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Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?

is this true? what is it based on?
Sepia domesticated theater
  02/22/17
based on fake academic "research."
Razzle-dazzle sex offender
  02/23/17
It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.
Marvelous really tough guy theatre
  02/22/17
No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo
Provocative Range
  02/22/17
THIS
ruby mewling senate
  02/22/17
Rofl
Scarlet Cerebral Piazza
  02/23/17
It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the...
swashbuckling locus bbw
  02/22/17
...
stimulating balding azn
  02/22/17
also, does this take into account country of origin?
Sepia domesticated theater
  02/22/17
I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.
swashbuckling locus bbw
  02/22/17
Wait. What? Explain how you believe this: "Trump has...
Submissive Floppy Point
  02/23/17
It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tri...
beady-eyed set
  02/23/17
is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget
Sinister shrine prole
  02/23/17
You're such a retard paulie
thriller milky location
  02/23/17
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Ungodly Yarmulke Party Of The First Part
  02/23/17
you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the...
multi-colored menage
  02/22/17
I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They...
silver jew gunner
  02/22/17
...
Deep Rehab
  02/23/17
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminal...
Harsh home antidepressant drug
  02/22/17
Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel sa...
Sadistic business firm
  02/23/17
Not when you control for blacks
Deep Rehab
  02/23/17
Libs are deranged
thriller milky location
  02/23/17
Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought ove...
abusive self-centered plaza
  02/23/17
Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself ...
Alcoholic fluffy garrison idea he suggested
  02/23/17
Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crim...
flickering public bath associate
  02/23/17


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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Sepia domesticated theater

is this true? what is it based on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680598)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle sex offender

based on fake academic "research."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683367)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: Marvelous really tough guy theatre

It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680616)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: Provocative Range

No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680622)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: ruby mewling senate

THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680721)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Scarlet Cerebral Piazza

Rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683425)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: swashbuckling locus bbw

It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.

They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.

Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680625)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: stimulating balding azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680681)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: Sepia domesticated theater

also, does this take into account country of origin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680685)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: swashbuckling locus bbw

I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680710)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: Submissive Floppy Point

Wait. What?

Explain how you believe this: "Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682426)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:39 AM
Author: beady-eyed set

It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tried to ban green card holders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682448)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: Sinister shrine prole

is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682931)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:46 AM
Author: thriller milky location

You're such a retard paulie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683031)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: Ungodly Yarmulke Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683376)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: multi-colored menage

you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.

which groups of immigrants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680701)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: silver jew gunner

I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.

It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.

Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."

THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.

Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680718)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: Deep Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682929)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: Harsh home antidepressant drug

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states

You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:29 AM
Author: Sadistic business firm

Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel safer in a white neighborhood or in some LA "barrio". Trust your gut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682436)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:21 AM
Author: Deep Rehab

Not when you control for blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682925)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:48 AM
Author: thriller milky location

Libs are deranged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683037)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: abusive self-centered plaza

Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought over on H1B visas and every Azn brought over on a student visa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683326)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: Alcoholic fluffy garrison idea he suggested

Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself is pretty meaningless since it includes vastly different groups of people coming here for vastly different reasons. Yet shitlibs still love talking about "immigrants".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683345)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: flickering public bath associate

Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crime are probably the ones looting, burning and raping now for no reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683371)