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Amazon outage was due to an engineer entering a typo on the command line
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:05 PM Author: Aromatic ruby locus old irish cottage At 9:37AM PST, an authorized S3 team member using an established playbook executed a command which was intended to remove a small number of servers for one of the S3 subsystems that is used by the S3 billing process. Unfortunately, one of the inputs to the command was entered incorrectly and a larger set of servers was removed than intended. The servers that were inadvertently removed supported two other S3 subsystems.
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:06 PM Author: cerise swashbuckling jew automation can't come soon enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746474) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:10 PM Author: Aromatic ruby locus old irish cottage Somewhere down the line there still has to be a dude running commands like that though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746487) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:11 PM Author: jade trust fund area Ah crapnuts, I just activated the robots in "experimental sentience" mode. *cracks open beer and rolls back over in bed* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746493) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:13 PM Author: amber hunting ground kitty there are automation systems like Chef, Puppet, Ansible that can be programmed to perform corrective actions on infrastructure based on certain triggers and conditions. though ultimately there needs to be some human element at the end of the line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746500) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:39 PM Author: jade trust fund area It just means you can use one sysadmin for huge clusters instead of small ones ultimately. Given the cloudsplosion it's basically a net neutral in how many of these dudes are necessary.
They do need increasingly specialized skillets though. 15 years ago a doofus who knew how to load a Linux CD could get a 50k sysadmin job in low col area. |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:49 PM Author: amber hunting ground kitty at least in primary markets, I don't think sysadmins really exist anymore. there are engineers who code applications and there are engineers who code infrastructure, and the latter will be able to (and be expected to) do anything a sysadmin could. either that or a highly specialized role that requires deep understanding of Linux internals, C, strace, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746704) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:55 PM Author: jade trust fund area There are definitely still sysadmins but they need to know how to do a lot more stuff and have generally been rebadged as "DevOps/Systems Engineers/etc.". They need to know how to code and identify bugs but don't usually work on infrastructure products directly, and they have generally branched off into more specialized roles at bigcorp (e.g. guys who do only networking, etc). There are still generalists left at smaller places like academic or in-house computing clusters as well though
It's not like you have guys who develop AWS services also doing the work to install and keep everything running. That would be pretty inefficient and chaotic |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:00 PM Author: amber hunting ground kitty right, the DevOps thing is what I meant, or "infrastructure as code". that usually means high-level languages scripting the deployment of cloud formations, with some kind of CMS monitoring the config states and automating changes. every now and then you may need to fire off a manual command, which is what the traditional sysadmin used to do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746758) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:08 PM Author: cruel-hearted lime pocket flask (Not Skynet) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746796) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:07 PM Author: orchid stimulating famous landscape painting rm -rf / (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746475) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:10 PM Author: jade trust fund area sounds like the plot of a Futurama episode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746489) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:24 PM Author: comical laser beams codepig *urkel voice*
Did I do thaaaat? |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:26 PM Author: Fluffy balding turdskin COMMA CHECKER JD's w biglaw exp will always be hot commodities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746565) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:47 PM Author: hideous philosopher-king Compliance Counsel of Typography (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746687) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 11:41 PM Author: Aromatic ruby locus old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32748578) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:49 PM Author: Naked office associate this sounds like a cover-story for getting hacked. it's like back in the 80's when poorly-placed unix commands would be blamed for causing shit that was actually being done via network infiltration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746702) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 6:50 PM Author: amber hunting ground kitty yup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746707) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:10 PM Author: exciting iridescent filthpig regret likely the russians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746805) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 11:50 PM Author: Jet shitlib Yeah, probably payback for WaPo trashing their boy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32748604) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:09 PM Author: Beady-eyed heaven Command line is inefficient and terrible. Why don't they just do GUI bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746801) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:16 PM Author: amber hunting ground kitty command line is far more efficient than a GUI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746856) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:16 PM Author: Naked office associate GUI usually means you need mouse support/drivers, and that starts getting into more than just a bare-bones interface and into operating systems. command line can run off of a bare motherboard with no complex OS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746860) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:17 PM Author: Aromatic ruby locus old irish cottage I think the fact that some devops dude took down the internet on one command shows that it actually is pretty efficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746870) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:17 PM Author: exciting iridescent filthpig regret (knows shit about programming) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746873) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:19 PM Author: massive state (not a command line MFE) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746888) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2017 7:19 PM Author: Aromatic ruby locus old irish cottage I guess the follow-up here is whether this engineer still has a job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3542528&forum_id=2#32746882) |