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where the fuck is the new EO?

Trump better not have been cucked.
Balding abode
  02/26/17
the hasty roll out is what fucked him last time. you should ...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
the best legal minds at jones day need a month to rewrite th...
Excitant internet-worthy ceo
  02/26/17
Trump didn't do them any favors by specifically calling for ...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
We've always prioritized religious minorities
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
we've never banned a religion though in conjunction with doi...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
And we still haven't banned a religion. 85% of Muslims weren...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
its established case law that don't need to show that every ...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
85% though? That's not effective discrimination.
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
tell it to the judge bro. also, if i were you id be disap...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
lol at your appeal to authority
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
its very simple: 1. Constitution <-- means whatever ju...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
lol at jones day
Balding abode
  02/26/17
Trumptards: "HE ISN'T A POLITICIAN, HE ISN'T AFRAID TO ...
Embarrassed to the bone duck-like menage
  02/26/17
and that's what fucked him
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
not a lawyer, but are judges supposed to consider the mindse...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886),[1] was the first ca...
Pungent Adventurous Heaven
  02/26/17
The equal protection clause doesn't apply to non-citizens no...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
The due process clause does. You're not a lawyer. I'd sugge...
Pungent Adventurous Heaven
  02/26/17
yes it does. from the Yick Wo link: "Even though the...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
We're talking about "people" not on US soil though...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
they'll easily find a plaintiff in the US who is being depri...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
that was for former slaves
territorial sienna plaza party of the first part
  02/26/17
and the term "Citizens" used to mean people who ow...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
yes and no. the plaintiffs would still need evidence that's ...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
1) EPC doesn't apply to people in Somalia 2) we've priorit...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
1) yes it does. see above. 2) this is the government's b...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, ...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
Not sure if serious
Pungent Adventurous Heaven
  02/26/17
keep reading nor shall any State deprive any PERSON of li...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
persons are people under the jurisdiction of the United Stat...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
LOL
Pungent Adventurous Heaven
  02/26/17
a muslim and a christain both get off a plane from Somalia a...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
The point is that they wouldn't be issued green cards to com...
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
sorry bro. if you're appearing before a US judge arguing tha...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  02/26/17
That's circular reasoning
wonderful ocher library crotch
  02/26/17
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. why don'...
passionate parlour
  02/26/17
if they're in custody of US officials they're absolutely und...
Transparent hairraiser sound barrier organic girlfriend
  02/26/17
Barron's still drafting it
Exciting up-to-no-good travel guidebook chapel
  02/26/17
if he as a sailor is like my retired uncle is, he is 100% CO...
Transparent hairraiser sound barrier organic girlfriend
  02/26/17
...
Bateful house-broken market
  02/26/17
loved reading Jared Kushner tp's crack legal analysis ITT lm...
passionate parlour
  02/26/17
Titclmao
Pungent Adventurous Heaven
  02/26/17
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Balding abode
  02/28/17
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Balding abode
  02/28/17
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Balding abode
  03/01/17
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW EO?
Balding abode
  03/02/17
...
Balding abode
  03/03/17
they'll release it after some bad news about the Russian inv...
passionate parlour
  03/03/17
...
Balding abode
  03/04/17
He's too busy golfing and tweeting.
Provocative Light Area
  03/04/17
...
Balding abode
  03/05/17
he's issuing a separate one for each port of entry. Takes a...
disgusting national
  03/05/17
...
glittery effete liquid oxygen
  03/16/17


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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: Balding abode

Trump better not have been cucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703553)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

the hasty roll out is what fucked him last time. you should be happy he's taking his time with this one.

with that said, it will still be vulnerable to legal challenges no matter how they word it thanks to Trump's prior statements re: banning muslims while prioritizing christain refugees. it makes it easier to argue that the order is discriminatory AS APPLIED regardless of whether the text is religiously neutral.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703576)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: Excitant internet-worthy ceo

the best legal minds at jones day need a month to rewrite this damn thing? wtf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703585)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

Trump didn't do them any favors by specifically calling for a MUSLIM BAN before implementing the thing, not to mention saying that the harsh vetting would not apply to Christians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703597)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

We've always prioritized religious minorities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703611)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

we've never banned a religion though in conjunction with doing so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703653)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:54 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

And we still haven't banned a religion. 85% of Muslims weren't covered by the EO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703678)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

its established case law that don't need to show that every member of a class is affected in order to show discriminatory intent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703814)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

85% though? That's not effective discrimination.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703820)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

tell it to the judge bro.

also, if i were you id be disappointed that my shit candidate fucked up all the nudge nudge wink wink discrimination you guys used to get away with. you're supposed to keep that stuff on the DL. Trump fucked it up by being all explicit about it. there's a ton of people in the GOP who are pissed at him for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703836)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

lol at your appeal to authority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703854)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

its very simple:

