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Mexican kid in Anaheim said 'I'll sue you" but cop thought he said "I'll shoot u

Mind you, the cop was an off duty cop from the LAPD who live...
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wish the cop had killed you
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Cr fuck cops always cheer when they get got
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Video of the incident. Shot is fired at 2:30. https://you...
Diverse chocolate giraffe
  02/23/17
bravo..lesson learned..gunfire disburses unruly mobs when th...
fishy house
  02/23/17
Jfc that was a boring video
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  02/23/17
hate #blm, but that cop needs prison
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  02/23/17
lol, so you're taking his mom's word for it?
chestnut university
  02/23/17
We lost a future lawyer today
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sapphire theatre persian
  02/23/17
no one got shot in this incident
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  02/23/17
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"don't mess with me," sneered the rat-faced Mexica...
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no one was shot in this incident
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cool
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Why did he grab the fucking kid in the first place? Did he e...
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I saw the video. It's hard for me to believe that's even a r...
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i dont really understand what was going on at the beginning ...
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uh, did you miss the part where the guy spent two minutues g...
Diverse chocolate giraffe
  02/23/17
yeah so i have no idea what happened before that or if that ...
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  02/23/17
"Wait til we get all the facth!"
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  02/23/17
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lemon point
  02/23/17
Cop is fukt based on this video. Kid was being held facedown...
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  02/23/17
no one was hit by the gunshot
Diverse chocolate giraffe
  02/23/17
lol so he fired what was likely a warning shot? Then who car...
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Oh, so no one was killt? Oh, then nothing to see here. ...
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Some Mexican kid jumped a fence and was reaching into his ba...
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  02/23/17
Update: Cop not arrested until police "finish their in...
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Better video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8jIPZ5CP9I ...
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i still dont understand what happened. wtf is this pig doing...
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Cop was pissed that Mexican kids walk across his lawn on the...
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ty for this summary. i watched both vids and couldnt really ...
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Cop should walk and keep his job. Beaner kids look like scum...
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did he have a right to detain the punk kid until the cops sh...
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firing a warning shot is always unsafe and not allowed. I...
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was the detention illegal? i assume an off-duty cop is treat...
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LAPD cops are extremely incompetent. Jews run Los Angeles an...
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"Beaner kids look like scum..." That's racist ...
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they're just ugly third world peoples who cant speak proper ...
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technically we invaded theirs first.
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"Minorities have to be removed from the country in a sy...
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  02/23/17
What? They're getting out and they're getting out fast.
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Anaheim is a Hispanic city
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He should just fucking move if it bothers him so much. Grabb...
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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:12 AM
Author: Histrionic Flirting Macaca

Mind you, the cop was an off duty cop from the LAPD who lives in Anaheim. Orange County cops are 180 as fuck but LAPD cops are pure garbage. The faggot cop had no right to do what he did. And I'm a Trump supporter who hates spics, niggers, and Jews. And that LAPD cop was in the wrong. Think I'm bullshitting? You've never had to deal with LAPD cops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32682511)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:45 AM
Author: Translucent library

wish the cop had killed you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32682617)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:49 AM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32682625)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:36 AM
Author: laughsome hyperactive lay antidepressant drug



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:21 AM
Author: Marvelous multi-billionaire incel

harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683203)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 1:50 PM
Author: Translucent library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32691837)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:04 PM
Author: slate fighting center masturbator



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:42 PM
Author: infuriating spectacular church building people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32687593)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:13 AM
Author: Histrionic Flirting Macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32682515)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 4:01 AM
Author: pontificating pocket flask

Cr fuck cops always cheer when they get got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32682655)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:33 AM
Author: Diverse chocolate giraffe

Video of the incident. Shot is fired at 2:30.

https://youtu.be/3mEpZUUsWvs

This is why we need to allow guns in schools and kids to conceal carry. If they had been armed they could have shot back at the cop instead of run away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32682968)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:06 PM
Author: fishy house

bravo..lesson learned..gunfire disburses unruly mobs when they attack.ARM UP ANERICA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685013)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: racy resort jewess

