francisco. For $1,200 a month, it all seemed worth it. The post did say it was a four-person apartment, not 13, and included a picture of a sunny room with a pair of bunk beds, but I figured for a short sub-lease while I attended coding school, it wouldn’t be so bad. The reviews, after all, were pretty positive, too: mostly 5-stars. However, none of them mentioned the fact that I wouldn’t even be given a front door key.

I’d have to sneak into the building every night. The only way I entered the building was by waiting until someone exited or entered, and then I’d slip through the door before it closed. From there I’d walk straight past the front desk guard and head to the bank of elevators. Despite my nerves, that part was surprisingly easy. The building caters to the young tech elite, so a backwards hat and a collegiate T-shirt practically made me invisible. When I got to my floor, I’d make sure none of the neighbors were watching, and if no one was around, I’d stand on my tiptoes and grab the communal key hidden atop the exit sign. Once the door was unlocked, I’d return the key to its perch for the next tenant to use.

I had moved to San Francisco to break into the tech world after being accepted into one of those ubiquitous 12-week coding boot camps. I had dreams of becoming a programmer, hoping one day I could land a remote contracting gig — a job where I could work from wherever and make a good living. My life would be part ski bum and part professional.

In my mid-20s uncertainty, the coding route seemed to have the most promise — high paychecks in companies that prized work-life balance, or so it seemed from afar. I knew the road wouldn’t be easy, but any time I’d mention my ambitions to family and friends, they responded with resounding positivity, affirming my belief that it was a well-worn path to an obtainable goal.

All of the people in that Airbnb were programmers. Some were trying to break into the industry through boot camps, but most were already full-time professional coders. They headed out early in the morning to their jobs at start-ups in the neighborhood. A lot of them hailed from some of the top schools in the country: Stanford, MIT, Dartmouth. If I was going to get through my program, I needed to rely on them, academically and emotionally. Once the program started up, I would find myself coding 15 hours a day during the week, with that number mercifully dropping to 10-12 hours on the weekends. Late at night, when my stressed-out thoughts would form an ever-intensifying feedback loop of questioning despair — What am I doing? Is this really worth it? — I would need to be able to look to the people around me as living reminders of the possibility of my goals.

Every night, the people whose jobs I coveted would come home from 10- to 12-hour shifts in front of a computer and proceed to the couch, where they’d open up their laptops and spend the remaining hours of the night in silence, sifting through more and more lines of code. Beyond preternatural math abilities and a penchant for problem solving, it seemed most didn’t have much in the way of life skills. They weren’t who I thought they would be — a community of intelligent and inspiring men and women bouncing ideas back and forth. Rather they were boys and girls, coddled by day in the security of companies that fed them, entertained them and nursed them. At home, they could barely take care of themselves.

Take for example the programmer who lived in my closet: Every night he’d come home around 9 p.m. He’d sit on the couch, pour himself a bowl of cereal and eat in silence. Then he would grab his laptop and head directly into the closet — a so-called “private room” listed on Airbnb for $1,400 a month. It was the only time I’d ever see him. The only way I could tell he was home was by the glow of his laptop seeping out from under the closet door. Hours later, deep into the night, the light would go out, and I would know he had to gone to sleep. By the time I arrived, he had been living there for 16 months, in a windowless closet with a thin mattress placed right on the floor. During the day he codes for Pinterest. Yeah . . . that Pinterest.

Maybe there were people working in this city who were living out the tech dreams of everyone else, but I’ve realized the number of people who dream about it far outnumber of people who obtain it. Everyone I spoke to in this town seemed doe-eyed about the future, even while they were living in illegal Airbnbs and working at failing startups across the city.

The odds weren’t in my favor. Most likely I’d find myself in the 92 percent of start-ups that go under in three years, trapped like some of my friends — much smarter and better programmers than I’ll ever be — bouncing from failing company to failing company.

Or maybe not. Maybe I would make it, only to become like my friends who earn six-figure paychecks and still lament that they’ll never be able to buy a home here. What illusions could I continue to maintain then?

There was a good chance I’d find myself in a situation like another roommate’s. During salary negotiations for a job at a start-up, he was encouraged to accept the pay tier with a lower salary but higher equity stake. Now he works 12-hour days just to try to keep the company (and his potential payout) afloat on a paycheck not much higher than some entry-level, non-programming jobs.

The most likely scenario, however, was that I’d become like the mid-30s man who slept in the bunk above me. The reality of his situation slowly slipped him into a depressive state, until he was sleeping most hours of the day. The rest of his waking hours were spent walking around slumped and gloomy.

