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Self-driving cars will NEVER share the roads with regular cars

Ljl at utopian tech fags
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
Phones will NEVER fit in your pocket and have more processin...
plum razzmatazz persian stage
  02/27/17
Is this the kind of verbal reasoning that got you into Tulan...
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
Killshot
racy gaping lettuce
  02/27/17
...
Multi-colored national
  02/27/17
I went to Cornell, bro.
plum razzmatazz persian stage
  02/27/17
the tulane of the north
Charismatic space party of the first part
  02/27/17
That's Penn. It's at best the Tulane of Ithaca
Stimulating Abode
  02/27/17
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offensive ceo
  02/28/17
Good enough for government work.
plum razzmatazz persian stage
  02/27/17
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  02/28/17
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hyperactive tripping church building
  02/27/17
wrong
thirsty newt preventive strike
  02/27/17
"3d printers will NEVER share the home/office/school wi...
Multi-colored national
  02/27/17
no one will ever need a computer in their house
lavender legend university
  02/27/17
Not to go full aspie but Technically this is already untrue
Stimulating Abode
  02/27/17
tend to agree with OP, but with reservations. I'm sure, ove...
passionate sound barrier
  02/27/17
It will never be safe enough to account for human error/weat...
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
You are objectively wrong. Google is already down to one pot...
thirsty newt preventive strike
  02/27/17
Flame
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/california-dmv-autonomous-car-...
thirsty newt preventive strike
  02/27/17
this is one of the stronger arguments imho on this idea of s...
passionate sound barrier
  02/27/17
In theory? I think the technology today is prob safer than...
cracking nursing home corn cake
  02/28/17
not gonna happen in a few years, but in 5 years it will prob...
lavender legend university
  02/27/17
And in 30 years it will be mandatory.
Stirring kink-friendly fat ankles
  02/27/17
wasn't there a poast recently that said "why do gen xer...
passionate sound barrier
  02/27/17
*Dude who has never been in a car with a female Asian driver...
plum razzmatazz persian stage
  02/27/17
This is dumb. Even if you assume this is an AI-hard problem ...
marvelous old irish cottage voyeur
  02/27/17
It is a super hard AI problem. John Leonard from MIT agrees:...
splenetic stag film
  02/27/17
Exactly. The big money is in eliminating long-haul truck dri...
splenetic stag film
  02/27/17
separate roads/lanes for automated is where it'll start. the...
Vibrant Filthy Parlour
  02/28/17
"Segway scooters will NEVER share the sidewalks with st...
Multi-colored national
  02/27/17
They already do. Jfc trumpmos are a dumb group of people.
Stirring kink-friendly fat ankles
  02/27/17
let me just say that i would rather die in a fiery carcrash ...
wine mad cow disease step-uncle's house
  02/27/17
...
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
Make it happen
Impertinent Hunting Ground Orchestra Pit
  02/27/17
twist: you are FAR more likely to die in a fiery car crahsed...
lavender legend university
  02/27/17
what i'm saying is that the real psychological obstacle to g...
wine mad cow disease step-uncle's house
  02/27/17
i am far more afraid of other drivers than i am of computer ...
lavender legend university
  02/27/17
you probably have an IQ above 115. most people don't.
wine mad cow disease step-uncle's house
  02/27/17
...
Sooty casino macaca
  02/27/17
...
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
Future wives will never be able to take'em THAT big.
brindle insecure milk
  02/27/17
They will and you'll like it
tantric idiot
  02/27/17
the fuck? I can buy a Tesla tomorrow that will do this.
autistic harsh goal in life
  02/27/17
(Dumb)
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
false. Tesla hyped up technology that every Benz and BMW has...
splenetic stag film
  02/27/17
Exactly
Aromatic tanning salon halford
  02/27/17
Retard schtick? This is 5 years away at most.
Charcoal beady-eyed water buffalo international law enforcement agency
  02/28/17
Perfecting the last 1% is 99.9999% of the work. How much...
splenetic stag film
  02/28/17
Yes, in that eventually the "regular cars" won't b...
Bateful state hairy legs
  02/28/17
Self driving cars have to communicate with each other so the...
judgmental amber field fortuitous meteor
  02/28/17
SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!
Indigo Cocky Potus
  02/28/17
Planes can take off and fly and land with zero human input. ...
soggy school
  02/28/17
I thought rail does do this basically now
cracking nursing home corn cake
  02/28/17
i think it's far more likely that things will start off with...
Avocado French Athletic Conference Internal Respiration
  02/28/17
have they ever said if you're going to allowed to drive a se...
Bespoke diverse windowlicker masturbator
  02/28/17
Can you imagine the sort of low T "man" who pines ...
cowardly fiercely-loyal dopamine spot
  02/28/17


