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Secretary uses every last one of her 10 sick days every year. Normal?
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:15 PM Author: brindle piazza We give her 3 weeks vacation, 2 weeks of sick days and 2 personal days, and she uses every one like clock work, basically getting 5 and a half weeks of vacation.
Is this the norm for people like secretaries and service workers?
Meanwhile, I haven't been too sick to come to the office in years. |
Date: January 4th, 2017 4:16 PM Author: razzle-dazzle black stag film electric furnace what's the point of having a difference between PTO and sick days. Do you need a doctor's note for sick days or some shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298350) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: brindle piazza We don't pay for accrued sick time. That's why we differentiate. Don't think you need a doctor's note. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298360) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: Topaz laughsome newt shrine If you aren't paying sick days what's the problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298365) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: brindle piazza we pay them for it, we just don't pay them if they don't use it, like you do when you don't use vacation at most places and leave the company (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298381) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: Topaz laughsome newt shrine seems like you are asking for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298398) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night lol isn't that illegal in CA?
actually no.
the reason your differentiate sick days instead of general PTO is that you HAVE to pay your employees for accrued PTO either at the end of the year, when they cash it in, or when they quit.
By making the sick time distinction you cheap cunts don't have to pay them for it or let it accrue.
So yes you are asking for it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: Chrome duck-like gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298421) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: brindle piazza It is definitely not illegal to not pay for accrued sick time.
But it is for being sick, so not sure why we'd pay them for it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night right. your abusive firm makes the sick day/PTO distinction to avoid having to roll over and pay employees for sick time they don't take, like they would with vacation days or PTO. Which is why employees obviously use it.
In other words, if you want you secretary around more often, pay her for the sick days she doesn't use. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:31 PM Author: brindle piazza or have her grow up and use sick days for being sick, which is what they are for, and how 90% of our employees use them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298483) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:33 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night Is it shocking that a $60K employee that you hire to make you coffee and open the mail does not have the same dedication to the work that you do making $500k?
Would you really expect anyone to use a vacation day rather than a sick day for a random day off? |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:38 PM Author: brindle piazza 90% of our employees making less than 100k don't use the majority of their sick days. This isn't a grocery store.
BTW, this woman made $86k with bonus last year, and she is 31 years old. |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: magical hideous place of business property Why the fuck would your cuck firm pay a useless cunt 86K? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#36187176) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: Mentally impaired temple yarmulke Conversely, there are employees who use vacation days if they're actually sick because they ran out of sick days. It doesn't matter what type of day you're taking off time that you're entitled to. This is why I hated when law firms went to unlimited vacation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298640) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: brindle piazza you are not supposed to be "entitled" to sick days....the purpose is if you are too sick to go to work, not just extra vacation....we aren't intentionally giving our employees 5.5 weeks of vacation a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298657) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:54 PM Author: deep mental disorder dysfunction Then don't give them 10 sick days a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298673) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:56 PM Author: brindle piazza you are right. We shouldn't be I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298689) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:00 PM Author: Coiffed Greedy Institution Volcanic Crater or have unlimited sick days but with doctor's note only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299133) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:51 PM Author: deep mental disorder dysfunction lol wtf, who goes to a dr for the cold? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306253) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: deep mental disorder dysfunction you have to be a woman, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306505) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:06 PM Author: Mentally impaired temple yarmulke Nobody is entitled to anything, but if you offer the benefit, it'd be disingenuous to be outraged when employees take advantage of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299162) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:16 PM Author: Mewling affirmative action You're asking for it by specifying a max # of sick days. She knows she can take them all with no repercussions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298351) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: Topaz laughsome newt shrine You need to merge vacation, sick days, and personal days into 1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298358) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:18 PM Author: brindle piazza We don't pay for accrued sick time, but do for vacation. That's why we differentiate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298370) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:28 PM Author: marvelous harsh boistinker feces "we don't want to pay for all those days. that's why we differentiate." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306547) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night she is not paid enough to work more than she is supposed to work.
