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Then disguise their failures with ..."yeah I used to wo...
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chill out ted
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(3L who will last 2 years tops in biglaw)
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he's not even in law school anymore iirc
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LJL He also couldn't even get into a good lawl school
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hi, i sucked at that life, dropped out, went into academia a...
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You sound butthurt
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no...i sucked at being a lawyer. if i stuck it out, i would...
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you're the librarian bro right? cot damn im jelly
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There's definitely truth to this especially in law. 100% of ...
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Jesus no. Any job where value is priced in hours spent is ho...
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CR
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As a practical matter, "hours" = # of hours report...
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IOW hours based billing just means that INDIVIDUALS, not fir...
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Law as a field is dominated by some of the worst incentive s...
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CR
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There's just too much grinding and exhaustion in biglaw prac...
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No way
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You're lying
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If you vary the hypo to something with more relevance to the...
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Have been grinding for 9 years. Fortuitous penguin, etc.....
Doobsian cerebral business firm
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LOL NO I am far too lazy and value my free time.
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You have such a weird schtick
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(literally a guy who rails against "wagecucks" in ...
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(literal wagecuck)
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Calm down, Cohen
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a lot of times when people say "i hate something",...
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bro they have me another 50k stock option (4 year vest) afte...
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Your age?
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If you're solid, they should refresh regularly. If they don'...
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wow nice. thanks for the tip man.
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No worries. Another big thing to keep an eye out for is the ...
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refreshed?
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180
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(Freud)
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easy there Sigmund, you'll blow an artery
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ITT: dopey dumb dumb talk
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Reminder. The Op made several posts that he was gunning hard...
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Didn't he attend a TTT?
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I heard UC irvine. Pretty pathetic for an AA spic in this a...
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This is dumb, bro. Many biglawyers drop out because they com...
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People just hate change and disruption until it's forced upo...
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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: buff spot

Then disguise their failures with ..."yeah I used to work for a major corporation, but then realized there is more to life than just money..." When in reality they would have loved to stay at their company if they had gotten promoted, gotten a raise, been able to compete with co-workers...

These ppl are filth and think they're above everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655763)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Razzmatazz offensive heaven pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656885)



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Date: December 1st, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: flushed theatre roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#37333403)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: buff spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655789)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: buff spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655797)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: shimmering friendly grandma

chill out ted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655799)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Curious Black Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656495)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: buff spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656401)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: Carnelian stage

(3L who will last 2 years tops in biglaw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656407)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: multi-colored wild yarmulke

he's not even in law school anymore iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656418)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:26 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce

LJL

He also couldn't even get into a good lawl school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669766)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:58 PM
Author: brass buck-toothed brunch puppy

hi, i sucked at that life, dropped out, went into academia and have a life most people envy at 1/3 the salary. sup?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656424)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:13 PM
Author: buff spot

You sound butthurt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656491)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:07 PM
Author: brass buck-toothed brunch puppy

no...i sucked at being a lawyer. if i stuck it out, i would have been shitcanned and miserable. now im pretty happy even if i'm relatively broke. these are the tradeoffs one makes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658466)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce

you're the librarian bro right?

cot damn im jelly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32670000)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:29 PM
Author: provocative ultramarine chapel

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656591)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: blue bull headed parlor headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659028)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: Godawful dashing gas station

There's definitely truth to this especially in law. 100% of associates would grind for 10 years if there was a guaranteed v10 equity partnership at the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656496)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: beady-eyed scourge upon the earth

This is absolutely not true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656505)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:27 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669779)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:18 PM
Author: crawly site

Jesus no. Any job where value is priced in hours spent is horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656521)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:24 PM
Author: buff spot

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656557)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:58 PM
Author: Honey-headed casino

As a practical matter, "hours" = # of hours reported = # of hours ppl think they can get away with reporting = in expectation, the max # of hours that can be reported without being flagged by whatever fraud detection devices one reasonably expects will be used.

Hence it would be perfectly reasonable for a firm to separate their tangible work production, from their hours reporting. And it is just as rational to do this on an individual level.

Yet people grind themselves down trying to robotically meet a rigid hours hours requirement, when they could invest in increasing their personal efficiency, meet the facetime requirements, and then report the same number of hours.

Surely this is due to the sort of childish manichean thinking that runs rampant among lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656833)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Honey-headed casino

IOW hours based billing just means that INDIVIDUALS, not firms and clients, get to reap the benefits of innovation (real efficiency gains). Hence if anything it is a cause for celebration if you are an innovative individual - you can get a steady paycheck and advance without getting more work heaped on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656852)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:10 PM
Author: crawly site

Law as a field is dominated by some of the worst incentive structures I have ever seen.

I remember trying to convince my firm to drop my hours requirement in exchange for bringing in additional work (since I was better at building a book than grinding away). They weren't willing to compromise.

I left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656908)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: buff spot

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32657774)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:30 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce

There's just too much grinding and exhaustion in biglaw practice....the detail orientedness is awful and exhausting, the ASAP fire drills, the on call, the hours, etc.

