Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM Author: Disrespectful Tripping State Idea He Suggested
It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.
They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.
Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680625) |
Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM Author: Mind-boggling Foreskin Stage
you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.
which groups of immigrants?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680701) |
Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM Author: idiotic athletic conference
I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.
It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.
Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."
THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.
Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM Author: Jade doobsian death wish
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states
You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680757) |
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