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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:17 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building Then disguise their failures with ..."yeah I used to work for a major corporation, but then realized there is more to life than just money..." When in reality they would have loved to stay at their company if they had gotten promoted, gotten a raise, been able to compete with co-workers... These ppl are filth and think they're above everyone. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: Avocado Embarrassed To The Bone Area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656885) |
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Date: December 1st, 2018 6:21 PM Author: Excitant Hairless Personal Credit Line Hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#37333403) |
Date: February 19th, 2017 3:20 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655789) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:21 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655797) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 3:22 PM Author: burgundy address boistinker chill out ted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32655799) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: Thriller Meetinghouse National Security Agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656495) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656401) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: glittery round eye (3L who will last 2 years tops in biglaw) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656407) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:57 PM Author: very tactful hell travel guidebook he's not even in law school anymore iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656418) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:26 PM Author: floppy affirmative action LJL
He also couldn't even get into a good lawl school |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: fishy orchestra pit hi, i sucked at that life, dropped out, went into academia and have a life most people envy at 1/3 the salary. sup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656424) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:13 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building You sound butthurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656491) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:07 PM Author: fishy orchestra pit no...i sucked at being a lawyer. if i stuck it out, i would have been shitcanned and miserable. now im pretty happy even if i'm relatively broke. these are the tradeoffs one makes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658466) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:48 PM Author: floppy affirmative action you're the librarian bro right?
cot damn im jelly |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:29 PM Author: nighttime aromatic mother 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656591) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:32 PM Author: Mewling public bath depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659028) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: metal lilac psychic reading party There's definitely truth to this especially in law. 100% of associates would grind for 10 years if there was a guaranteed v10 equity partnership at the end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656496) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:16 PM Author: wonderful coffee pot This is absolutely not true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656505) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:27 PM Author: floppy affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669779) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:18 PM Author: maniacal lay striped hyena Jesus no. Any job where value is priced in hours spent is horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656521) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:24 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656557) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:58 PM Author: razzle-dazzle main people rigpig As a practical matter, "hours" = # of hours reported = # of hours ppl think they can get away with reporting = in expectation, the max # of hours that can be reported without being flagged by whatever fraud detection devices one reasonably expects will be used.
Hence it would be perfectly reasonable for a firm to separate their tangible work production, from their hours reporting. And it is just as rational to do this on an individual level.
Yet people grind themselves down trying to robotically meet a rigid hours hours requirement, when they could invest in increasing their personal efficiency, meet the facetime requirements, and then report the same number of hours.
Surely this is due to the sort of childish manichean thinking that runs rampant among lawyers. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: razzle-dazzle main people rigpig IOW hours based billing just means that INDIVIDUALS, not firms and clients, get to reap the benefits of innovation (real efficiency gains). Hence if anything it is a cause for celebration if you are an innovative individual - you can get a steady paycheck and advance without getting more work heaped on you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656852) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: maniacal lay striped hyena Law as a field is dominated by some of the worst incentive structures I have ever seen.
I remember trying to convince my firm to drop my hours requirement in exchange for bringing in additional work (since I was better at building a book than grinding away). They weren't willing to compromise.
I left. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 8:22 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32657774) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:30 PM Author: floppy affirmative action There's just too much grinding and exhaustion in biglaw practice....the detail orientedness is awful and exhausting, the ASAP fire drills, the on call, the hours, etc.
Also it literally wastes away your entire youth. Most senior biglawyers are disgusting physical specimens of obesity, baldness, etc. ....so gross. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: Rough-skinned selfie No way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656568) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 9:25 PM Author: metal lilac psychic reading party You're lying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658138) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:42 PM Author: Mind-boggling magical jew heaven If you vary the hypo to something with more relevance to the biglaw business model and that's more appealing it's still a somewhat tough call. e.g. 2nd year associate has college buddy who randomly hits it big and now 2nd year controls a $15M book of business. This is basically the dream biglaw scenario and it would still involve supervising a huge volume of boring ass nonsense that 2nd year's buddy would not give two shits about, but 2nd year would have to supervise properly or he could end up fucking over his friend and being disbarred. 2nd year is having to fend off another partner every week trying to get a taste, and play all the politics to make sure they get a fair share of profits. There are just much better ways to make a living. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658693) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Disturbing Stirring Son Of Senegal Have been grinding for 9 years.
