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Liberals say Immigrant crime rate is lower than native-born...true?
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:20 PM Author: scarlet temple is this true? what is it based on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680598) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:50 AM Author: cream dashing trailer park based on fake academic "research." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683367) |
Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Big bronze parlor It's probably true for LEGAL immigrants to the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680616) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:23 PM Author: diverse unholy theater No -- source http://amzn.to/2kOp5Bo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680622) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM Author: Vibrant rambunctious center THIS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680721) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:03 AM Author: provocative snowy stage ceo Rofl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683425) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:24 PM Author: Elite Nursing Home It very well could be, but smart people know not to play the lying liberals' game.
They intentionally conflate LEGAL with ILLEGAL immigrants.
Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one. So the stat that "immigrants" have a lower crime rate than native born, even if true, can be tossed out. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM Author: ruby area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680681) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:28 PM Author: scarlet temple also, does this take into account country of origin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680685) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:31 PM Author: Elite Nursing Home I don't know and I don't care. It's a useless stat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32680710) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:19 AM Author: spectacular meetinghouse Wait. What?
Explain how you believe this: "Trump has no problem with legal immigrants. In fact, he is married to one." |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:39 AM Author: fragrant queen of the night It's almost as if they conveniently forget he and Bannon tried to ban green card holders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682448) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM Author: Citrine exhilarant cuck parlour is Melania from Yemen or Sudan? I always forget (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682931) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:46 AM Author: curious garnet rehab pocket flask You're such a retard paulie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683031) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:52 AM Author: flatulent swashbuckling psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683376) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:30 PM Author: Lavender bat-shit-crazy depressive you'd have to slice up the native population by race and the immigration population by national origin and legal status and compare each chunk against each other chunk for such a broad measure to have meaning. there is no such class as "immigrants" for something like crime stats.
which groups of immigrants? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:32 PM Author: Laughsome resort I looked up some of these alleged studies this weekend. They're all hidden behind ridiculous Internet paywalls. I was often only the sixth person to read them.
It turns out that neither Piquero nor Bersani compared immigrant crime to "the overall population" -- as the British Guardian recently claimed in an article purporting to prove Donald Trump wrong. Rather, they compare immigrants' crime rate to the crime rate of America's most criminally inclined subgroups.
Thus, for example, once you get past the paywall, you will find that Piquero and Bersani's joint study, "Comparing Patterns and Predictors of Immigrant Offending Among a Sample of Adjudicated Youth," used as its base group "adolescents who were found guilty of a serious offense."
THAT'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF AMERICANS! It's a representative sample of teenagers who are convicted criminals.
Similarly, professor Bersani's oft-cited, but never-read study, "An Examination of First and Second Generation Immigrant Offending Trajectories," looked at a population group that included "an over-sample of Hispanic and African-American youth."
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-07-15.html |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:23 AM Author: Soggy dopamine house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682929) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2017 9:36 PM Author: Racy mildly autistic station water buffalo https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states
You can see various rhetorical devices used in the link above. Depends a lot on spurious associations (between 1990 and 2013, crime decreased, but immigration greatly increased, ergo immigrants commit less crime) and apples to oranges comparisons. Something to keep in mind is that mean U.S. crime rates include blacks, who commit vastly disproportionate amounts of crime. So comparing immigrants to citizens as a group fails to take into account that immigrant crime rate is higher than white crime rate specifically. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:29 AM Author: Overrated smoky gay wizard Just stop and think about it for a second. Would you feel safer in a white neighborhood or in some LA "barrio". Trust your gut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682436) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:21 AM Author: Soggy dopamine house Not when you control for blacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32682925) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:48 AM Author: curious garnet rehab pocket flask Libs are deranged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683037) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:41 AM Author: Vigorous Talking Address Does "immigrant" include all the turds brought over on H1B visas and every Azn brought over on a student visa? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683326) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:45 AM Author: lilac bawdyhouse candlestick maker Its almost as if "immigrant" as a class by itself is pretty meaningless since it includes vastly different groups of people coming here for vastly different reasons. Yet shitlibs still love talking about "immigrants". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683345) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:51 AM Author: frisky jet mediation Yea, native Swedes who historically have committed zero crime are probably the ones looting, burning and raping now for no reason (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533923&forum_id=2#32683371) |