Jfc that was a boring video

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685557)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:50 AM
Author: glittery police squad genital piercing

hate #blm, but that cop needs prison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683046)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:12 AM
Author: chestnut university

lol, so you're taking his mom's word for it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683164)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:12 AM
Author: floppy insanely creepy locus

We lost a future lawyer today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683171)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:20 AM
Author: sapphire theatre persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683529)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Diverse chocolate giraffe

no one got shot in this incident

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683638)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:19 AM
Author: aromatic field

risten, i rove a raw enfolcement but...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683199)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 8:42 PM
Author: infuriating spectacular church building people who are hurt



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 9:21 AM
Author: Marvelous multi-billionaire incel

"don't mess with me," sneered the rat-faced Mexican kid moments before being shot and killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683205)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:19 AM
Author: floppy insanely creepy locus



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:26 AM
Author: indigo medicated ratface cuckoldry



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:29 AM
Author: federal cuckold plaza



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Diverse chocolate giraffe

no one was shot in this incident

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683642)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:44 AM
Author: sapphire theatre persian

cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683673)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: Marvelous multi-billionaire incel

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683675)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:07 PM
Author: soul-stirring mediation volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685017)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: stimulating lilac box office associate

Why did he grab the fucking kid in the first place? Did he ever identify himself as a cop? Seriously, what in the fuck is going on here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683606)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:34 AM
Author: idiotic lettuce

I saw the video. It's hard for me to believe that's even a real

cop, looked totally incompetent. Oh wait.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683608)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:35 AM
Author: Smoky psychic principal's office

i dont really understand what was going on at the beginning of the video, but right before the shot, some dude rushed and shoved the dude and the other dudes were getting pretty aggressive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683617)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: Diverse chocolate giraffe

uh, did you miss the part where the guy spent two minutues grabbing the teen by the shirt and physically manhandling him and restraining him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683628)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: Smoky psychic principal's office

yeah so i have no idea what happened before that or if that was justified

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683631)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: idiotic lettuce

"Wait til we get all the facth!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683641)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: lemon point

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685540)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: Razzle cerise corn cake piazza

Cop is fukt based on this video. Kid was being held facedown in some bushes when he shot him. I wonder if it went off accidentally while he pulled on the kid but he didn't seem too startled by it. Either way he's toast. I think his friends escalated things and made it worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683625)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: Diverse chocolate giraffe

no one was hit by the gunshot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683632)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:40 AM
Author: Razzle cerise corn cake piazza

lol so he fired what was likely a warning shot? Then who cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683649)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: stimulating lilac box office associate

Oh, so no one was killt?

Oh, then nothing to see here.

Cop gets off scott free and everyone goes home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683677)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: shimmering elite round eye

Some Mexican kid jumped a fence and was reaching into his back pocket for something right before he pulled out a gun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683667)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring brindle orchestra pit

Update: Cop not arrested until police "finish their investigation".

However, the thirteen year old kid and the other kid who pushed the cop were arrested on suspicion of battery.

This should play out well for the cops...

"Two teenagers were arrested, Anaheim police said. The 13-year-old was arrested on suspicion of battery and making criminal threats, and a 15-year-old was arrested on suspicion of assault and battery. Their names were not released because they are juveniles.

Wyatt said the off-duty officer was cooperating with the inquiry and had not been arrested. His name was not released."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-anaheim-20170221-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683818)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring brindle orchestra pit

Better video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8jIPZ5CP9I

Cop was pissed the kid walked on his lawn. Amazing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32683874)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 12:58 PM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

i still dont understand what happened. wtf is this pig doing dancing around with the kid for 5 minutes like a faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32684512)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: glittery police squad genital piercing

Cop was pissed that Mexican kids walk across his lawn on their way home from school every day. He continues to warn them to get off his lawn. They continue to cross his lawn. On the day of the incident, it's alleged that he called a Mexican girl cunt and told her to get off the lawn. The little 13-year-old told the cop to watch his mouth, The cop responded to the kid, and the kid either said I'll shoot you or I'll sue you.

