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Cell phone company offered me 400k to build an antenna on my property

30 year lease and they get an easement. Ljl when it rains it...
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
Ask for 1m
Turquoise Fragrant Home Main People
  03/23/17
Honestly i'd let them do it for 10k i get no service here no...
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
You need to price this out. A cell phone antenna attachment...
Contagious Seedy Center Milk
  03/23/17
Seriously?
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
hero
Chartreuse heady stage
  03/23/17
"Look at the value of $3,500 per month for 30 years, di...
Mustard Sinister Theater Stage
  03/23/17
Good question
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
Why are you assuming the cash flow won't grow? Need to know ...
Nubile Wild Spot
  03/23/17
Why would I assume otherwise?
Mustard Sinister Theater Stage
  03/23/17
So you are asking him to ask for the entire present value of...
excitant volcanic crater
  03/23/17
Enjoy brain cancer.
excitant volcanic crater
  03/23/17
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Soul-stirring Lodge
  03/23/17
He's gonna live forever.
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flushed indirect expression candlestick maker
  03/24/17
Libs losing hoap
cerebral stubborn toilet seat halford
  03/23/17
Enjoy ur cancer
Stimulating Garnet Stead
  03/23/17
Thats flame, plus it will be up on a hill a ways away from a...
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
Demand 800k
curious pale library international law enforcement agency
  03/23/17
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Bat-shit-crazy step-uncle's house french chef
  03/23/17
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Well-lubricated resort
  03/24/17
Woah Cr Friend!
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  03/23/17
half cash, half coke
Pink marvelous menage
  03/23/17
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wonderful public bath brethren
  03/23/17
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trip grizzly indian lodge
  03/23/17
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Fiercely-loyal school macaca
  03/23/17
Demand a clause that you get to fuck around on the antenna a...
Onyx Frozen Range Patrolman
  03/23/17
Yeah. Climbing it is FUN. BOUNCY! BOUNCY! BOUNCY!
excitant volcanic crater
  03/23/17
I wonder it i could tap into their bandwidth
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
(kindergarten cop kid)
Pink marvelous menage
  03/23/17
Free upgrades for life!
aqua really tough guy
  03/23/17
Many, many people who do this ultimately regret it. At th...
electric field
  03/23/17
this is correct. it costs about $75,000 in 2017 dollars to r...
bright masturbator kitchen
  03/23/17
why would you want to remove the tower? Can rig it for your ...
hideous abode round eye
  03/23/17
Because (a) it sounds like it's no where near a road, (b) in...
electric field
  03/23/17
"They arent going to give you permission to put a giant...
bistre business firm circlehead
  03/23/17
...
pungent hell background story
  03/24/17
Huge Christmas tree.
Mustard Sinister Theater Stage
  03/24/17
Best tree house ever.
Mustard Sinister Theater Stage
  03/24/17
Oh and if you ever want to subdivide and sell you have a gia...
electric field
  03/23/17
that's not how it works, dude. you discount the future co...
Khaki laughsome black woman
  03/23/17
i have a lot of land so its not really a worry. This would b...
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
ask for 20,000 ETH instead
Amber nighttime faggot firefighter
  03/23/17
C A N C E R clause dude: seriously, demand something re: can...
brindle stirring idea he suggested crotch
  03/23/17
lol at anyone telling him to demand anything. he doesn't own...
bright masturbator kitchen
  03/23/17
MAKE | GOOD | DEALS they'll reject so then say FMV in ...
boyish sapphire factory reset button
  03/23/17
no they won't. they'll just make their offer to a different ...
bright masturbator kitchen
  03/23/17
well this presumes there's not someone immediately next door...
boyish sapphire factory reset button
  03/23/17
there's about one cell tower every square half mile in a den...
bright masturbator kitchen
  03/23/17
not doing subthread wasteland here, aspie, I think u get my ...
boyish sapphire factory reset button
  03/23/17
Ask for more Demand more for every co-tenant Get a decent ...
adulterous poppy base
  03/23/17
And they give him Boost Mobile FOR LIFE.
Mustard Sinister Theater Stage
  03/23/17
With unlimited data.
adulterous poppy base
  03/23/17
LJL. I've handled some of these deals. The cell company in...
avocado slap-happy karate
  03/23/17
great advice. worth $10ks im sure.
Khaki laughsome black woman
  03/23/17
Sounds like he also has to get the other side to cover his l...
Light stage goyim
  03/23/17
of course.
avocado slap-happy karate
  03/23/17
I imagine this is all boilerplate stuff they do these all th...
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
you imagine wrong. they usually try to pay out a fixed sum,...
avocado slap-happy karate
  03/23/17
Crazy, good to know
haunting very tactful gas station becky
  03/23/17
I helped somebody do one of these once. Lease was like 30 pa...
adulterous poppy base
  03/23/17
In a few of the ones I've done the provisions aren't boilerp...
electric field
  03/23/17
also they don't include repair and takeaway costs, so when t...
multi-colored queen of the night
  03/23/17
lol @ assuming kindness and decency from a corporation
Khaki laughsome black woman
  03/24/17
Woah Cr friend!
Well-lubricated resort
  03/24/17
If you play hardball, they will go next door. Now you have a...
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  03/24/17