Also it literally wastes away your entire youth. Most senior biglawyers are disgusting physical specimens of obesity, baldness, etc. ....so gross.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669816)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:25 PM
Author: Insanely creepy wonderful cuckold feces

No way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656568)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 9:25 PM
Author: Godawful dashing gas station

You're lying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658138)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: self-absorbed hall

If you vary the hypo to something with more relevance to the biglaw business model and that's more appealing it's still a somewhat tough call. e.g. 2nd year associate has college buddy who randomly hits it big and now 2nd year controls a $15M book of business. This is basically the dream biglaw scenario and it would still involve supervising a huge volume of boring ass nonsense that 2nd year's buddy would not give two shits about, but 2nd year would have to supervise properly or he could end up fucking over his friend and being disbarred. 2nd year is having to fend off another partner every week trying to get a taste, and play all the politics to make sure they get a fair share of profits. There are just much better ways to make a living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658693)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:25 PM
Author: Doobsian cerebral business firm

Have been grinding for 9 years.

Fortuitous penguin, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658979)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:26 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce

LOL NO

I am far too lazy and value my free time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669772)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: beady-eyed scourge upon the earth

You have such a weird schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656503)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: razzle foreskin

(literally a guy who rails against "wagecucks" in spite after failing in his bid for a white-collar career)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656506)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:19 PM
Author: buff spot

(literal wagecuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656529)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:22 PM
Author: razzle foreskin

guess you are too thick to realize that you are effectively describing yourself in op

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656547)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:23 PM
Author: multi-colored wild yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656549)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:26 PM
Author: Turquoise New Version Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656573)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:32 PM
Author: buff spot

Calm down, Cohen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656622)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:21 PM
Author: adventurous magical antidepressant drug

a lot of times when people say "i hate something", it's usually they hating something about themselves which they project to something else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656544)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:23 PM
Author: crawly site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656552)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: adventurous magical antidepressant drug

bro they have me another 50k stock option (4 year vest) after i had worked there for 11 month.. the second option sheet 5x'ed the first option sheet in price.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656708)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: buff spot

Your age?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656777)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:56 PM
Author: adventurous magical antidepressant drug

32

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656813)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: crawly site

If you're solid, they should refresh regularly. If they don't then vest into your first cliff and bail unless things are going super well.

Our first employee (who has been crushing it) has been refreshed 3x in his first year. Dude is killing himself for the cause and he deserves the recognition.

EDIT: I'm also big on refreshing and adjusting salary proactively. Find it has a way larger impact. We've had 0 people leave willingly in ~18months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656799)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:56 PM
Author: adventurous magical antidepressant drug

wow nice. thanks for the tip man.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656811)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: crawly site

No worries. Another big thing to keep an eye out for is the 409a price versus the last round as well as the % you get rather than the raw number of shares.

Generally, joining after Series A isn't a great idea unless the company is super well positioned or if you are there for career progression rather than trying to hit a jackpot.

Glad to hear you're out there making it happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656884)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: Doobsian cerebral business firm

refreshed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658971)



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Date: February 20th, 2017 1:21 AM
Author: Ungodly digit ratio

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659679)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:24 PM
Author: buff spot

(Freud)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656556)



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Date: December 1st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: low-t center telephone

easy there Sigmund, you'll blow an artery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#37333540)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: Sapphire startling whorehouse genital piercing

You know, it's possible that not getting BIGLAW was a huge failure on my part, AND that my life is better because of it. Both of those things could be true.

In fact, I believe both are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658701)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:31 PM
Author: blue bull headed parlor headpube

Right but you don't feel the need to lie about why you are where you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659022)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring market idea he suggested

You know what it takes to sell real estate? It takes brass balls to sell real estate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658850)



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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:30 PM
Author: blue bull headed parlor headpube

Failure is not easy to deal with man. Leave those guys alone.

It's understandable that people have a need to rationalize their fates internally and also not want to be viewed as a failure by others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659012)



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Date: February 20th, 2017 1:25 AM
Author: drab forum queen of the night

ITT: dopey dumb dumb talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659684)



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Date: February 20th, 2017 2:34 AM
Author: Stirring swollen regret

Reminder. The Op made several posts that he was gunning hard for big law. Even with affirmative action this spic couldn't cop biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659805)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:27 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce

Didn't he attend a TTT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669784)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: ruddy titillating cuckoldry institution

I heard UC irvine. Pretty pathetic for an AA spic in this application cycle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669989)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:10 PM
Author: buff spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669618)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:20 PM
Author: buff spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669723)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:28 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce

This is dumb, bro. Many biglawyers drop out because they come from family money or married rich and no longer need to grind. Reminder: not working for money >>>> working for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669790)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:28 PM
Author: light supple base

People just hate change and disruption until it's forced upon them. Those who are successful at a job tend to care a lot more than those who fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669791)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:39 PM
Author: swashbuckling senate goyim

((()))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669927)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Rose Public Bath

OP:

"If the job would have been more psychologically, socially, and financially rewarding, the cost-benefit analysis would have changed."

Great insight.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669963)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:45 PM
Author: Hairraiser Cruise Ship Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669977)



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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Sexy galvanic people who are hurt weed whacker

depends on whether they seem like they've found something they genuinely think is more important to do with their lives or if they are obviously rationalizing away their failures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32670006)



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Date: December 1st, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Godawful dashing gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#37333392)