The cop, claiming to have heard a criminal threat, decided to detain the kid until all the cops arrive. So he grabbed his T-shirt and would not let go fror minutes. The kid wants to be let go, and wiggles and tries to get away. One friend of the kid tries to separate the two, and another friend comes running in and throws a shoulder. At that point, the cop drags the kid over a bush, takes out his gun, and fires into the bush.

13-year-old and shoulder throwing kid get arrested. Cop walks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32684669)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 1:33 PM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

ty for this summary. i watched both vids and couldnt really understand the context.

13y/o kid seems like he'll walk. seems reasonable doubt whether he made a threat.

shoulder throwing kid: battery

cop: did he do anything out of protocol? i have no idea how to assess his liability. i assume he'll get shitcanned.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32684761)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: slate fighting center masturbator

Cop should walk and keep his job. Beaner kids look like scum, this is evident by the one kid shoulder tackling the cop into the bushes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685040)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

did he have a right to detain the punk kid until the cops showed up? is firing his gun as a warning shot as he did unsafe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685532)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Sexy Sticky Gunner

firing a warning shot is always unsafe and not allowed.

If someone is illegally detained then you can use reasonable force to resist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685550)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 5:31 PM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

was the detention illegal? i assume an off-duty cop is treated as a private citizen. he heard a subjective threat (i'll shoot you / i'll sue you), and is that enough to detain him until the cops showed up? i dont think the kid himself used an unreasonable amount of force to arrest.

what's the liability for firing a warning shot? no damages if he didnt hurt anyone. and there can be no attempt crime if there was no intent to commit a crime.

i can see firing the warning shot as being the basis for him losing his badge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32686251)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: Histrionic Flirting Macaca

LAPD cops are extremely incompetent. Jews run Los Angeles and have intimidated white cops to the point where they hate spics and niggers. Orange County is a white-run County and it doesn't have the problems Los Angeles has. Get your shit together, kikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32686571)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: maize sweet tailpipe trust fund

"Beaner kids look like scum..."

That's racist and btw, that's literally 50% of the Anaheim population right there and in some parts closer to 75%. I know that neighborhood and school district. Not really that bad unless you hate latinos like the ones in the video but they're not dangerous or gang members.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32689122)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 12:28 AM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

they're just ugly third world peoples who cant speak proper english who have invaded are country



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32689135)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 12:31 AM
Author: maize sweet tailpipe trust fund

technically we invaded theirs first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32689160)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: salmon sanctuary

Cops need killing. These guys are worse than the criminals, I'm telling you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32684715)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 1:34 PM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

cops are pigs, yes. but what's an ordinary citizen in a white neighborhood that's becoming increasingly infested with low-life beaners to do when "teens" start loitering on your property every day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32684769)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 1:46 PM
Author: salmon sanctuary

Minorities have to be removed from the country in a systematic and humane way. That's the only rational course of action.

I never accept the idea that law enforcement is advancing a cause by doling out ad hoc abuse/murder to minorities. It's not productive and it's not done with constructive intentions.

It's like watching someone getting off on torturing animals. They just like being violent and beating up weaklings. They are human garbage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32684856)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:29 PM
Author: Alcoholic effete brunch

"Minorities have to be removed from the country in a systematic and humane way. That's the only rational course of action."

what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32688319)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 11:19 PM
Author: salmon sanctuary

What? They're getting out and they're getting out fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32688652)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:14 PM
Author: shimmering elite round eye

Anaheim is a Hispanic city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685051)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: slate fighting center masturbator



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Date: February 24th, 2017 12:36 AM
Author: vigorous stag film

He should just fucking move if it bothers him so much. Grabbing a kid and wrestling with him for 5 minutes while he's strapped is dumb as shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32689175)



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Date: February 24th, 2017 12:50 AM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge

know any good taco places, spic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32689222)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: racy resort jewess

most shocking thing about this story should be that a suburb in Orange County, California is indistinguishable from Mexico City

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32685584)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 5:31 PM
Author: charismatic bat-shit-crazy generalized bond lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3534126&forum_id=2#32686254)



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Date: February 23rd, 2017 10:34 PM
Author: Histrionic Flirting Macaca



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