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Cell phone company offered me 400k to build an antenna on my property

30 year lease and they get an easement. Ljl when it rains it...
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
Ask for 1m
claret massive national headpube
  03/23/17
Honestly i'd let them do it for 10k i get no service here no...
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
You need to price this out. A cell phone antenna attachment...
big sadistic state
  03/23/17
Seriously?
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
hero
aromatic famous landscape painting
  03/23/17
"Look at the value of $3,500 per month for 30 years, di...
Obsidian feces
  03/23/17
Good question
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
Why are you assuming the cash flow won't grow? Need to know ...
bright gay wizard french chef
  03/23/17
Why would I assume otherwise?
Obsidian feces
  03/23/17
So you are asking him to ask for the entire present value of...
brindle corner
  03/23/17
Enjoy brain cancer.
brindle corner
  03/23/17
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charismatic naked lodge roast beef
  03/23/17
He's gonna live forever.
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  03/24/17
Libs losing hoap
Cerebral Private Investor Home
  03/23/17
Enjoy ur cancer
Gaped avocado native faggotry
  03/23/17
Thats flame, plus it will be up on a hill a ways away from a...
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
Demand 800k
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  03/24/17
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  03/23/17
half cash, half coke
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passionate pistol
  03/23/17
Demand a clause that you get to fuck around on the antenna a...
boyish wild shrine
  03/23/17
Yeah. Climbing it is FUN. BOUNCY! BOUNCY! BOUNCY!
brindle corner
  03/23/17
I wonder it i could tap into their bandwidth
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
(kindergarten cop kid)
lake kink-friendly site
  03/23/17
Free upgrades for life!
Swashbuckling Psychic
  03/23/17
Many, many people who do this ultimately regret it. At th...
Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station
  03/23/17
this is correct. it costs about $75,000 in 2017 dollars to r...
buff indian lodge alpha
  03/23/17
why would you want to remove the tower? Can rig it for your ...
tantric location
  03/23/17
Because (a) it sounds like it's no where near a road, (b) in...
Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station
  03/23/17
"They arent going to give you permission to put a giant...
curious fanboi
  03/23/17
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vibrant turquoise locus
  03/24/17
Huge Christmas tree.
Obsidian feces
  03/24/17
Best tree house ever.
Obsidian feces
  03/24/17
Oh and if you ever want to subdivide and sell you have a gia...
Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station
  03/23/17
that's not how it works, dude. you discount the future co...
bistre wagecucks garrison
  03/23/17
i have a lot of land so its not really a worry. This would b...
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
ask for 20,000 ETH instead
Lemon supple theater stage hairy legs
  03/23/17
C A N C E R clause dude: seriously, demand something re: can...
impressive nowag
  03/23/17
lol at anyone telling him to demand anything. he doesn't own...
buff indian lodge alpha
  03/23/17
MAKE | GOOD | DEALS they'll reject so then say FMV in ...
scarlet aphrodisiac pit
  03/23/17
no they won't. they'll just make their offer to a different ...
buff indian lodge alpha
  03/23/17
well this presumes there's not someone immediately next door...
scarlet aphrodisiac pit
  03/23/17
there's about one cell tower every square half mile in a den...
buff indian lodge alpha
  03/23/17
not doing subthread wasteland here, aspie, I think u get my ...
scarlet aphrodisiac pit
  03/23/17
Ask for more Demand more for every co-tenant Get a decent ...
insane spectacular pervert tank
  03/23/17
And they give him Boost Mobile FOR LIFE.
Obsidian feces
  03/23/17
With unlimited data.
insane spectacular pervert tank
  03/23/17
LJL. I've handled some of these deals. The cell company in...
thriller mint base volcanic crater
  03/23/17
great advice. worth $10ks im sure.
bistre wagecucks garrison
  03/23/17
Sounds like he also has to get the other side to cover his l...
crystalline plaza
  03/23/17
of course.
thriller mint base volcanic crater
  03/23/17
I imagine this is all boilerplate stuff they do these all th...
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
you imagine wrong. they usually try to pay out a fixed sum,...
thriller mint base volcanic crater
  03/23/17
Crazy, good to know
startled black coldplay fan
  03/23/17
I helped somebody do one of these once. Lease was like 30 pa...
insane spectacular pervert tank
  03/23/17
In a few of the ones I've done the provisions aren't boilerp...
Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station
  03/23/17
also they don't include repair and takeaway costs, so when t...
aggressive unhinged idiot
  03/23/17
lol @ assuming kindness and decency from a corporation
bistre wagecucks garrison
  03/24/17
Woah Cr friend!
Nudist Amber Trump Supporter
  03/24/17
If you play hardball, they will go next door. Now you have a...
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  03/24/17