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:26 PM Author: floppy affirmative action LOL NO
I am far too lazy and value my free time. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:16 PM Author: coral casino (literally a guy who rails against "wagecucks" in spite after failing in his bid for a white-collar career) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656506) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:19 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building (literal wagecuck) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656529) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:32 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building Calm down, Cohen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656622) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: silver party of the first part parlor a lot of times when people say "i hate something", it's usually they hating something about themselves which they project to something else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656544) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:43 PM Author: silver party of the first part parlor bro they have me another 50k stock option (4 year vest) after i had worked there for 11 month.. the second option sheet 5x'ed the first option sheet in price. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656708) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:51 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building Your age? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32656777) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 5:55 PM Author: maniacal lay striped hyena If you're solid, they should refresh regularly. If they don't then vest into your first cliff and bail unless things are going super well.
Our first employee (who has been crushing it) has been refreshed 3x in his first year. Dude is killing himself for the cause and he deserves the recognition.
EDIT: I'm also big on refreshing and adjusting salary proactively. Find it has a way larger impact. We've had 0 people leave willingly in ~18months |
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Generally, joining after Series A isn't a great idea unless the company is super well positioned or if you are there for career progression rather than trying to hit a jackpot.
Glad to hear you're out there making it happen. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:24 PM Author: Disturbing Stirring Son Of Senegal refreshed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658971) |
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Date: December 1st, 2018 6:54 PM Author: Ruby Elite Field easy there Sigmund, you'll blow an artery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#37333540) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 10:43 PM Author: scarlet hall police squad You know, it's possible that not getting BIGLAW was a huge failure on my part, AND that my life is better because of it. Both of those things could be true.
In fact, I believe both are. |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: Mewling public bath depressive Right but you don't feel the need to lie about why you are where you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659022) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: pearl bespoke location You know what it takes to sell real estate? It takes brass balls to sell real estate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32658850) |
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Date: February 19th, 2017 11:30 PM Author: Mewling public bath depressive Failure is not easy to deal with man. Leave those guys alone.
It's understandable that people have a need to rationalize their fates internally and also not want to be viewed as a failure by others. |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 1:25 AM Author: Pearly garrison giraffe ITT: dopey dumb dumb talk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659684) |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 2:34 AM Author: Alcoholic smoky parlour Reminder. The Op made several posts that he was gunning hard for big law. Even with affirmative action this spic couldn't cop biglaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32659805) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:27 PM Author: floppy affirmative action Didn't he attend a TTT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669784) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:47 PM Author: ivory coiffed ticket booth cuck I heard UC irvine. Pretty pathetic for an AA spic in this application cycle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669989) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:10 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669618) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:20 PM Author: carmine stimulating potus church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669723) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:28 PM Author: floppy affirmative action This is dumb, bro. Many biglawyers drop out because they come from family money or married rich and no longer need to grind. Reminder: not working for money >>>> working for money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669790) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:28 PM Author: Costumed Milk Electric Furnace People just hate change and disruption until it's forced upon them. Those who are successful at a job tend to care a lot more than those who fail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669791) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:39 PM Author: Rose Histrionic Stage ((())) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669927) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:43 PM Author: Light appetizing business firm OP:
"If the job would have been more psychologically, socially, and financially rewarding, the cost-benefit analysis would have changed."
Great insight.
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:45 PM Author: floppy affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32669977) |
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Date: February 21st, 2017 2:49 PM Author: Big Base depends on whether they seem like they've found something they genuinely think is more important to do with their lives or if they are obviously rationalizing away their failures (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#32670006) |
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Date: December 1st, 2018 6:19 PM Author: metal lilac psychic reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3530729&forum_id=2#37333392) |