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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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filthy spot therapy
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Fishy parlour
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
lilac lodge
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
filthy spot therapy
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Fishy parlour
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
lilac lodge
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
deep arrogant indirect expression
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
lilac lodge
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
arousing jap incel
  03/18/17
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filthy spot therapy
  03/18/17
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filthy spot therapy
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Cowardly hell
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Zombie-like curious gaping
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
pungent henna karate
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Zombie-like curious gaping
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Fuchsia thriller pit preventive strike
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
deep arrogant indirect expression
  03/18/17
what's that?
Lascivious Awkward Round Eye Ticket Booth
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
obsidian fragrant resort boistinker
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deep arrogant indirect expression
  03/19/17
tmf
Emerald deer antler
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  03/22/17
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deep arrogant indirect expression
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
up-to-no-good shivering prole den
  04/27/17
explain
deep arrogant indirect expression
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
up-to-no-good shivering prole den
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
buff hospital
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
green whorehouse circlehead
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Cordovan trailer park degenerate
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
deep arrogant indirect expression
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Bespoke menage cuckold
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: filthy spot therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Fishy parlour

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: lilac lodge

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: filthy spot therapy

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Fishy parlour

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: lilac lodge

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: lilac lodge

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: arousing jap incel

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: filthy spot therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: filthy spot therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Cowardly hell

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Zombie-like curious gaping

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: pungent henna karate

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Zombie-like curious gaping

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Fuchsia thriller pit preventive strike

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Lascivious Awkward Round Eye Ticket Booth

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: obsidian fragrant resort boistinker

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Appetizing puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Emerald deer antler

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: up-to-no-good shivering prole den

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: up-to-no-good shivering prole den

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: buff hospital

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: green whorehouse circlehead

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Cordovan trailer park degenerate

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Bespoke menage cuckold

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: transparent laughsome hunting ground

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: transparent laughsome hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: deep arrogant indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)