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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

30 year lease and they get an easement. Ljl when it rains it pours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898824)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: claret massive national headpube

Ask for 1m

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898841)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

Honestly i'd let them do it for 10k i get no service here now, plus they will run fiber to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898846)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:01 PM
Author: big sadistic state

You need to price this out. A cell phone antenna attachment pays rent of about $700 per month to be on a tower. Each carrier will want an attachment on the tower, so you typically will see 4-5 attachments per tower. Look at the value of $3,500 per month for 30 years, discounted to present value. That's how much you should be asking for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898917)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

Seriously?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898926)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: aromatic famous landscape painting

hero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898935)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Obsidian feces

"Look at the value of $3,500 per month for 30 years, discounted to present value."

Given bankruptcy and enforcement risk, I judge this a mildly risky investment and apply a 10% discount, valuing the $3,500 cash flow at about $420,000.

What's the tax treatment for $3,500 monthly payments? Ordinary income would be TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899191)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

Good question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899230)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:29 PM
Author: bright gay wizard french chef

Why are you assuming the cash flow won't grow? Need to know the term of $700/month leases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900066)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:30 PM
Author: Obsidian feces

Why would I assume otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901775)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:53 PM
Author: brindle corner

So you are asking him to ask for the entire present value of what the tower company will make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899247)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: brindle corner

Enjoy brain cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899225)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: charismatic naked lodge roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899363)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: bearded range generalized bond

He's gonna live forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901790)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:57 PM
Author: Primrose legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902057)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: ruby hilarious business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32903135)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: sepia athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905312)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:54 PM
Author: Cerebral Private Investor Home

Libs losing hoap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898850)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: Gaped avocado native faggotry

Enjoy ur cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898852)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

Thats flame, plus it will be up on a hill a ways away from anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898859)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: saffron irradiated newt

Demand 800k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898853)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: Hairraiser Useless Juggernaut Trailer Park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898924)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: Nudist Amber Trump Supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904338)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: Razzle new version institution

Woah Cr Friend!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898879)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: lake kink-friendly site

half cash, half coke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898881)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: domesticated clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898891)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:33 PM
Author: bearded range generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901792)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: passionate pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898928)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: boyish wild shrine

Demand a clause that you get to fuck around on the antenna as much as you like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899264)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: brindle corner

Yeah. Climbing it is FUN. BOUNCY! BOUNCY! BOUNCY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899281)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

I wonder it i could tap into their bandwidth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899320)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:18 PM
Author: lake kink-friendly site

(kindergarten cop kid)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899432)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:16 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Psychic

Free upgrades for life!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899413)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:22 PM
Author: Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station

Many, many people who do this ultimately regret it.

At the end of the lease do they have to repair the property? They like to leave the foundation and footings in the ground which can be very expensive to remove. I've even heard tower guys say over a few drinks that they sometimes try to sneak it in that they have no obligation to even remove the tower. After 30 years it's likely obsolete or nearing the end of its useful life anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899996)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:28 PM
Author: buff indian lodge alpha

this is correct. it costs about $75,000 in 2017 dollars to remove a full tower and the foundation. factor in inflation over 30 years and you're basically paying them for the tower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900062)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: tantric location

why would you want to remove the tower? Can rig it for your own use or sell billboards on that shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900121)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station

Because (a) it sounds like it's no where near a road, (b) in many jurisdictions billboards are almost as highly regulated as strip clubs. They arent going to give you permission to put a giant fucking sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower and (c) the sign company isn't going to want to put a valuable giant sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900198)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:53 PM
Author: curious fanboi

"They arent going to give you permission to put a giant fucking sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower and (c) the sign company isn't going to want to put a valuable giant sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower. "

this made me chortle out loud in my office. ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900347)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: vibrant turquoise locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905360)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:48 AM
Author: Obsidian feces

Huge Christmas tree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904335)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:54 AM
Author: Obsidian feces

Best tree house ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904343)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station

Oh and if you ever want to subdivide and sell you have a giant fuckkng tower to deal with as well as some prole cunt who thinks she's going to get cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900237)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: bistre wagecucks garrison

that's not how it works, dude.

you discount the future cost to the present.