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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

30 year lease and they get an easement. Ljl when it rains it pours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898824)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Turquoise Fragrant Home Main People

Ask for 1m

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898841)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

Honestly i'd let them do it for 10k i get no service here now, plus they will run fiber to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898846)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:01 PM
Author: Contagious Seedy Center Milk

You need to price this out. A cell phone antenna attachment pays rent of about $700 per month to be on a tower. Each carrier will want an attachment on the tower, so you typically will see 4-5 attachments per tower. Look at the value of $3,500 per month for 30 years, discounted to present value. That's how much you should be asking for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898917)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

Seriously?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898926)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: Chartreuse heady stage

hero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898935)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Mustard Sinister Theater Stage

"Look at the value of $3,500 per month for 30 years, discounted to present value."

Given bankruptcy and enforcement risk, I judge this a mildly risky investment and apply a 10% discount, valuing the $3,500 cash flow at about $420,000.

What's the tax treatment for $3,500 monthly payments? Ordinary income would be TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899191)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

Good question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899230)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:29 PM
Author: Nubile Wild Spot

Why are you assuming the cash flow won't grow? Need to know the term of $700/month leases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900066)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:30 PM
Author: Mustard Sinister Theater Stage

Why would I assume otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901775)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:53 PM
Author: excitant volcanic crater

So you are asking him to ask for the entire present value of what the tower company will make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899247)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: excitant volcanic crater

Enjoy brain cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899225)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899363)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: trip grizzly indian lodge

He's gonna live forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901790)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:57 PM
Author: Deep floppy potus twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902057)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: angry bronze nursing home skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32903135)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: flushed indirect expression candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905312)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:54 PM
Author: cerebral stubborn toilet seat halford

Libs losing hoap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898850)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: Stimulating Garnet Stead

Enjoy ur cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898852)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

Thats flame, plus it will be up on a hill a ways away from anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898859)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: curious pale library international law enforcement agency

Demand 800k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898853)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy step-uncle's house french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898924)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: Well-lubricated resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904338)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: drunken alcoholic tanning salon regret

Woah Cr Friend!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898879)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: Pink marvelous menage

half cash, half coke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898881)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: wonderful public bath brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898891)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:33 PM
Author: trip grizzly indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901792)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal school macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32898928)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Onyx Frozen Range Patrolman

Demand a clause that you get to fuck around on the antenna as much as you like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899264)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: excitant volcanic crater

Yeah. Climbing it is FUN. BOUNCY! BOUNCY! BOUNCY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899281)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

I wonder it i could tap into their bandwidth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899320)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:18 PM
Author: Pink marvelous menage

(kindergarten cop kid)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899432)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 4:16 PM
Author: aqua really tough guy

Free upgrades for life!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899413)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:22 PM
Author: electric field

Many, many people who do this ultimately regret it.

At the end of the lease do they have to repair the property? They like to leave the foundation and footings in the ground which can be very expensive to remove. I've even heard tower guys say over a few drinks that they sometimes try to sneak it in that they have no obligation to even remove the tower. After 30 years it's likely obsolete or nearing the end of its useful life anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32899996)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:28 PM
Author: bright masturbator kitchen

this is correct. it costs about $75,000 in 2017 dollars to remove a full tower and the foundation. factor in inflation over 30 years and you're basically paying them for the tower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900062)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: hideous abode round eye

why would you want to remove the tower? Can rig it for your own use or sell billboards on that shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900121)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: electric field

Because (a) it sounds like it's no where near a road, (b) in many jurisdictions billboards are almost as highly regulated as strip clubs. They arent going to give you permission to put a giant fucking sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower and (c) the sign company isn't going to want to put a valuable giant sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900198)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:53 PM
Author: bistre business firm circlehead

"They arent going to give you permission to put a giant fucking sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower and (c) the sign company isn't going to want to put a valuable giant sign on a jury rigged rusting out cell phone tower. "

this made me chortle out loud in my office. ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900347)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: pungent hell background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905360)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:48 AM
Author: Mustard Sinister Theater Stage

Huge Christmas tree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904335)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:54 AM
Author: Mustard Sinister Theater Stage

Best tree house ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32904343)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: electric field

Oh and if you ever want to subdivide and sell you have a giant fuckkng tower to deal with as well as some prole cunt who thinks she's going to get cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900237)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Khaki laughsome black woman

that's not how it works, dude.