I used to get annoyed when my secretary would take sick days only on Fridays, but that's what all non professional employees do. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: brindle piazza I guess it isn't surprising. We treat them like children, so they act like them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298375) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:28 PM Author: brindle piazza why? are you one of the children? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298451) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: well-lubricated lay oh what an "adult" contributing to the world through his very important rent-seeking that requires employees to be ever vigilant and in the office every day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298459) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: brindle piazza yeah, when you are a secretary, it kind of helps to be in the office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298489) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:33 PM Author: Aphrodisiac French Jap Intelligently run law firms have comprehensive backup/coverage systems in place so that this isn't an issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298498) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: brindle piazza We have many employees who don't use all their sick time every year....its called being an adult and basically defrauding their company by using sick days when they aren't sick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298399) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night if you get paid for accrued vacation but not for sick days, are you going to use a vacation day for a random day off to spend with your kids, or a sick day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298424) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:26 PM Author: bipolar learning disabled macaca My work doesn't have sick days for this reason. We just have personal days and they accrue so you are encouraged not to use them. Seems like a saner system that use it or lose it sick days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298431) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: brindle piazza how many personal days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298447) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:36 PM Author: bipolar learning disabled macaca 10 a year but they accrue. You can use them for any reason so there's not some stigma. A lot of women seem to save them up for extra maternity tho. We also have vacation days as a separate pool of days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298535) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:38 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night both have to be paid out yes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298548) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: bipolar learning disabled macaca Not in our non California offices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298571) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night your office has to pay those days out when they quit or get fired. the OP's doesn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298479) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:37 PM Author: bipolar learning disabled macaca Right but when you have use it or lose it days you shouldn't be shocked when people actually use them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298546) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night i agree. with PTO some places don't carry over, but they have use it or pay out policies, rather than use it or lose it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298558) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:39 PM Author: brindle piazza yeah, but we give 15 of those as well....so 27 days of time off per year, 17 of which accrue, 10 of which don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298561) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: well-lubricated lay oh my god FRAUD!!! seriously I hope you die in a fire. your work isn't that important you jizzrag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298448) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:30 PM Author: brindle piazza Never said it was important. But most of our employees don't do this...they use sick days for when they are...wait for it...sick! Doesn't seem like too much to ask.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298477) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:33 PM Author: well-lubricated lay your employees are just dumb wagecuck sheep who get bullshit like "you're DEFRAUDING the company!" ingrained in their heads by dickweeds like you. this is part of why america is such a SHIT place to work now when we used to be pushing the boundaries of vacation time, pension, and limiting work weeks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298502) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:47 PM Author: brindle piazza I'm not a real lib. Just think Trump is a dipshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298621) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: Naked walnut haunted graveyard Yes its normal you fucking faggot. Hillary voters are the worst (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298518) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:37 PM Author: Mentally impaired temple yarmulke Yes it is totally normal because sick days and personal days do not accrue and roll over like vacation days.
I use all my sick days and personal days before dipping into vacation days and so do all the other employees. I still come into work if I'm sick. I don't think I've ever taken a real sick day. Why does it matter whether or not she's actually sick, as long as she's taking days off that she is entitled to? |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: brindle piazza so you get 5.5 weeks a year of sick, personal and vacation days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298586) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:50 PM Author: Ebony diverse boiling water Meanwhile permanent employees in most first world countries get at least five weeks vacation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298643) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:51 PM Author: Mentally impaired temple yarmulke Yes but I take 7 days of sick and personal days and maybe 10 days of vacation, but I have to start burning vacation once I reach 8 weeks soon. Nobody cares as long as you're getting your work done. As long as your secretary is doing her job, I don't see why you would care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298654) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: brindle piazza well, fuck, its like you work in Norway or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298663) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: Mentally impaired temple yarmulke So is your issue with her that she takes sick days for actual vacation days or you think she's taking too many days off overall? Because if you guys want to get people to stop taking so many sick days, then simply reduce the sick days number. You can't have a "use it or lose it" rule and expect people not to use them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298696) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:10 PM Author: brindle piazza well, yeah. she takes 5.5 weeks of vacation. most other employees take their vacation, but then sick days when they are sick....at my old firm secretaries just took sick days when they were sick also as far as I could tell. Same for me at my jobs before law school. I assumed that was the way the world worked. I guess I'm just a tool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298789) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:57 PM Author: Mentally impaired temple yarmulke You're right most (professional) employees do not take all their vacation days because they can't take that much time off and they'd rather accrue it. But 10 sick days is a lot. I bet if you made it 5 sick days and the other 5 days as vacation, she'd have more incentive to accrue. That said, I assume your firm would rather do the sick days because it's ultimately a cost savings over paying out for vacation days.
I'm not sure why it bothers you that she take so much time off. In all my years of having a secretary, I've used them for like 1 hour/week at the most but still have to give Xmas gift and admin day gift or whatever. Your standards for an admin should be lower.
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:40 PM Author: Ebony diverse boiling water 3 weeks annual leave? What third world country are you in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298576) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: Electric Angry Mood and a sick day allowance! LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298580) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: Scarlet Meetinghouse nothing i hate more in a workplace than co-workers who get catty about colleagues taking their sick days. jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298578) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: brindle piazza agree, but she's my employee, not my co-worker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298602) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: charcoal gaped spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298660) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: costumed racy corner jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298661) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:53 PM Author: Heady Ticket Booth wants this kind of thing mandated and then is surprised when some rank and file employees "abuse" it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298671) |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:23 PM Author: dashing sinister filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33672981) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 4:59 PM Author: ruddy stirring point reading party Holy shit this thread. God damn America (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298711) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: vibrant sick location lol they all do that bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298814) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:19 PM Author: razzle-dazzle black stag film electric furnace I have to "use or lose" vacation time during the year. Is this normal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298849) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:24 PM Author: Aromatic juggernaut theater stage how does it work , you can only accrue so many hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298881) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: razzle-dazzle black stag film electric furnace Whatever I have saved up resets to zero on January 1st.