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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:11 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford

Ljl at utopian tech fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32712983)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:13 PM
Author: plum razzmatazz persian stage

Phones will NEVER fit in your pocket and have more processing power than all the computers on earth in 1975.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32712992)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:14 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford

Is this the kind of verbal reasoning that got you into Tulane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713003)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:16 PM
Author: racy gaping lettuce

Killshot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713014)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: Multi-colored national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713022)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: plum razzmatazz persian stage

I went to Cornell, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713026)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:19 PM
Author: Charismatic space party of the first part

the tulane of the north

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713038)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Stimulating Abode

That's Penn. It's at best the Tulane of Ithaca

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713067)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 7:25 AM
Author: offensive ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717399)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: plum razzmatazz persian stage

Good enough for government work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713071)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 8:59 AM
Author: ocher really tough guy public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717727)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: hyperactive tripping church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713100)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:13 PM
Author: thirsty newt preventive strike

wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32712996)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: Multi-colored national

"3d printers will NEVER share the home/office/school with 2d printers"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713025)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: lavender legend university

no one will ever need a computer in their house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713046)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: Stimulating Abode

Not to go full aspie but Technically this is already untrue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713059)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: passionate sound barrier

tend to agree with OP, but with reservations. I'm sure, over time, people will see every piece of data indicating that they are safer, more efficient, etc. than driving yourself but they will face tremendous headwinds including unions/lobbying/TLCs/price points without EVEN touching american emotional attachments to cars/driving that data driven analysis will do nothing to allay.

maybe not "never", but WAAAAAAAAAAAY longer than nerds think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713074)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford

It will never be safe enough to account for human error/weather etc. I can see separate roads or lanes for automated shipping but people who act like semi trucks will be autonomously driving around on freeways in a few years are insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713097)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: thirsty newt preventive strike

You are objectively wrong. Google is already down to one potential contact every 5,000 miles, and in reality a potential contacts is not even a likely accident. Their drivers go for weeks without doing anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713114)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford

Flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713120)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: thirsty newt preventive strike

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/california-dmv-autonomous-car-disengagement/

Waymo Miles per disengagement: 5128

I don't think snow and rain will be nearly as hard to solve as people think it will be, but they'll probably start as a georestricted taxi service where it isn't a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713151)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: passionate sound barrier

this is one of the stronger arguments imho on this idea of short term adoption rates. we ain't seeing large scale adoption of 18 wheelers carrying around 75k lbs fully loaded trailers on I-95 any time soon. even if, in theory, they were "safer".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713128)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 6:16 AM
Author: cracking nursing home corn cake

In theory? I think the technology today is prob safer than the meth addled minds of most truck drivers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717288)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: lavender legend university

not gonna happen in a few years, but in 5 years it will probably be ready and 10 years it'll be accepted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713130)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: Stirring kink-friendly fat ankles

And in 30 years it will be mandatory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713145)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: passionate sound barrier

wasn't there a poast recently that said "why do gen xers always tell you to listen to Rush?"---this is why, right here. also, cf, "red barchetta".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713159)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: plum razzmatazz persian stage

*Dude who has never been in a car with a female Asian driver.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713131)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: marvelous old irish cottage voyeur

This is dumb. Even if you assume this is an AI-hard problem because of low probability edge cases, there will come a point where AGIs could be deployed in self-driving cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713175)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: splenetic stag film

It is a super hard AI problem. John Leonard from MIT agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CZmlaMNCs (long but seriously worth watching if this topic interests you). Watch around 22:00 to see some tough shit these algos will have to handle.

Until I have a robot that I can send down to the store to buy me things while dealing with any random human cashier, we'll never have a fully autonomous self-driving car that handles every situation safely, let alone optimally. Right now AI/ML is only good at very specific tasks, in every other way it's literally dumber than a 5-year-old poor kid buying mom a pack of smokes at the corner store.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716344)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: splenetic stag film

Exactly. The big money is in eliminating long-haul truck driving.

