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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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floppy light cruise ship
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Brindle Geriatric Resort Selfie
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Maize titillating kitty
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
floppy light cruise ship
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Brindle Geriatric Resort Selfie
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Maize titillating kitty
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
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  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
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  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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floppy light cruise ship
  03/18/17
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floppy light cruise ship
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Tripping Cruel-hearted Home
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
charismatic striped hyena
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Stirring jade philosopher-king
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
charismatic striped hyena
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
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  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
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  03/18/17
what's that?
Doobsian space
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
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  04/27/17
explain
Overrated boyish headpube pozpig
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Violent aqua brunch foreskin
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
swashbuckling magenta cuck patrolman
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
startling offensive lodge
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Copper Exciting Filthpig
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
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  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Spectacular Translucent Preventive Strike
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: floppy light cruise ship



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Brindle Geriatric Resort Selfie

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Maize titillating kitty

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: floppy light cruise ship

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Brindle Geriatric Resort Selfie

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Maize titillating kitty

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Maize titillating kitty

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: ocher lay

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: floppy light cruise ship



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: floppy light cruise ship



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Tripping Cruel-hearted Home

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: charismatic striped hyena

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Stirring jade philosopher-king

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: charismatic striped hyena

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Puce marketing idea stag film

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Doobsian space

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Pea-brained Toaster Windowlicker

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Cyan theatre degenerate



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: pungent thriller university

tmf

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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Violent aqua brunch foreskin

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Violent aqua brunch foreskin

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: swashbuckling magenta cuck patrolman

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: startling offensive lodge

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Copper Exciting Filthpig

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Spectacular Translucent Preventive Strike

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Sienna Point

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Sienna Point



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Overrated boyish headpube pozpig



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