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Self-driving cars will NEVER share the roads with regular cars

Ljl at utopian tech fags
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
Phones will NEVER fit in your pocket and have more processin...
fuchsia stead
  02/27/17
Is this the kind of verbal reasoning that got you into Tulan...
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
Killshot
Bearded Vermilion Kitchen Associate
  02/27/17
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maize church building
  02/27/17
I went to Cornell, bro.
fuchsia stead
  02/27/17
the tulane of the north
Light Talented Orchestra Pit Trump Supporter
  02/27/17
That's Penn. It's at best the Tulane of Ithaca
Rambunctious Fantasy-prone Place Of Business
  02/27/17
...
Hairraiser Regret Pocket Flask
  02/28/17
Good enough for government work.
fuchsia stead
  02/27/17
...
underhanded cream base alpha
  02/28/17
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aggressive pink den digit ratio
  02/27/17
wrong
irradiated pontificating lodge
  02/27/17
"3d printers will NEVER share the home/office/school wi...
maize church building
  02/27/17
no one will ever need a computer in their house
Contagious forum
  02/27/17
Not to go full aspie but Technically this is already untrue
Rambunctious Fantasy-prone Place Of Business
  02/27/17
tend to agree with OP, but with reservations. I'm sure, ove...
Ebony legend cuckold
  02/27/17
It will never be safe enough to account for human error/weat...
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
You are objectively wrong. Google is already down to one pot...
irradiated pontificating lodge
  02/27/17
Flame
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/california-dmv-autonomous-car-...
irradiated pontificating lodge
  02/27/17
this is one of the stronger arguments imho on this idea of s...
Ebony legend cuckold
  02/27/17
In theory? I think the technology today is prob safer than...
Up-to-no-good White Dilemma Marketing Idea
  02/28/17
not gonna happen in a few years, but in 5 years it will prob...
Contagious forum
  02/27/17
And in 30 years it will be mandatory.
Dun Beady-eyed Personal Credit Line
  02/27/17
wasn't there a poast recently that said "why do gen xer...
Ebony legend cuckold
  02/27/17
*Dude who has never been in a car with a female Asian driver...
fuchsia stead
  02/27/17
This is dumb. Even if you assume this is an AI-hard problem ...
Gold Stirring Theatre
  02/27/17
It is a super hard AI problem. John Leonard from MIT agrees:...
olive lascivious parlour
  02/27/17
Exactly. The big money is in eliminating long-haul truck dri...
olive lascivious parlour
  02/27/17
separate roads/lanes for automated is where it'll start. the...
Galvanic violent coffee pot library
  02/28/17
"Segway scooters will NEVER share the sidewalks with st...
maize church building
  02/27/17
They already do. Jfc trumpmos are a dumb group of people.
Dun Beady-eyed Personal Credit Line
  02/27/17
let me just say that i would rather die in a fiery carcrash ...
Motley laser beams dopamine
  02/27/17
...
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
Make it happen
Cordovan cruise ship
  02/27/17
twist: you are FAR more likely to die in a fiery car crahsed...
Contagious forum
  02/27/17
what i'm saying is that the real psychological obstacle to g...
Motley laser beams dopamine
  02/27/17
i am far more afraid of other drivers than i am of computer ...
Contagious forum
  02/27/17
you probably have an IQ above 115. most people don't.
Motley laser beams dopamine
  02/27/17
...
aromatic water buffalo house
  02/27/17
...
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
Future wives will never be able to take'em THAT big.
Exciting lavender site
  02/27/17
They will and you'll like it
iridescent corner preventive strike
  02/27/17
the fuck? I can buy a Tesla tomorrow that will do this.
soggy locale old irish cottage
  02/27/17
(Dumb)
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
false. Tesla hyped up technology that every Benz and BMW has...
olive lascivious parlour
  02/27/17
Exactly
drunken gas station
  02/27/17
Retard schtick? This is 5 years away at most.
Unholy main people
  02/28/17
Perfecting the last 1% is 99.9999% of the work. How much...
olive lascivious parlour
  02/28/17
Yes, in that eventually the "regular cars" won't b...
swashbuckling saffron french chef locus
  02/28/17
Self driving cars have to communicate with each other so the...
Yellow Mediation Mad-dog Skullcap
  02/28/17
SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!
Bipolar persian
  02/28/17
Planes can take off and fly and land with zero human input. ...
bearded filthpig stain
  02/28/17
I thought rail does do this basically now
Up-to-no-good White Dilemma Marketing Idea
  02/28/17
i think it's far more likely that things will start off with...
Cyan double fault
  02/28/17
have they ever said if you're going to allowed to drive a se...
clear glittery lay
  02/28/17
Can you imagine the sort of low T "man" who pines ...
Blathering jet-lagged wagecucks indirect expression
  02/28/17