you discount the future cost to the present.

let's say the real discount rate is 1%. that means the present value of the cost of tearing it down after 30 years is $56K or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901861)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

i have a lot of land so its not really a worry. This would be in an area i check once a year or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900332)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:30 PM
Author: Amber nighttime faggot firefighter

ask for 20,000 ETH instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900082)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:31 PM
Author: brindle stirring idea he suggested crotch

C A N C E R clause dude: seriously, demand something re: cancer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900093)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:33 PM
Author: bright masturbator kitchen

lol at anyone telling him to demand anything. he doesn't own all the land in the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900108)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:34 PM
Author: boyish sapphire factory reset button

MAKE | GOOD | DEALS

they'll reject

so then say FMV in your estimate is higher than what offered, get a few extra bucks out of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900124)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:36 PM
Author: bright masturbator kitchen

no they won't. they'll just make their offer to a different guy down the road and hope he's dumber and more prole/short-sighted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900141)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:36 PM
Author: boyish sapphire factory reset button

well this presumes there's not someone immediately next door, obviously

think of it like oil drilling

there's a reason they pick parcel A or B

but yeah if this guy has someone next door I might not be a HARDBALLER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900151)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: bright masturbator kitchen

there's about one cell tower every square half mile in a densely populated area. do you know how many acres that is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900193)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: boyish sapphire factory reset button

not doing subthread wasteland here, aspie, I think u get my point and I certainly acknowledge with the facts on your side, it would make sense to take the offer



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32900200)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:26 PM
Author: adulterous poppy base

Ask for more

Demand more for every co-tenant

Get a decent inflation rate increase every 5 years

They pay increased property tax

Check with your homeowners. They pay if you need a rider

They pay to restore the grounds to like new condition

They indemnify and have duty to defend any administrative actions (zoning, environmental, etc.)

They indemnify and have duty to defend any civil actions

They maintain access road

Probably more I'm not thinking of. Better check with a realtor, ask how it affects resale value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901748)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: Mustard Sinister Theater Stage

And they give him Boost Mobile FOR LIFE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901784)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:35 PM
Author: adulterous poppy base

With unlimited data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901825)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:34 PM
Author: avocado slap-happy karate

LJL. I've handled some of these deals. The cell company invariably ends up fucking the property owner.

OP, if you decide to do it, negotiate the actual cost of utilities, recalculated every X months, as an addition to any rents, and make the cell company install and use a separate meter (better) or third-party submeter (worse) for their power usage. You don't want them on your meter if you can help it - they run up your KW draw as well as your kWh usage. If you don't understand the difference, you need to do more research before you sign anything. Include utilities taxes, fees, etc as part of the deal. Also, make them pay for all maintenance, indemnify you for any damage, repair, environmental issues, noise, etc., and include a termination clause you can execute. A five-year lease with renewal options is probably better than 30 years. Then promptly stay on top of that shit and evict them the second things go sour - you can usually renegotiate for better terms at the threat of a UD suit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901812)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:41 PM
Author: Khaki laughsome black woman

great advice. worth $10ks im sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901887)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 8:43 PM
Author: Light stage goyim

Sounds like he also has to get the other side to cover his legal fees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32901920)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:02 PM
Author: avocado slap-happy karate

of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902100)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

I imagine this is all boilerplate stuff they do these all the time, of couse they pay utilities etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902112)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: avocado slap-happy karate

you imagine wrong. they usually try to pay out a fixed sum, or a fixed monthly utilities payment when the actual utilities costs increase regularly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902120)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:04 PM
Author: haunting very tactful gas station becky

Crazy, good to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902129)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 9:41 PM
Author: adulterous poppy base

I helped somebody do one of these once. Lease was like 30 pages, and had none of the stuff I listed above or that mccheese is talking about. U have to ask for all of it, their boilerplate lease is one sided as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32902470)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: electric field

In a few of the ones I've done the provisions aren't boilerplate per de but are one sided and unless you have a good industry knowledgeable attorney push hard for you they'll say they can't change the majority of it because "bullshit, bullshit and bullshit". They can and do change them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32903368)



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Date: March 23rd, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: multi-colored queen of the night

also they don't include repair and takeaway costs, so when they finish with the tower or it breaks in a storm, they just abandon it and the land owner is left with worthless shit on his property that costs a fuckton to remove

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32903386)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: Khaki laughsome black woman

lol @ assuming kindness and decency from a corporation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3562000&forum_id=2#32905329)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: Well-lubricated resort

Woah Cr friend!

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Date: March 24th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: flushed indirect expression candlestick maker

If you play hardball, they will go next door. Now you have a giant cell tower next door (and thus cancer) but no 400k.

All in all, YOUR fucked.

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