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When I look back at Of Counsel still at my old Biglaw firm, I shudder...
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM Author: cracking roommate headpube The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of being an Of Counsel at some big firm in a non-specialty area for that entire time I've been gone seems so terrible, I almost shed a tear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729577) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:56 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or skillsets? That's why firms keep them around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729627) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM Author: cracking roommate headpube at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in business and senior associates and of counsel manage it....definitely some of counsel are specialist, but lots aren't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729634) |
Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights and weekends, billing 1600/year
you - poast on xo |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:52 PM Author: cracking roommate headpube more like $350k for 2500 hours a year
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:55 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500
and sr assoc make liek 300 base, ofc will make more + bonus |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM Author: cracking roommate headpube not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior associates often made more, especially with bonus.
And the non-specialist of counsel billed a ton of hours. |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729683) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:12 PM Author: cracking roommate headpube It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. Allowed the partners to avoid as much grunt work as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729737) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm" if they were billing 2500, making less than sr assoc, and had no partnership chances. play flame better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729750) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:17 PM Author: diverse meetinghouse indirect expression poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of counsel would bill 2000-2400 hours and pay $350k - $500k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729763) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM Author: glassy slimy range This is my experience as well although I think the bill closer to 2000 and make closer to 500k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729783) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:24 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king so basiclaly close to what i said (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729806) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:30 PM Author: glassy slimy range No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 billables (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729854) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:47 PM Author: diverse meetinghouse indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729953) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM Author: cracking roommate headpube These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely no business of their own....many don't have any other option that pays as much other than being the same thing at another law firm.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729784) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:58 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back though. They have zero respect from anyone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729639) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729685) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitchmade "man" broken in pieces by GC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729751) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:15 PM Author: At-the-ready dilemma philosopher-king u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729753) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:19 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a partner. At least you're getting a piece of the pie. But if you stay at the firm after they told you "lolno" you're a fucking loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729775) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:38 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758090) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:05 PM Author: harsh vibrant telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729689) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:44 PM Author: Dark gay wizard den At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of advancement. I'm sure the money is okay but it's otherwise the worst of all worlds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729935) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:57 PM Author: very tactful poppy boistinker locus What's an "of counsel"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758158) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy citrine native Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of breakfast.
Usually in BIGLAW it's up or out so if you get no-breakfasted you're expected to leave. Sometimes though they want to keep you as their bitch so they make you "of counsel". |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service partner or a senior of counsel who's been at the firm for 30 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758251) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM Author: soggy trailer park yarmulke define respect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758259) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:22 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a CC line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758282) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:23 PM Author: soggy trailer park yarmulke who cares about this shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758287) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:30 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert in his field and he has to sit in earls office to get briefed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758326) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM Author: Bipolar Business Firm At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 hours and make 200k. Seems like a sweet gig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758257) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:19 PM Author: soggy trailer park yarmulke ? prestige is everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758262) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:18 PM Author: heady tan bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34877515) |