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When I look back at Of Counsel still at my old Biglaw firm, I shudder...

The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of be...
Floppy primrose mood
  03/01/17
Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  03/01/17
at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in busines...
Floppy primrose mood
  03/01/17
him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights an...
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
more like $350k for 2500 hours a year
Floppy primrose mood
  03/01/17
no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500 and sr assoc...
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior ...
Floppy primrose mood
  03/01/17
sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. ...
Floppy primrose mood
  03/01/17
of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm"...
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of...
hairraiser legal warrant lay
  03/01/17
This is my experience as well although I think the bill clos...
judgmental community account theatre
  03/01/17
so basiclaly close to what i said
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 bil...
judgmental community account theatre
  03/01/17
...
hairraiser legal warrant lay
  03/01/17
These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely ...
Floppy primrose mood
  03/01/17
Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back thou...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  03/01/17
they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitch...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  03/01/17
u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones
galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse
  03/01/17
Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a part...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  03/01/17
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Talking Dashing Business Firm
  11/23/17
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Exciting famous landscape painting
  03/01/17
At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of adv...
abnormal casino pocket flask
  03/01/17
What's an "of counsel"?
Bright 180 brunch
  11/23/17
Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of brea...
nubile deer antler university
  11/23/17
Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service p...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  11/23/17
define respect
ultramarine wrinkle
  11/23/17
Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  11/23/17
who cares about this shit
ultramarine wrinkle
  11/23/17
It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  11/23/17
At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 ...
Glittery Pervert Plaza
  11/23/17
? prestige is everything
ultramarine wrinkle
  11/23/17
...
Talking Dashing Business Firm
  12/09/17


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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: Floppy primrose mood

The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of being an Of Counsel at some big firm in a non-specialty area for that entire time I've been gone seems so terrible, I almost shed a tear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729577)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:56 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or skillsets? That's why firms keep them around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729627)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: Floppy primrose mood

at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in business and senior associates and of counsel manage it....definitely some of counsel are specialist, but lots aren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729634)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights and weekends, billing 1600/year

you - poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729580)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: Floppy primrose mood

more like $350k for 2500 hours a year



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729600)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500

and sr assoc make liek 300 base, ofc will make more + bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729617)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: Floppy primrose mood

not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior associates often made more, especially with bonus.

And the non-specialist of counsel billed a ton of hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729637)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729683)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:12 PM
Author: Floppy primrose mood

It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. Allowed the partners to avoid as much grunt work as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729737)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm" if they were billing 2500, making less than sr assoc, and had no partnership chances. play flame better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729750)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:17 PM
Author: hairraiser legal warrant lay

poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of counsel would bill 2000-2400 hours and pay $350k - $500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729763)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: judgmental community account theatre

This is my experience as well although I think the bill closer to 2000 and make closer to 500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729783)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:24 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

so basiclaly close to what i said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729806)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:30 PM
Author: judgmental community account theatre

No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 billables

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729854)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: hairraiser legal warrant lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729953)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: Floppy primrose mood

These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely no business of their own....many don't have any other option that pays as much other than being the same thing at another law firm....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729784)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:58 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back though. They have zero respect from anyone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729639)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729685)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitchmade "man" broken in pieces by GC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729751)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: galvanic insanely creepy meetinghouse

u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729753)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:19 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a partner. At least you're getting a piece of the pie. But if you stay at the firm after they told you "lolno" you're a fucking loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729775)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758090)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:05 PM
Author: Exciting famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729689)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:44 PM
Author: abnormal casino pocket flask

At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of advancement. I'm sure the money is okay but it's otherwise the worst of all worlds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729935)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:57 PM
Author: Bright 180 brunch

What's an "of counsel"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758158)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 PM
Author: nubile deer antler university

Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of breakfast.

Usually in BIGLAW it's up or out so if you get no-breakfasted you're expected to leave. Sometimes though they want to keep you as their bitch so they make you "of counsel".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758239)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service partner or a senior of counsel who's been at the firm for 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758251)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM
Author: ultramarine wrinkle

define respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758259)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:22 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a CC line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758282)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: ultramarine wrinkle

who cares about this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758287)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm

It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert in his field and he has to sit in earls office to get briefed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758326)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM
Author: Glittery Pervert Plaza

At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 hours and make 200k. Seems like a sweet gig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758257)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:19 PM
Author: ultramarine wrinkle

? prestige is everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758262)



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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: Talking Dashing Business Firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34877515)