It then accrues throughout the year |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: razzle-dazzle black stag film electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298885) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: multi-colored slate market old irish cottage yeah pretty normal for wageslaves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299736) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:23 PM Author: Boyish beta church building If you only want her to use her sick days when she is actually sick, and you limit it to 10, surely you'd be fine with her taking more than 10 days if she is actually sick more than 10 days. Right? Right??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298872) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:31 PM Author: razzle-dazzle black stag film electric furnace Are you REALLY expressing yourself if you only do the bare minimum?? Look at Brian. He's wearing THIRTY. SEVEN. Pieces of flair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298919) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:39 PM Author: effete codepig philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298978) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:24 PM Author: Vigorous blue kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299313) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:26 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night On one hand, the idea of 5.5 weeks of PTO is completel foreign to me.
On the other hand, I sometimes don't go to work if I don't need to be in the office and otherwise don't feel like it. So whatever. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: brindle piazza yeah, but you can do your job remotely. Secretary won't even check email if she isn't in the office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298914) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: thriller filthy indian lodge fat ankles If you don't like it, then just properly document another reason to fire her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298953) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:36 PM Author: brindle piazza I actually otherwise really like her. The fact that she is out of the office 5.5 work weeks a year is my only complaint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298967) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:40 PM Author: bespoke queen of the night 5.5 weeks is the fringe benefit. Honestly you allocate way too much of that time as sick leave, because you want to avoid accrual or paying the time out.
You should probably just have 5 days of sick leave and then decide whether or not you want to give more PTO which you have to pay for. Might not affect your secretary but it probably would for others who like to get paid for unused PTO. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: thriller filthy indian lodge fat ankles Rate her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32298996) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: brindle piazza 6, probably a 7 10 years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299053) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: marvelous harsh boistinker feces lol. so you have a good secretary, maybe the only one in america, but still find a way to be unhappy about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306659) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:42 PM Author: red orchestra pit sneaky criminal my secretary was absent, late, or left early nearly 70 times in 2016. Basically 25% of the time.
old, tenured secretaries in biglaw firms though are basically untouchable. at my firm their leave rolls over, so she basically didn't take any for the last ten years and now that she has grandkids she just jets whenever she feels like it. |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 5:49 PM Author: brindle piazza this is why we stopped hiring olds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299056) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:52 PM Author: vibrant sick location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306264) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:54 PM Author: red orchestra pit sneaky criminal as an update, i have a filing due today and she has left for the day "because of the weather."
i have seen 5-6 flurries go past my window. |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:56 PM Author: vibrant sick location lol. yeah, they all agther around windows and blab about the weather report until the office manager lets them go home early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306289) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: vibrant sick location one of mine would yell at me that I'd better get moving if I had anything to file because she has to leave at 3 today etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306294) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 4:10 PM Author: red orchestra pit sneaky criminal update: the sun is now out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306386) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: Wonderful school cafeteria depressive This is routine among proles. They feel entitled to use all of their sick days no matter what. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299134) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: costumed racy corner jew they should be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299327) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 5:56 PM Author: Self-centered stimulating faggot firefighter Because they are entitled to them. Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33678324) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 6:33 PM Author: Adventurous pale faggotry Convert sick days to 1/2 pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299365) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: vibrant sick location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306297) |
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Date: January 4th, 2017 7:00 PM Author: Motley Liquid Oxygen Legend (ITT: Joo OP) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32299517) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:50 PM Author: Deranged crackhouse love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306247) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: Zippy persian why the fuck wouldn't she? those are HER days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32306293) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 2:09 AM Author: Soul-stirring ivory school If she can't prove shish sick she should be fired (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32429951) |
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Date: January 21st, 2017 1:24 AM Author: Naked walnut haunted graveyard Wow youre a huge faggot, big surprise there lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32422748) |
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Date: January 21st, 2017 7:04 PM Author: Deranged crackhouse love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32427444) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 2:40 AM Author: amber hissy fit step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430108) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 9:56 AM Author: bonkers state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430756) |
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Date: October 16th, 2019 10:15 PM Author: Irradiated Khaki Cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#38989282) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 10:35 AM Author: Pontificating exhilarant parlor international law enforcement agency I'm always suspicious and even contemptuous of people who don't use all their allotted leave days, whether PTO or sick.
Why not?