Programming for me was never supposed to be more than a means to an end, but that end started to feel farther and farther away. The longer I lived in that Airbnb, the longer I realized my dreams would never be met. In all likelihood I would be swept up in an economy here that traded on hopes and dreams of the people clamoring to break in. The illegal Airbnbs that dot the city can afford to charge their amounts because there is no shortage of people wanting to break in. There is another smart kid around the corner who believes that despite the working and living conditions this is just the first step to striking it big. Never tell them the odds.

I had hinged my happiness on an illusion and naively fought to get into a community that wouldn’t help me advance in the direction of my dreams. Maybe in the end I would get everything I needed or at least a nice paycheck, but I’d lose all of myself in the process. I’d be churned and beaten by the underbelly of the tech world here long before I could ever make it out.

If you are interested, it’s not that hard to sneak up to the 19th-floor lounge. I still do sometimes, despite having long since moved out and given up programming. From up there the view of San Francisco takes on the artificial quality of a miniature model. To the north, you’ll see a sea of tech start-ups, their signs and symbols a wild mash of colors. From this distance, it can all look so peaceful. Just know that somewhere in that view is another “hacker house” with bright kids living in almost migrant-worker conditions. Somewhere out there is a coding boot camp with slightly inflated numbers, selling a dream. Their fluorescent halls and cramped bedrooms are filled with the perennially hopeful looking to take the place of those who have already realized this dream isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

It is a beautiful view, though. Just one I no longer want for myself.

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/17/hacker-house-blues-my-life-with-12-programmers-2-rooms-and-one-21st-century-dream/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32248709)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 2:21 PM
Author: ;;.;.:.;:.;:......;.........;;;.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32248750)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 2:45 PM
Author: Rudolph

Oh, God. Oh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32248925)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 4:53 PM
Author: tech founder hoverboarding towards small business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250033)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:01 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


jfc. pinterest programmer living in a closet? wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250101)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: THE most widely respected poaster (playing with gay dog boners since 2013)

just an autist who spends almost all day at work so he doesn't need anything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250630)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:02 PM
Author: Limp Biscuit

I bet all 12 bros slay the SF dating scene

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250106)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:05 PM
Author: POATUS

Sad. This is how fob turd programmers live and we look down on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250119)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:07 PM
Author: ah

and they probably aren't even chill straight bros who like to help each other out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250132)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:23 PM
Author: John Rocker Did Nothing Wrong

*falls to knees and thanks God for creating ARE country*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250247)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:27 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


the stench of BO and curry must've been unimaginable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250295)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:31 PM
Author: michael doodikoff

the bro in the closet gets the best deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250336)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:38 PM
Author: ...........,...,....,.,. ( )

I know several programmers from non-elite ug's (e.g., UC Irvine) who have good coding jobs for non-elite "tech" companies (same caliber or worse than Pinterest) and they can afford to at the very worst share a bedroom in an apartment with one other person inside SF city limits. These guys who are living 6 to a bedroom aren't doing so because of economics, it's because they're pathologically cheap and autistic. These writers just go looking for the craziest, stupidest dudes in the bay area and write up these horror stories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250387)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:47 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


if they were cheap they would live in north Oakland and pay $800 for a private bedroom. if they were pathologically cheap they would live in the east Oakland ghetto and pay $500 for a bedroom

these people are just dumb and/or hopelessly autistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250493)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:07 PM
Author: tech founder hoverboarding towards small business

Not dumb just misinformed and unaware of the proper research they need to do before entering a new job market and city. Some people learn the hard way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250649)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 5:12 PM
Author: 404 poster not found (ohnoe)

lol north oakland hasn't been anywhere near that cheap in goddamn forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32264588)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:52 PM
Author: dea

also, pinterest is a pretty respected and high paying company. good chance that bro is making more than someone at google or facebook, albeit a substantial portion will be illiquid RSUs or ISOs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250535)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: Bro Montpellier

CR. Even for the software devs who are dumb enough to live in SF, conditions are not nearly as bad as the article makes it sound.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250873)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:51 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

There must be a fuckton of money in illegal sublets in SF. 13 people x $1,200/mo = $15,600/mo.

That's probably $10k/mo profit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250520)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:54 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


you're exposing yourself to yuge financial liability though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250547)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:55 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

How?

If your HOA threatens to kick you out, then sell apt and buy another. This scam doesn't have to work very long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250556)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:57 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


are you retarded? 13 people, all of whom have cause to withhold rent indefinitely as well as to sue for damages due to your multiple flagrant violations of fire code, housing code, and building code, not to mention your liability for any injuries that they may incur while on the premises, none of which would be covered by any renter's insurance policy. and that's before we even get to potential liability for any damages/injuries to other apartment owners/tenants caused by your 13 "guests."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250569)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:01 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

It's airbnb, broski. Entire stay is prepaid. If they overstay, AirBnb supposedly helps evict.

