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Secretary uses every last one of her 10 sick days every year. Normal?
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:15 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business We give her 3 weeks vacation, 2 weeks of sick days and 2 personal days, and she uses every one like clock work, basically getting 5 and a half weeks of vacation.
Is this the norm for people like secretaries and service workers?
Meanwhile, I haven't been too sick to come to the office in years. |
Date: January 4th, 2017 4:16 PM Author: Big Hyperactive Sound Barrier Office what's the point of having a difference between PTO and sick days. Do you need a doctor's note for sick days or some shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298350) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business We don't pay for accrued sick time. That's why we differentiate. Don't think you need a doctor's note. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298360) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: Sapphire exhilarant cuck If you aren't paying sick days what's the problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298365) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business we pay them for it, we just don't pay them if they don't use it, like you do when you don't use vacation at most places and leave the company (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298381) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: Sapphire exhilarant cuck seems like you are asking for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298398) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: marvelous frum persian lol isn't that illegal in CA?
actually no.
the reason your differentiate sick days instead of general PTO is that you HAVE to pay your employees for accrued PTO either at the end of the year, when they cash it in, or when they quit.
By making the sick time distinction you cheap cunts don't have to pay them for it or let it accrue.
So yes you are asking for it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: duck-like stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298421) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business It is definitely not illegal to not pay for accrued sick time.
But it is for being sick, so not sure why we'd pay them for it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: marvelous frum persian right. your abusive firm makes the sick day/PTO distinction to avoid having to roll over and pay employees for sick time they don't take, like they would with vacation days or PTO. Which is why employees obviously use it.
In other words, if you want you secretary around more often, pay her for the sick days she doesn't use. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:31 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business or have her grow up and use sick days for being sick, which is what they are for, and how 90% of our employees use them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298483) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:33 PM Author: marvelous frum persian Is it shocking that a $60K employee that you hire to make you coffee and open the mail does not have the same dedication to the work that you do making $500k?
Would you really expect anyone to use a vacation day rather than a sick day for a random day off? |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:38 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business 90% of our employees making less than 100k don't use the majority of their sick days. This isn't a grocery store.
BTW, this woman made $86k with bonus last year, and she is 31 years old. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: misanthropic transparent newt Conversely, there are employees who use vacation days if they're actually sick because they ran out of sick days. It doesn't matter what type of day you're taking off time that you're entitled to. This is why I hated when law firms went to unlimited vacation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298640) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business you are not supposed to be "entitled" to sick days....the purpose is if you are too sick to go to work, not just extra vacation....we aren't intentionally giving our employees 5.5 weeks of vacation a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298657) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:54 PM Author: exciting fortuitous meteor immigrant Then don't give them 10 sick days a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298673) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:56 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business you are right. We shouldn't be I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298689) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:00 PM Author: razzmatazz submissive point philosopher-king or have unlimited sick days but with doctor's note only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299133) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:51 PM Author: exciting fortuitous meteor immigrant lol wtf, who goes to a dr for the cold? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306253) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:06 PM Author: razzmatazz submissive point philosopher-king responsible citizens who make sure they're not spreading swine fly or zika. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306358) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: exciting fortuitous meteor immigrant you have to be a woman, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306505) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:06 PM Author: misanthropic transparent newt Nobody is entitled to anything, but if you offer the benefit, it'd be disingenuous to be outraged when employees take advantage of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299162) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:16 PM Author: razzle-dazzle chapel You're asking for it by specifying a max # of sick days. She knows she can take them all with no repercussions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298351) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: Sapphire exhilarant cuck You need to merge vacation, sick days, and personal days into 1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298358) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:18 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business We don't pay for accrued sick time, but do for vacation. That's why we differentiate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298370) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:28 PM Author: Saffron bossy locus ape "we don't want to pay for all those days. that's why we differentiate." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306547) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: marvelous frum persian she is not paid enough to work more than she is supposed to work.