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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:11 PM
Author: drunken gas station

Ljl at utopian tech fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32712983)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:13 PM
Author: fuchsia stead

Phones will NEVER fit in your pocket and have more processing power than all the computers on earth in 1975.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32712992)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:14 PM
Author: drunken gas station

Is this the kind of verbal reasoning that got you into Tulane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713003)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:16 PM
Author: Bearded Vermilion Kitchen Associate

Killshot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713014)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: maize church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713022)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: fuchsia stead

I went to Cornell, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713026)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:19 PM
Author: Light Talented Orchestra Pit Trump Supporter

the tulane of the north

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713038)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Rambunctious Fantasy-prone Place Of Business

That's Penn. It's at best the Tulane of Ithaca

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713067)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 7:25 AM
Author: Hairraiser Regret Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717399)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: fuchsia stead

Good enough for government work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713071)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 8:59 AM
Author: underhanded cream base alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717727)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: aggressive pink den digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713100)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:13 PM
Author: irradiated pontificating lodge

wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32712996)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: maize church building

"3d printers will NEVER share the home/office/school with 2d printers"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713025)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: Contagious forum

no one will ever need a computer in their house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713046)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: Rambunctious Fantasy-prone Place Of Business

Not to go full aspie but Technically this is already untrue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713059)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: Ebony legend cuckold

tend to agree with OP, but with reservations. I'm sure, over time, people will see every piece of data indicating that they are safer, more efficient, etc. than driving yourself but they will face tremendous headwinds including unions/lobbying/TLCs/price points without EVEN touching american emotional attachments to cars/driving that data driven analysis will do nothing to allay.

maybe not "never", but WAAAAAAAAAAAY longer than nerds think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713074)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: drunken gas station

It will never be safe enough to account for human error/weather etc. I can see separate roads or lanes for automated shipping but people who act like semi trucks will be autonomously driving around on freeways in a few years are insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713097)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: irradiated pontificating lodge

You are objectively wrong. Google is already down to one potential contact every 5,000 miles, and in reality a potential contacts is not even a likely accident. Their drivers go for weeks without doing anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713114)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: drunken gas station

Flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713120)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: irradiated pontificating lodge

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/california-dmv-autonomous-car-disengagement/

Waymo Miles per disengagement: 5128

I don't think snow and rain will be nearly as hard to solve as people think it will be, but they'll probably start as a georestricted taxi service where it isn't a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713151)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: Ebony legend cuckold

this is one of the stronger arguments imho on this idea of short term adoption rates. we ain't seeing large scale adoption of 18 wheelers carrying around 75k lbs fully loaded trailers on I-95 any time soon. even if, in theory, they were "safer".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713128)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 6:16 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good White Dilemma Marketing Idea

In theory? I think the technology today is prob safer than the meth addled minds of most truck drivers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717288)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: Contagious forum

not gonna happen in a few years, but in 5 years it will probably be ready and 10 years it'll be accepted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713130)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: Dun Beady-eyed Personal Credit Line

And in 30 years it will be mandatory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713145)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: Ebony legend cuckold

wasn't there a poast recently that said "why do gen xers always tell you to listen to Rush?"---this is why, right here. also, cf, "red barchetta".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713159)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: fuchsia stead

*Dude who has never been in a car with a female Asian driver.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713131)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: Gold Stirring Theatre

This is dumb. Even if you assume this is an AI-hard problem because of low probability edge cases, there will come a point where AGIs could be deployed in self-driving cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713175)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: olive lascivious parlour

It is a super hard AI problem. John Leonard from MIT agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CZmlaMNCs (long but seriously worth watching if this topic interests you). Watch around 22:00 to see some tough shit these algos will have to handle.