let's say the real discount rate is 1%. that means the present value of the cost of tearing it down after 30 years is $56K or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901861)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

i have a lot of land so its not really a worry. This would be in an area i check once a year or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900332)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:30 PM
Author: Lemon supple theater stage hairy legs

ask for 20,000 ETH instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900082)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:31 PM
Author: impressive nowag

C A N C E R clause dude: seriously, demand something re: cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900093)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:33 PM
Author: buff indian lodge alpha

lol at anyone telling him to demand anything. he doesn't own all the land in the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900108)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: scarlet aphrodisiac pit

MAKE | GOOD | DEALS

they'll reject

so then say FMV in your estimate is higher than what offered, get a few extra bucks out of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900124)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:36 PM
Author: buff indian lodge alpha

no they won't. they'll just make their offer to a different guy down the road and hope he's dumber and more prole/short-sighted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900141)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:36 PM
Author: scarlet aphrodisiac pit

well this presumes there's not someone immediately next door, obviously

think of it like oil drilling

there's a reason they pick parcel A or B

but yeah if this guy has someone next door I might not be a HARDBALLER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900151)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: buff indian lodge alpha

there's about one cell tower every square half mile in a densely populated area. do you know how many acres that is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900193)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: scarlet aphrodisiac pit

not doing subthread wasteland here, aspie, I think u get my point and I certainly acknowledge with the facts on your side, it would make sense to take the offer



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900200)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:26 PM
Author: insane spectacular pervert tank

Ask for more

Demand more for every co-tenant

Get a decent inflation rate increase every 5 years

They pay increased property tax

Check with your homeowners. They pay if you need a rider

They pay to restore the grounds to like new condition

They indemnify and have duty to defend any administrative actions (zoning, environmental, etc.)

They indemnify and have duty to defend any civil actions

They maintain access road

Probably more I'm not thinking of. Better check with a realtor, ask how it affects resale value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901748)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: Obsidian feces

And they give him Boost Mobile FOR LIFE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901784)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:35 PM
Author: insane spectacular pervert tank

With unlimited data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901825)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:34 PM
Author: thriller mint base volcanic crater

LJL. I've handled some of these deals. The cell company invariably ends up fucking the property owner.

OP, if you decide to do it, negotiate the actual cost of utilities, recalculated every X months, as an addition to any rents, and make the cell company install and use a separate meter (better) or third-party submeter (worse) for their power usage. You don't want them on your meter if you can help it - they run up your KW draw as well as your kWh usage. If you don't understand the difference, you need to do more research before you sign anything. Include utilities taxes, fees, etc as part of the deal. Also, make them pay for all maintenance, indemnify you for any damage, repair, environmental issues, noise, etc., and include a termination clause you can execute. A five-year lease with renewal options is probably better than 30 years. Then promptly stay on top of that shit and evict them the second things go sour - you can usually renegotiate for better terms at the threat of a UD suit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901812)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:41 PM
Author: bistre wagecucks garrison

great advice. worth $10ks im sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901887)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:43 PM
Author: crystalline plaza

Sounds like he also has to get the other side to cover his legal fees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901920)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:02 PM
Author: thriller mint base volcanic crater

of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902100)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

I imagine this is all boilerplate stuff they do these all the time, of couse they pay utilities etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902112)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: thriller mint base volcanic crater

you imagine wrong. they usually try to pay out a fixed sum, or a fixed monthly utilities payment when the actual utilities costs increase regularly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902120)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:04 PM
Author: startled black coldplay fan

Crazy, good to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902129)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:41 PM
Author: insane spectacular pervert tank

I helped somebody do one of these once. Lease was like 30 pages, and had none of the stuff I listed above or that mccheese is talking about. U have to ask for all of it, their boilerplate lease is one sided as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902470)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: Topaz twisted twinkling uncleanness station

In a few of the ones I've done the provisions aren't boilerplate per de but are one sided and unless you have a good industry knowledgeable attorney push hard for you they'll say they can't change the majority of it because "bullshit, bullshit and bullshit". They can and do change them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32903368)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: aggressive unhinged idiot

also they don't include repair and takeaway costs, so when they finish with the tower or it breaks in a storm, they just abandon it and the land owner is left with worthless shit on his property that costs a fuckton to remove

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32903386)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: bistre wagecucks garrison

lol @ assuming kindness and decency from a corporation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905329)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: Nudist Amber Trump Supporter

Woah Cr friend!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904339)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: sepia athletic conference

If you play hardball, they will go next door. Now you have a giant cell tower next door (and thus cancer) but no 400k.

All in all, YOUR fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905328)