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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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sick very tactful fat ankles
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Hairraiser Claret Principal's Office Nibblets
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
stirring ruby messiness
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
sick very tactful fat ankles
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Hairraiser Claret Principal's Office Nibblets
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
stirring ruby messiness
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
stirring ruby messiness
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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sick very tactful fat ankles
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
lemon stag film
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Sable half-breed mother
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Azure deranged spot goal in life
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Sable half-breed mother
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Canary Marvelous Pervert Mental Disorder
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night
  03/18/17
what's that?
pale gas station
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Mewling internal respiration
  04/27/17
explain
Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Mewling internal respiration
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
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  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Irradiated indian lodge sandwich
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
bipolar hell pistol
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
peach exhilarant church building
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: sick very tactful fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Hairraiser Claret Principal's Office Nibblets

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: stirring ruby messiness

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: sick very tactful fat ankles

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser Claret Principal's Office Nibblets

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: stirring ruby messiness

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: stirring ruby messiness

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Henna Dead Background Story Meetinghouse

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: sick very tactful fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: sick very tactful fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: lemon stag film

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Sable half-breed mother

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Azure deranged spot goal in life

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Sable half-breed mother

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Canary Marvelous Pervert Mental Disorder

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: pale gas station

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: aromatic bright sanctuary jap

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: outnumbered turdskin office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Citrine Costumed Senate Son Of Senegal

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Mewling internal respiration

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Mewling internal respiration

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone bisexual coldplay fan roommate

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Irradiated indian lodge sandwich

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: bipolar hell pistol

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: peach exhilarant church building

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Frum coral theater

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Frum coral theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Jet-lagged trailer park queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)