I used to get annoyed when my secretary would take sick days only on Fridays, but that's what all non professional employees do. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business I guess it isn't surprising. We treat them like children, so they act like them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298375) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:28 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business why? are you one of the children? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298451) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: thriller ticket booth oh what an "adult" contributing to the world through his very important rent-seeking that requires employees to be ever vigilant and in the office every day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298459) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business yeah, when you are a secretary, it kind of helps to be in the office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298489) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business We have many employees who don't use all their sick time every year....its called being an adult and basically defrauding their company by using sick days when they aren't sick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298399) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: marvelous frum persian if you get paid for accrued vacation but not for sick days, are you going to use a vacation day for a random day off to spend with your kids, or a sick day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298424) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:26 PM Author: crusty ocher bawdyhouse knife My work doesn't have sick days for this reason. We just have personal days and they accrue so you are encouraged not to use them. Seems like a saner system that use it or lose it sick days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298431) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business how many personal days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298447) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:36 PM Author: crusty ocher bawdyhouse knife 10 a year but they accrue. You can use them for any reason so there's not some stigma. A lot of women seem to save them up for extra maternity tho. We also have vacation days as a separate pool of days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298535) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:38 PM Author: marvelous frum persian both have to be paid out yes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298548) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: crusty ocher bawdyhouse knife Not in our non California offices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298571) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: marvelous frum persian your office has to pay those days out when they quit or get fired. the OP's doesn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298479) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:37 PM Author: crusty ocher bawdyhouse knife Right but when you have use it or lose it days you shouldn't be shocked when people actually use them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298546) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: marvelous frum persian i agree. with PTO some places don't carry over, but they have use it or pay out policies, rather than use it or lose it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298558) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business yeah, but we give 15 of those as well....so 27 days of time off per year, 17 of which accrue, 10 of which don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298561) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: thriller ticket booth oh my god FRAUD!!! seriously I hope you die in a fire. your work isn't that important you jizzrag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298448) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298464) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business Never said it was important. But most of our employees don't do this...they use sick days for when they are...wait for it...sick! Doesn't seem like too much to ask.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298477) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:33 PM Author: thriller ticket booth your employees are just dumb wagecuck sheep who get bullshit like "you're DEFRAUDING the company!" ingrained in their heads by dickweeds like you. this is part of why america is such a SHIT place to work now when we used to be pushing the boundaries of vacation time, pension, and limiting work weeks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298502) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:21 PM Author: Magenta Stirring Keepsake Machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299291) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299324) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:06 PM Author: poppy unhinged public bath yarmulke don't forget drinking whiskey on the job and slapping our secretaries asses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306360) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: slap-happy bearded boiling water tanning salon (Shitlib) if you don't like it, start your own business instead of being a wagecuck leach (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#36187209) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:20 PM Author: Fantasy-prone old irish cottage Here's another way to look at it: why the fuck wouldn't she? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298392) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: duck-like stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298426) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 7:14 PM Author: mind-boggling antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299614) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother this guy has got to be shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298472) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: thriller ticket booth he's not this guy claims to be a "lib" too fucking disgusting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298515) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother its all good flame IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298614) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:47 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business I'm not a real lib. Just think Trump is a dipshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298621) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother not rib! hate trump! chirr bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298659) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:53 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business 6'4", 205 lb WASP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298668) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:31 PM Author: cream travel guidebook death wish You seem really dense, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298480) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: maroon theater dont be an asshole. for fucks sake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298495) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:34 PM Author: harsh irradiated marketing idea Between this thread and his tacit endorsement of the DNC fight song video, I think it's time for this douche to grow a beard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298511) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: 180 out-of-control heaven Yes its normal you fucking faggot. Hillary voters are the worst (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298518) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:37 PM Author: misanthropic transparent newt Yes it is totally normal because sick days and personal days do not accrue and roll over like vacation days.
