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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Henna stubborn nibblets theater
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
trip federal marketing idea
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Tripping aromatic property halford
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Henna stubborn nibblets theater
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
trip federal marketing idea
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Tripping aromatic property halford
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Tripping aromatic property halford
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
Spectacular know-it-all stock car pit
  03/18/17
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Henna stubborn nibblets theater
  03/18/17
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Henna stubborn nibblets theater
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Dark base
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Brilliant clown useless brakes
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
adventurous onyx home
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Brilliant clown useless brakes
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
up-to-no-good floppy senate mad-dog skullcap
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead
  03/18/17
what's that?
claret histrionic associate prole
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Heady ticket booth
  04/27/17
explain
Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Heady ticket booth
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
talented lemon school cafeteria factory reset button
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
laughsome abode
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Honey-headed national
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Medicated Double Fault
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Henna stubborn nibblets theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: trip federal marketing idea

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Tripping aromatic property halford

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Henna stubborn nibblets theater

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: trip federal marketing idea

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Tripping aromatic property halford

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Tripping aromatic property halford

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Spectacular know-it-all stock car pit

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Henna stubborn nibblets theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Henna stubborn nibblets theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Dark base

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Brilliant clown useless brakes

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: adventurous onyx home

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Brilliant clown useless brakes

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: up-to-no-good floppy senate mad-dog skullcap

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: claret histrionic associate prole

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Brindle indian lodge goyim

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: marvelous high-end hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: twinkling passionate skinny woman

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Heady ticket booth

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Heady ticket booth

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: talented lemon school cafeteria factory reset button

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: laughsome abode

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Honey-headed national

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Medicated Double Fault

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: green piazza

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: green piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Hairless Mental Disorder Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)