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Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?

is this true? what is it based on?
Big shaky rehab
  02/22/17
based on fake academic "research."
green sandwich
  02/23/17
It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.
Emerald Turdskin Lodge
  02/22/17
No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo
Bonkers Charismatic Useless Brakes Cuckold
  02/22/17
THIS
Chrome regret senate
  02/22/17
Rofl
self-absorbed state main people
  02/23/17
It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the...
bright low-t telephone
  02/22/17
...
Pearly friendly grandma
  02/22/17
also, does this take into account country of origin?
Big shaky rehab
  02/22/17
I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.
bright low-t telephone
  02/22/17
Wait. What? Explain how you believe this: "Trump has...
sick twisted lay
  02/23/17
It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tri...
snowy crackhouse halford
  02/23/17
is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget
laughsome infuriating hall filthpig
  02/23/17
You're such a retard paulie
anal citrine gay wizard ape
  02/23/17
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French kitchen skinny woman
  02/23/17
you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the...
massive sweet tailpipe hissy fit
  02/22/17
I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They...
sadistic national rigor
  02/22/17
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Racy principal's office kitty
  02/23/17
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminal...
frum theater stage police squad
  02/22/17
Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel sa...
Cordovan mind-boggling orchestra pit
  02/23/17
Not when you control for blacks
Racy principal's office kitty
  02/23/17
Libs are deranged
anal citrine gay wizard ape
  02/23/17
Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought ove...
Ocher Aphrodisiac Pervert Circlehead
  02/23/17
Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself ...
curious den windowlicker
  02/23/17
Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crim...
cream razzle-dazzle trust fund azn
  02/23/17


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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Big shaky rehab

is this true? what is it based on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680598)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: green sandwich

based on fake academic "research."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683367)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: Emerald Turdskin Lodge

It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680616)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: Bonkers Charismatic Useless Brakes Cuckold

No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680622)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: Chrome regret senate

THIS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680721)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: self-absorbed state main people

Rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683425)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: bright low-t telephone

It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.

They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.

Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680625)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: Pearly friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680681)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: Big shaky rehab

also, does this take into account country of origin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680685)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: bright low-t telephone

I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680710)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: sick twisted lay

Wait. What?

Explain how you believe this: "Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682426)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:39 AM
Author: snowy crackhouse halford

It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tried to ban green card holders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682448)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: laughsome infuriating hall filthpig

is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682931)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:46 AM
Author: anal citrine gay wizard ape

You're such a retard paulie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683031)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: French kitchen skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683376)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: massive sweet tailpipe hissy fit

you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.

which groups of immigrants?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680701)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: sadistic national rigor

I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.

It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.

Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."

THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.

Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680718)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM
Author: Racy principal's office kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682929)



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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: frum theater stage police squad

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states

You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680757)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:29 AM
Author: Cordovan mind-boggling orchestra pit

Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel safer in a white neighborhood or in some LA "barrio". Trust your gut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682436)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:21 AM
Author: Racy principal's office kitty

Not when you control for blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682925)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:48 AM
Author: anal citrine gay wizard ape

Libs are deranged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683037)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: Ocher Aphrodisiac Pervert Circlehead

Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought over on H1B visas and every Azn brought over on a student visa?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683326)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: curious den windowlicker

Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself is pretty meaningless since it includes vastly different groups of people coming here for vastly different reasons. Yet shitlibs still love talking about "immigrants".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683345)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: cream razzle-dazzle trust fund azn

Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crime are probably the ones looting, burning and raping now for no reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683371)