I use all my sick days and personal days before dipping into vacation days and so do all the other employees. I still come into work if I'm sick. I don't think I've ever taken a real sick day. Why does it matter whether or not she's actually sick, as long as she's taking days off that she is entitled to? |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business so you get 5.5 weeks a year of sick, personal and vacation days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298586) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:44 PM Author: coral french pervert cuckold How incredibly decadent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298603) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business looks like we are just suckers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298608) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: coral french pervert cuckold Meanwhile permanent employees in most first world countries get at least five weeks vacation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298643) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:51 PM Author: misanthropic transparent newt Yes but I take 7 days of sick and personal days and maybe 10 days of vacation, but I have to start burning vacation once I reach 8 weeks soon. Nobody cares as long as you're getting your work done. As long as your secretary is doing her job, I don't see why you would care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298654) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business well, fuck, its like you work in Norway or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298663) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: misanthropic transparent newt So is your issue with her that she takes sick days for actual vacation days or you think she's taking too many days off overall? Because if you guys want to get people to stop taking so many sick days, then simply reduce the sick days number. You can't have a "use it or lose it" rule and expect people not to use them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298696) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:10 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business well, yeah. she takes 5.5 weeks of vacation. most other employees take their vacation, but then sick days when they are sick....at my old firm secretaries just took sick days when they were sick also as far as I could tell. Same for me at my jobs before law school. I assumed that was the way the world worked. I guess I'm just a tool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298789) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:57 PM Author: misanthropic transparent newt You're right most (professional) employees do not take all their vacation days because they can't take that much time off and they'd rather accrue it. But 10 sick days is a lot. I bet if you made it 5 sick days and the other 5 days as vacation, she'd have more incentive to accrue. That said, I assume your firm would rather do the sick days because it's ultimately a cost savings over paying out for vacation days.
I'm not sure why it bothers you that she take so much time off. In all my years of having a secretary, I've used them for like 1 hour/week at the most but still have to give Xmas gift and admin day gift or whatever. Your standards for an admin should be lower.
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: coral french pervert cuckold 3 weeks annual leave? What third world country are you in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298576) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: at-the-ready institution and a sick day allowance! LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298580) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: outnumbered wrinkle double fault nothing i hate more in a workplace than co-workers who get catty about colleagues taking their sick days. jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298578) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business agree, but she's my employee, not my co-worker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298602) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: talking national LOL you dumb Hillary voter. You people really are the scum of the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298613) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Fantasy-prone old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298660) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298661) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:53 PM Author: provocative effete nursing home doctorate wants this kind of thing mandated and then is surprised when some rank and file employees "abuse" it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298671) |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:23 PM Author: Stimulating property dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33672981) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:59 PM Author: Contagious crackhouse nibblets Holy shit this thread. God damn America (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298711) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: diverse background story puppy lol they all do that bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298814) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:19 PM Author: Big Hyperactive Sound Barrier Office I have to "use or lose" vacation time during the year. Is this normal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298849) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:24 PM Author: Burgundy friendly grandma fat ankles how does it work , you can only accrue so many hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298881) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: Big Hyperactive Sound Barrier Office Whatever I have saved up resets to zero on January 1st.
It then accrues throughout the year |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: Big Hyperactive Sound Barrier Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298885) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: histrionic sanctuary yeah pretty normal for wageslaves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299736) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:23 PM Author: Zippy Alcoholic Theatre Really Tough Guy If you only want her to use her sick days when she is actually sick, and you limit it to 10, surely you'd be fine with her taking more than 10 days if she is actually sick more than 10 days. Right? Right??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298872) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:31 PM Author: Big Hyperactive Sound Barrier Office Are you REALLY expressing yourself if you only do the bare minimum?? Look at Brian. He's wearing THIRTY. SEVEN. Pieces of flair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298919) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:39 PM Author: maroon theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298978) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:24 PM Author: Magenta Stirring Keepsake Machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299313) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:26 PM Author: marvelous frum persian On one hand, the idea of 5.5 weeks of PTO is completel foreign to me.
On the other hand, I sometimes don't go to work if I don't need to be in the office and otherwise don't feel like it. So whatever. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business yeah, but you can do your job remotely. Secretary won't even check email if she isn't in the office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298914) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: Twisted state If you don't like it, then just properly document another reason to fire her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298953) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:36 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business I actually otherwise really like her. The fact that she is out of the office 5.5 work weeks a year is my only complaint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298967) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:40 PM Author: marvelous frum persian 5.5 weeks is the fringe benefit. Honestly you allocate way too much of that time as sick leave, because you want to avoid accrual or paying the time out.