I'm a workaholic who routinely puts in 60+ hour weeks but you better believe I take off every single day I accrue. Only in the US do you find this weird sentiment that there's something wrong with taking all your days off. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 10:51 AM Author: tan whorehouse hunting ground Is OP Cow Goes Moo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430933) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 10:55 AM Author: puce floppy stead Hey there, friend. Let me explain something to you.
Life in corporate America is a miserable fucking slog for well adjusted, normal people. People hate wasting their lives sitting at desks.
This may come as a surprise to striver law robots, but people view days off as a benefit and take them. Only TTT nanny companies/firms differentiate between "sick days" and "vacation days" because it invites a weird discussion about what counts as what. If you offer 2 weeks of vacation and 10 days of sick days, just call it 24 days of PTO and don't act as an autistic nanny state company.
God damn, this is why I could never go back to working for someone else again. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:17 AM Author: brindle piazza I get it. We are giving way too much PTO. Whoever set up the policy at our firm didn't understand that our employees consider sick days to be extra vacation days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32431059) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:37 AM Author: puce floppy stead You are a masterful 180 troll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32431155) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 12:31 PM Author: spectacular amethyst site death wish This.
Devil's advocate: If she were actually sick all those days, would you like her coming in and getting everyone else sick?
TBF: I've left at least 6 weeks of paid sick time on the table over the last 7 years. I'm considering changing this policy and taking "well weeks" off from now on. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 9:37 PM Author: tan whorehouse hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32435477) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 9:40 PM Author: Sapphire demanding stain Seriously. He subtly continues to get more insufferable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32435523) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:07 AM Author: Honey-headed trump supporter If you are not using every last one of your paid days off every single year than you are part of the problem and I hope you die in an acid fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32430993) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2017 11:38 AM Author: puce floppy stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32431159) |
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Date: January 29th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: bonkers state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#32490460) |
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Date: April 12th, 2017 9:44 AM Author: aqua pungent trailer park sup, dood with 40 vacation days, 10 sick days, 4 unscheduled holidays and 6 weeks of reassignment leave a year here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33055658) |
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Date: April 12th, 2017 10:09 AM Author: swashbuckling chapel It is a tough problem. Employers WANT their employees to stay home when sick because otherwise they are more likely to get their colleagues sick. So overall productivity can go down when sick people come to work. If the employer just says hey, you get 24 PTO days, use them how you will, that is better for employees, but then they are loathe to stay home when sick because it means losing one of their otherwise vacation days, so it hurts employers beyond just the cost of PTO.
On the other hand, if you differentiate between vacation days and sick days, employees are more likely to stay home with a cold, etc (which employers want). However, you're also likely to see that the Friday before a long weekend an employee is suddenly "sick". Employers generally don't mind the time off here (which is why some just do PTO only), but the issue is this is always unscheduled. With PTO, you know a week or so in advance that you'll need coverage for that person, but nobody tells you a couple weeks in advance that they are going to be "sick". Employers who are more concerned about planning might go to a PTO only model whereas employees whose absence isn't that detrimental are more likely to have differentiated days. |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:21 PM Author: costumed racy corner jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33672971) |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:28 PM Author: Deranged crackhouse love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33673012) |
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Date: June 29th, 2017 10:35 PM Author: milky dead multi-billionaire Some impressive autism going on ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33673066) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 12:37 PM Author: Deranged crackhouse love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33676051) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: Self-centered stimulating faggot firefighter Her behavior is a result of the incentives you gave her. It's that simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#33676230) |
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Date: June 30th, 2017 1:09 PM Author: pearly trip fanboi I wasnt around for this thread first time around.
OP sry bro but ur sick in the head. A lot of fucking greedy fucks in this world, many of whom are poormos. But to begrudge a working class person for using their time off? Gtfo |
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Date: June 5th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: magical hideous place of business property Ljl at a secretary being working class you commie shithead. They are entitled, useless, lazy, idiots who are only able to continue sucking at GC's teet because of inertia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#36187261) |
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Date: October 16th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: Cobalt sanctuary roommate cr. it would be irrational not to use all of the sick days in this scenario. if they want to clamp down on this they should just go to unlimited sick days, which would make it seem less like an entitlement that you have to use up and more like an actual way to deal with employee health (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#38989308) |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: pink theatre toilet seat I never understood the concept of "sick days" vs. regular vacation days. like do you have to bring in a doctor's note or it doesn't count? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#39729664) |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:06 PM Author: Irradiated Khaki Cumskin It's the amount of notice required. For vacation days usually have to give a weeks notice. Sick days and personal days are unplanned.
I get 6 a year. I usually take 5/6 per year. Sometimes it's good to recharge. |
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Date: March 10th, 2020 1:08 PM Author: pink theatre toilet seat that's fucking bullshit. days off have to get approved anyways so if some butthole regularly tries to take like 2 weeks off with no notice it can just get rejected. you don't need two types of days off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481235&forum_id=2#39729698) |