Run it like you're a slumlord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250601)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


lol, so you *are* retarded. Airbnb can't help you evict somebody who has gained tenancy by being there 30 days or more and is therefore protected by SF tenant law, Einstein.

guess you're conceding my points about exposing yourself to megalawsuits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250631)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:06 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

You're right. I'm in Texas. There is no such thing as a successful residential tenant law suit here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250642)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:07 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


even in texas you'd be exposing yourself to lawsuits for injuries and damage to any of your tenants and their possessions as well as to your neighbors and their possessions. no renter's insurance policy would cover you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250646)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:09 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

Lolno. The only people doing that here are illegals, and a threat to call la migra makes all your problems disappear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250658)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:10 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


lol yeah good luck making $10k/month profit renting out a luxury condo unit to illegals in Texas through Airbnb, genius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250671)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:11 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

It's not the same market. You buy $50k houses, and then cram them full of illegals. You make money on volume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250677)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:12 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


ok good luck with that buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250679)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:15 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

I'm honestly shocked that you're not familiar with this scam. Even ARE President got his start slumlording in Queens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250695)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 7:23 PM
Author: tech founder hoverboarding towards small business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32251136)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 7:29 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


you have difficulty staying on topic, don't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32251182)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 9:03 PM
Author: LTDanCaffey

Genuinely enjoyed this ST

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32251996)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:05 PM
Author: I really like it here.

you're sounding like a real risk adverse lawyer here. These are all FOB programmer bros. They don't give a shit about fire codes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250633)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:06 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


all it takes is one "tenant" who is savvy to housing law and he can milk you for all you're worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250641)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:32 PM
Author: gaggle ofIvyLgrs allocating spots@fallout shelter (gaggle tp)

lol this is literally a running joke from "Silicon Valley"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250784)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 8:47 PM
Author: decrepit genXer wheezing about Nirvana



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32251865)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:56 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:,:,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,.


why is it so fucking expensive to get 1/6 of a bedroom in san francisco. makes NYC look like are country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250560)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 5:59 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,:;;......;,,,,:.:.,:.::,.


high demand due to SF being a boomtown + low supply due to restrictive zoning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250584)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:02 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

Ridiculous markup on this. Here's a comparable place:

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_rent/San-Francisco-CA-94103/house,condo,apartment_duplex,mobile,townhouse_type/80739917_zpid/97558_rid/2-_beds/37.792066,-122.38967,37.759162,-122.435804_rect/14_zm/

I'm halfway tempted to rent it and cram 13 dudes in there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250611)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:,:,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,.


why are they paying such a huge markup. WHAT'S GOING ON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250623)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: texasLawlz (t14)

That's a good question. 4 of them could get together and pay the same price and live like normals.

Maybe for these techtards, renting off of AirBNB is a better deal than the social awkwardness of actually renting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250628)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:05 PM
Author: THE most widely respected poaster (playing with gay dog boners since 2013)

bc they don't know how to socialize and get 3 other doods, my chill bro friends in SF are living in comfy digs bc they are capable of getting roommates without an airbnb matchmaker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250636)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:10 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


They already live with roommates. They could just count off by 3's and all rent apartments with their randomly assigned roommates.

Why didn't the guy turn tail when he realized he wasn't getting a key and would be living in squalor?

Shit makes no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250672)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:11 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:,:,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,.


these people sound like idiots, but i know they're not, because CODING is for SMART PEOPLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250675)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 5:14 PM
Author: 404 poster not found (ohnoe)

because they see stories like this and assume it's what everyone does. they're too socially retarded to realize you can just split a normal apartment on craigslist for not much more money, even in sf

it's also easier. they're basically children and will freak out having to spend more than a week looking for a place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32264599)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:00 PM
Author: :D (5000 mcg B12/wk, 150 mcg iodine/day, 250 mg algal DHA-EPA/day)

Would be a funny premise for a premium cable TV series.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250591)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 6:14 PM
Author: Drunkard (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody)

Egregious Dartmouth trolling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32250693)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 7:41 PM
Author: Baltimore Orioles (J. Timberlake)

this took FAR too long

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32251302)



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Date: December 28th, 2016 8:54 PM
Author: e39

These guys are paying $1200/month for a bunk bed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32251917)



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Date: December 29th, 2016 2:00 PM
Author: tech founder hoverboarding towards small business

More common than you think. Some of these places spin themselves off as retreat centers for aspiring coders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32256057)



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Date: December 30th, 2016 5:09 PM
Author: tech founder hoverboarding towards small business

Link for reference: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/09/09/san-francisco-mission-district-rentals-bunkbeds-vinyasa-homes-project/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3474647&forum_id=2#32264570)