You should probably just have 5 days of sick leave and then decide whether or not you want to give more PTO which you have to pay for. Might not affect your secretary but it probably would for others who like to get paid for unused PTO. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: Twisted state Rate her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298996) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business 6, probably a 7 10 years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299053) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: Saffron bossy locus ape lol. so you have a good secretary, maybe the only one in america, but still find a way to be unhappy about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306659) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:42 PM Author: Rusted Flatulent Haunted Graveyard my secretary was absent, late, or left early nearly 70 times in 2016. Basically 25% of the time.
old, tenured secretaries in biglaw firms though are basically untouchable. at my firm their leave rolls over, so she basically didn't take any for the last ten years and now that she has grandkids she just jets whenever she feels like it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:49 PM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business this is why we stopped hiring olds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299056) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:52 PM Author: diverse background story puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306264) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:54 PM Author: Rusted Flatulent Haunted Graveyard as an update, i have a filing due today and she has left for the day "because of the weather."
i have seen 5-6 flurries go past my window. |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:56 PM Author: diverse background story puppy lol. yeah, they all agther around windows and blab about the weather report until the office manager lets them go home early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306289) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: diverse background story puppy one of mine would yell at me that I'd better get moving if I had anything to file because she has to leave at 3 today etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306294) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:10 PM Author: Rusted Flatulent Haunted Graveyard update: the sun is now out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306386) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: stubborn vibrant resort This is routine among proles. They feel entitled to use all of their sick days no matter what. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299134) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother they should be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299327) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 5:56 PM Author: coiffed athletic conference piazza Because they are entitled to them. Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33678324) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:33 PM Author: Mildly autistic giraffe Convert sick days to 1/2 pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299365) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: diverse background story puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306297) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 7:00 PM Author: nudist crotch (ITT: Joo OP) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299517) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:50 PM Author: crimson center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306247) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: disrespectful parlor why the fuck wouldn't she? those are HER days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306293) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 2:09 AM Author: appetizing weed whacker If she can't prove shish sick she should be fired (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32429951) |
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Date: January 21st, 2017 1:24 AM Author: 180 out-of-control heaven Wow youre a huge faggot, big surprise there lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32422748) |
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Date: January 21st, 2017 7:04 PM Author: crimson center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32427444) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 2:40 AM Author: mustard floppy base gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430108) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 2:40 AM Author: Lime legal warrant locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430111) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 9:56 AM Author: bateful umber senate gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430756) |
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Date: October 16th, 2019 10:15 PM Author: Aromatic jade brunch black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#38989282) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 10:35 AM Author: frisky erotic nowag I'm always suspicious and even contemptuous of people who don't use all their allotted leave days, whether PTO or sick.
Why not?
I'm a workaholic who routinely puts in 60+ hour weeks but you better believe I take off every single day I accrue. Only in the US do you find this weird sentiment that there's something wrong with taking all your days off. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 10:51 AM Author: Supple filthy location Is OP Cow Goes Moo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430933) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 10:55 AM Author: Bespoke Parlour Foreskin Hey there, friend. Let me explain something to you.
Life in corporate America is a miserable fucking slog for well adjusted, normal people. People hate wasting their lives sitting at desks.
This may come as a surprise to striver law robots, but people view days off as a benefit and take them. Only TTT nanny companies/firms differentiate between "sick days" and "vacation days" because it invites a weird discussion about what counts as what. If you offer 2 weeks of vacation and 10 days of sick days, just call it 24 days of PTO and don't act as an autistic nanny state company.
God damn, this is why I could never go back to working for someone else again. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:17 AM Author: Territorial splenetic church place of business I get it. We are giving way too much PTO. Whoever set up the policy at our firm didn't understand that our employees consider sick days to be extra vacation days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32431059) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:37 AM Author: Bespoke Parlour Foreskin You are a masterful 180 troll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32431155) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 12:31 PM Author: Overrated dull selfie This.