1. Constitution <-- means whatever judges say

2. Statutes <-- means whatever judges say and can't conflict w/ #1

3. Executive orders <-- means whatever judges say and can't conflict w/ #1 or #2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703871)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: Balding abode

lol at jones day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703599)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:38 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone duck-like menage

Trumptards: "HE ISN'T A POLITICIAN, HE ISN'T AFRAID TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT HE FEELS!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703594)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

and that's what fucked him



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703605)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

not a lawyer, but are judges supposed to consider the mindset of the person who wrote a law when deciding the constitutionality of said law? Like if President Cruz were proposing this it wouldn't be an issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703607)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: Pungent Adventurous Heaven

Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886),[1] was the first case where the United States Supreme Court ruled that a law that is race-neutral on its face, but is administered in a prejudicial manner, is an infringement of the Equal Protection Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703616)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

The equal protection clause doesn't apply to non-citizens not in the United States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703627)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: Pungent Adventurous Heaven

The due process clause does. You're not a lawyer. I'd suggest sticking with asking the questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703634)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

yes it does. from the Yick Wo link:

"Even though the Chinese laundry owners were usually not American citizens, the court ruled they were still entitled to equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins

Also, the EP clause specifically applies to PERSONS, not citizens:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703641)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

We're talking about "people" not on US soil though. Aka not subject to jurisdiction of he US. The laundromat owners were obviously in the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703650)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

they'll easily find a plaintiff in the US who is being deprived of DP and/or EP because their spouse is being prevented from entering the US due to their religion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703660)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:56 PM
Author: territorial sienna plaza party of the first part

that was for former slaves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703688)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

and the term "Citizens" used to mean people who owned slaves or could own slaves. it means something else now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703724)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

yes and no. the plaintiffs would still need evidence that's its actually being APPLIED in a discriminatory manner, i.e., an actual instance of this happening (which they'll be able to find). the gov't will then argue that the instance is merely coincidental, and that there was no discriminatory intent. the plaintiffs' lawyers will then point to this as evidence of discriminatory intent:

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/donald-trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-the-united-states/?utm_term=.7bf335b0bd73

Trump says US will prioritize Christian refugees

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-christian-refugees/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703626)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

1) EPC doesn't apply to people in Somalia

2) we've prioritized religious minorities for a long time. Look at the policy towards Jews in the USSR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703633)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

1) yes it does. see above.

2) this is the government's best argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703646)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

People in Somalia are not in the United States.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703655)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: Pungent Adventurous Heaven

Not sure if serious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703659)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

keep reading

nor shall any State deprive any PERSON of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703663)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

persons are people under the jurisdiction of the United States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703673)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:54 PM
Author: Pungent Adventurous Heaven

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703679)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

a muslim and a christain both get off a plane from Somalia at JFK. us officials (whether law enforcement or the courts) permit the christian to enter the country but not the muslim. there's nothing else different about them aside from their religion (hell, let's make them twins for purposes of this exercise). this would be a violation of the EP clause since the government is not affording equal protection of the law to two persons within its jurisdiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703713)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

The point is that they wouldn't be issued green cards to come to the US in the first place. Once they're here that's a different story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703828)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen

sorry bro. if you're appearing before a US judge arguing that you were wrongfully denied entry, that's an issue that's within the judge's jurisdiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703853)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:29 PM
Author: wonderful ocher library crotch

That's circular reasoning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703860)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:33 PM
Author: passionate parlour

you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. why don't you try stfu for awhile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703878)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: Transparent hairraiser sound barrier organic girlfriend

if they're in custody of US officials they're absolutely under the jx of the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703850)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: Exciting up-to-no-good travel guidebook chapel

Barron's still drafting it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703608)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: Transparent hairraiser sound barrier organic girlfriend

if he as a sailor is like my retired uncle is, he is 100% CONVINCED he's an expert on the Constitution because he spent years working for a JAG even though he didnt' have a college degree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703839)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: Bateful house-broken market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703872)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: passionate parlour

loved reading Jared Kushner tp's crack legal analysis ITT lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703864)



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Date: February 26th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: Pungent Adventurous Heaven

Titclmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32703870)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 2:38 AM
Author: Balding abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32717115)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: Balding abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32718559)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Balding abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32727393)



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Date: March 2nd, 2017 10:15 PM
Author: Balding abode

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW EO?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32740408)



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Date: March 3rd, 2017 8:14 AM
Author: Balding abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32742191)



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Date: March 3rd, 2017 8:34 AM
Author: passionate parlour

they'll release it after some bad news about the Russian investigation comes out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32742262)



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Date: March 4th, 2017 8:42 AM
Author: Balding abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32749810)



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Date: March 4th, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: Provocative Light Area

He's too busy golfing and tweeting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32750663)



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Date: March 5th, 2017 10:38 PM
Author: Balding abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32762444)



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Date: March 5th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: disgusting national

he's issuing a separate one for each port of entry. Takes a long time to sign all those.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32762517)



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Date: March 16th, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: glittery effete liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3536784&forum_id=2#32843084)