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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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bat shit crazy green coldplay fan
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Slate tanning salon
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Grizzly Rigpig Pocket Flask
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
bat shit crazy green coldplay fan
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Slate tanning salon
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Grizzly Rigpig Pocket Flask
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Grizzly Rigpig Pocket Flask
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
infuriating hall
  03/18/17
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  03/18/17
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bat shit crazy green coldplay fan
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
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  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Zippy Heady Hell
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Aromatic Spot Coffee Pot
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Zippy Heady Hell
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Lascivious Dark Patrolman Den
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
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  03/18/17
what's that?
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  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Copper mewling heaven macaca
  04/27/17
explain
plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Copper mewling heaven macaca
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Free-loading Roast Beef Hominid
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
effete crawly wagecucks international law enforcement agency
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
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  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
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  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
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(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: bat shit crazy green coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Slate tanning salon

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Grizzly Rigpig Pocket Flask

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: bat shit crazy green coldplay fan

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Slate tanning salon

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Grizzly Rigpig Pocket Flask

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Grizzly Rigpig Pocket Flask

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: infuriating hall

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: bat shit crazy green coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: bat shit crazy green coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: wine multi-colored circlehead theater stage

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Zippy Heady Hell

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Aromatic Spot Coffee Pot

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Zippy Heady Hell

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Lascivious Dark Patrolman Den

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: salmon striped hyena rehab

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: lime painfully honest antidepressant drug

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Fragrant kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: useless nursing home famous landscape painting

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Copper mewling heaven macaca

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Copper mewling heaven macaca

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Free-loading Roast Beef Hominid

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: effete crawly wagecucks international law enforcement agency

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: irradiated base candlestick maker

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Crusty shimmering stag film alpha

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: coiffed stead

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: coiffed stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: plum charismatic sweet tailpipe marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)