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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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navy spectacular forum
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
diverse coral crackhouse sandwich
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
snowy gaping
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
navy spectacular forum
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
diverse coral crackhouse sandwich
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
snowy gaping
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
snowy gaping
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
Big saffron immigrant
  03/18/17
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navy spectacular forum
  03/18/17
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navy spectacular forum
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Supple Hilarious Masturbator
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Disrespectful Depressive
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
aromatic clear institution
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Disrespectful Depressive
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
odious lay antidepressant drug
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage
  03/18/17
what's that?
dun indian lodge death wish
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
territorial goal in life
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  03/19/17
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Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
ruddy karate degenerate
  04/27/17
explain
Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
ruddy karate degenerate
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Walnut razzle-dazzle pozpig market
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Appetizing Station Indirect Expression
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Cream contagious spot
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
high-end old irish cottage state
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: navy spectacular forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: diverse coral crackhouse sandwich

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: snowy gaping

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: navy spectacular forum

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: diverse coral crackhouse sandwich

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: snowy gaping

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: snowy gaping

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Big saffron immigrant

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: navy spectacular forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: navy spectacular forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Supple Hilarious Masturbator

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Disrespectful Depressive

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: aromatic clear institution

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Disrespectful Depressive

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: odious lay antidepressant drug

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: dun indian lodge death wish

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: territorial goal in life

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Exhilarant vengeful cruise ship water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Aqua buck-toothed nursing home

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: ruddy karate degenerate

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: ruddy karate degenerate

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Walnut razzle-dazzle pozpig market

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Appetizing Station Indirect Expression

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Cream contagious spot

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: high-end old irish cottage state

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Soul-stirring ivory house roommate

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Soul-stirring ivory house roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Multi-colored Sienna Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)