Until I have a robot that I can send down to the store to buy me things while dealing with any random human cashier, we'll never have a fully autonomous self-driving car that handles every situation safely, let alone optimally. Right now AI/ML is only good at very specific tasks, in every other way it's literally dumber than a 5-year-old poor kid buying mom a pack of smokes at the corner store.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716344)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: olive lascivious parlour

Exactly. The big money is in eliminating long-haul truck driving.

Have special lanes split off every major highway for autonomous drivers and hire drivers to do the "last mile" bringing the truck from the highway exit to shipping depot/store/warehouse.

There is NFW people are going to have a computer-controlled 75000lb truck driving on the highway with them. Any politician who allows this will have his opponent running page after page of grisly accident photos after the inevitable crash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716387)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Galvanic violent coffee pot library

separate roads/lanes for automated is where it'll start. the human-operated lanes will fall into disrepair (because infrastructure investment = COMMUNISM). 50 years later: no one knows how to drive themselves any more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32718361)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: maize church building

"Segway scooters will NEVER share the sidewalks with striders"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713081)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Dun Beady-eyed Personal Credit Line

They already do. Jfc trumpmos are a dumb group of people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713108)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: Motley laser beams dopamine

let me just say that i would rather die in a fiery carcrash caused by my own incompetence than die in a fiery carcrash caused by my statistically safer selfdriving car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713136)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: drunken gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713148)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Cordovan cruise ship

Make it happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713185)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Contagious forum

twist: you are FAR more likely to die in a fiery car crahsed caused by ANOTHER person's incompetence. so the self driving car is actually much safer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713186)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: Motley laser beams dopamine

what i'm saying is that the real psychological obstacle to getting average people on board with self driving cars is that people really love the illusion of control. statistics just don't tug at the gut the same way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713225)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: Contagious forum

i am far more afraid of other drivers than i am of computer error

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713229)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: Motley laser beams dopamine

you probably have an IQ above 115. most people don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713283)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: aromatic water buffalo house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716361)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: drunken gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713271)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Exciting lavender site

Future wives will never be able to take'em THAT big.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713188)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: iridescent corner preventive strike

They will and you'll like it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713278)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: soggy locale old irish cottage

the fuck? I can buy a Tesla tomorrow that will do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716189)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: drunken gas station

(Dumb)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716249)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: olive lascivious parlour

false. Tesla hyped up technology that every Benz and BMW has had for years. it's just a more advanced cruise control and lane keeping system.

Tesla will never drive on unmarked roads or in city traffic with pedestrians.

being able to handle all the edge cases requires a generalized human-like intelligence that is a long way away. the car would need to understand police gestures and facial expressions from other drivers, read and interpret signs, etc. etc. they'll always need a human operator to handle those cases. even planes/trains need that, and air/rail traffic is much more regulated and controlled.

in your lifetime you won't be able to get drunk and hop into a fully autonomous self-driving car that drives you around NYC streets shared with non-self-driving cars and pedestrians. I'd bet you a serious amount of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716254)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:18 PM
Author: drunken gas station

Exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716263)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 12:58 AM
Author: Unholy main people

Retard schtick? This is 5 years away at most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716800)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 9:24 AM
Author: olive lascivious parlour

Perfecting the last 1% is 99.9999% of the work.

How much would you bet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717852)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: swashbuckling saffron french chef locus

Yes, in that eventually the "regular cars" won't be allowed on the main lanes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716748)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: Yellow Mediation Mad-dog Skullcap

Self driving cars have to communicate with each other so the biggest problem is going to be hacking. Imagine the prize if terrorists could get 20 million cars to crash into each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716808)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 9:02 AM
Author: Bipolar persian

SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717744)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 1:21 AM
Author: bearded filthpig stain

Planes can take off and fly and land with zero human input.

Trains should be able to do that but LOL at anything in rail in the Us being advanced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716884)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 6:16 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good White Dilemma Marketing Idea

I thought rail does do this basically now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717289)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 6:40 AM
Author: Cyan double fault

i think it's far more likely that things will start off with only the highways being the place where the self-driving cars operate, and then it switches back to a regular car in more dense areas where people live

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717301)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 9:33 AM
Author: clear glittery lay

have they ever said if you're going to allowed to drive a self driving car while drunk? if you can't then it's just a way for GC to make you do work during your commute and eliminate even more jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717904)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: Blathering jet-lagged wagecucks indirect expression

Can you imagine the sort of low T "man" who pines after a self driving car?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32718139)