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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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supple seedy point
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Aphrodisiac Crawly French Chef
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Territorial chad temple
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
supple seedy point
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Aphrodisiac Crawly French Chef
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Territorial chad temple
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
transparent insanely creepy goal in life address
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Territorial chad temple
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
Umber beady-eyed sanctuary liquid oxygen
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supple seedy point
  03/18/17
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supple seedy point
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Gay mad-dog skullcap site
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Cerebral ungodly stock car
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Zippy multi-colored yarmulke
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Cerebral ungodly stock car
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Useless station roast beef
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
transparent insanely creepy goal in life address
  03/18/17
what's that?
Magenta very tactful church building becky
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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transparent insanely creepy goal in life address
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Curious codepig center
  04/27/17
explain
transparent insanely creepy goal in life address
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Curious codepig center
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
passionate insane parlor
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
greedy field degenerate
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Glittery bearded national security agency den
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
transparent insanely creepy goal in life address
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Costumed Party Of The First Part
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: supple seedy point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Crawly French Chef

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Territorial chad temple

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: supple seedy point

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Crawly French Chef

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Territorial chad temple

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Territorial chad temple

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Umber beady-eyed sanctuary liquid oxygen

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: supple seedy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: supple seedy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Gay mad-dog skullcap site

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Cerebral ungodly stock car

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Zippy multi-colored yarmulke

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Cerebral ungodly stock car

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Useless station roast beef

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Magenta very tactful church building becky

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Galvanic ivory patrolman lay

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: big whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Autistic cruise ship weed whacker

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Curious codepig center

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Curious codepig center

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: passionate insane parlor

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: greedy field degenerate

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Glittery bearded national security agency den

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Costumed Party Of The First Part

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Drunken flushed hunting ground

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Drunken flushed hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: transparent insanely creepy goal in life address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)