Devil's advocate: If she were actually sick all those days, would you like her coming in and getting everyone else sick?
TBF: I've left at least 6 weeks of paid sick time on the table over the last 7 years. I'm considering changing this policy and taking "well weeks" off from now on. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 9:37 PM Author: Supple filthy location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32435477) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 9:40 PM Author: harsh irradiated marketing idea Seriously. He subtly continues to get more insufferable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32435523) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:07 AM Author: bisexual cracking macaca If you are not using every last one of your paid days off every single year than you are part of the problem and I hope you die in an acid fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430993) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:38 AM Author: Bespoke Parlour Foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32431159) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: bateful umber senate gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32490460) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: Obsidian indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32490469) |
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Date: April 12th, 2017 9:44 AM Author: Buff Becky sup, dood with 40 vacation days, 10 sick days, 4 unscheduled holidays and 6 weeks of reassignment leave a year here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33055658) |
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Date: April 12th, 2017 10:09 AM Author: gold jet-lagged step-uncle's house It is a tough problem. Employers WANT their employees to stay home when sick because otherwise they are more likely to get their colleagues sick. So overall productivity can go down when sick people come to work. If the employer just says hey, you get 24 PTO days, use them how you will, that is better for employees, but then they are loathe to stay home when sick because it means losing one of their otherwise vacation days, so it hurts employers beyond just the cost of PTO.
On the other hand, if you differentiate between vacation days and sick days, employees are more likely to stay home with a cold, etc (which employers want). However, you're also likely to see that the Friday before a long weekend an employee is suddenly "sick". Employers generally don't mind the time off here (which is why some just do PTO only), but the issue is this is always unscheduled. With PTO, you know a week or so in advance that you'll need coverage for that person, but nobody tells you a couple weeks in advance that they are going to be "sick". Employers who are more concerned about planning might go to a PTO only model whereas employees whose absence isn't that detrimental are more likely to have differentiated days. |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:21 PM Author: sooty international law enforcement agency mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33672971) |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:28 PM Author: crimson center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33673012) |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:35 PM Author: gaped dilemma Some impressive autism going on ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33673066) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 12:37 PM Author: crimson center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33676051) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: coiffed athletic conference piazza Her behavior is a result of the incentives you gave her. It's that simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33676230) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 1:09 PM Author: hyperventilating vigorous mad cow disease I wasnt around for this thread first time around.
OP sry bro but ur sick in the head. A lot of fucking greedy fucks in this world, many of whom are poormos. But to begrudge a working class person for using their time off? Gtfo |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: High-end Meetinghouse Dog Poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#36186999) |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: slap-happy bearded boiling water tanning salon Ljl at a secretary being working class you commie shithead. They are entitled, useless, lazy, idiots who are only able to continue sucking at GC's teet because of inertia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#36187261) |
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Date: October 16th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: Seedy self-absorbed regret cr. it would be irrational not to use all of the sick days in this scenario. if they want to clamp down on this they should just go to unlimited sick days, which would make it seem less like an entitlement that you have to use up and more like an actual way to deal with employee health (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#38989308) |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:08 PM Author: titillating quadroon multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#39729702) |
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Date: October 16th, 2019 10:33 PM Author: peach space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#38989384) |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: Azure Cruise Ship Cuckoldry I never understood the concept of "sick days" vs. regular vacation days. like do you have to bring in a doctor's note or it doesn't count? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#39729664) |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:06 PM Author: Aromatic jade brunch black woman It's the amount of notice required. For vacation days usually have to give a weeks notice. Sick days and personal days are unplanned.
I get 6 a year. I usually take 5/6 per year. Sometimes it's good to recharge. |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:08 PM Author: Azure Cruise Ship Cuckoldry that's fucking bullshit. days off have to get approved anyways so if some butthole regularly tries to take like 2 weeks off with no notice it can just get rejected. you don't need two types of days off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#39729698) |