Have special lanes split off every major highway for autonomous drivers and hire drivers to do the "last mile" bringing the truck from the highway exit to shipping depot/store/warehouse.

There is NFW people are going to have a computer-controlled 75000lb truck driving on the highway with them. Any politician who allows this will have his opponent running page after page of grisly accident photos after the inevitable crash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716387)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 10:39 AM
Author: Vibrant Filthy Parlour

separate roads/lanes for automated is where it'll start. the human-operated lanes will fall into disrepair (because infrastructure investment = COMMUNISM). 50 years later: no one knows how to drive themselves any more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32718361)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: Multi-colored national

"Segway scooters will NEVER share the sidewalks with striders"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713081)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Stirring kink-friendly fat ankles

They already do. Jfc trumpmos are a dumb group of people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713108)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: wine mad cow disease step-uncle's house

let me just say that i would rather die in a fiery carcrash caused by my own incompetence than die in a fiery carcrash caused by my statistically safer selfdriving car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713136)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713148)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Impertinent Hunting Ground Orchestra Pit

Make it happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713185)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: lavender legend university

twist: you are FAR more likely to die in a fiery car crahsed caused by ANOTHER person's incompetence. so the self driving car is actually much safer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713186)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: wine mad cow disease step-uncle's house

what i'm saying is that the real psychological obstacle to getting average people on board with self driving cars is that people really love the illusion of control. statistics just don't tug at the gut the same way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713225)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: lavender legend university

i am far more afraid of other drivers than i am of computer error

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713229)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: wine mad cow disease step-uncle's house

you probably have an IQ above 115. most people don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713283)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: Sooty casino macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716361)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713271)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: brindle insecure milk

Future wives will never be able to take'em THAT big.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713188)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: tantric idiot

They will and you'll like it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32713278)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: autistic harsh goal in life

the fuck? I can buy a Tesla tomorrow that will do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716189)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford

(Dumb)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716249)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: splenetic stag film

false. Tesla hyped up technology that every Benz and BMW has had for years. it's just a more advanced cruise control and lane keeping system.

Tesla will never drive on unmarked roads or in city traffic with pedestrians.

being able to handle all the edge cases requires a generalized human-like intelligence that is a long way away. the car would need to understand police gestures and facial expressions from other drivers, read and interpret signs, etc. etc. they'll always need a human operator to handle those cases. even planes/trains need that, and air/rail traffic is much more regulated and controlled.

in your lifetime you won't be able to get drunk and hop into a fully autonomous self-driving car that drives you around NYC streets shared with non-self-driving cars and pedestrians. I'd bet you a serious amount of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716254)



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Date: February 27th, 2017 11:18 PM
Author: Aromatic tanning salon halford

Exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716263)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 12:58 AM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed water buffalo international law enforcement agency

Retard schtick? This is 5 years away at most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716800)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 9:24 AM
Author: splenetic stag film

Perfecting the last 1% is 99.9999% of the work.

How much would you bet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717852)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Bateful state hairy legs

Yes, in that eventually the "regular cars" won't be allowed on the main lanes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716748)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: judgmental amber field fortuitous meteor

Self driving cars have to communicate with each other so the biggest problem is going to be hacking. Imagine the prize if terrorists could get 20 million cars to crash into each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716808)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 9:02 AM
Author: Indigo Cocky Potus

SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717744)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 1:21 AM
Author: soggy school

Planes can take off and fly and land with zero human input.

Trains should be able to do that but LOL at anything in rail in the Us being advanced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32716884)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 6:16 AM
Author: cracking nursing home corn cake

I thought rail does do this basically now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717289)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 6:40 AM
Author: Avocado French Athletic Conference Internal Respiration

i think it's far more likely that things will start off with only the highways being the place where the self-driving cars operate, and then it switches back to a regular car in more dense areas where people live

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717301)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 9:33 AM
Author: Bespoke diverse windowlicker masturbator

have they ever said if you're going to allowed to drive a self driving car while drunk? if you can't then it's just a way for GC to make you do work during your commute and eliminate even more jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32717904)



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Date: February 28th, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: cowardly fiercely-loyal dopamine spot

Can you imagine the sort of low T "man" who pines after a self driving car?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3538114&forum_id=2#32718139)