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Asians coming after Princeton for discriminating against them in admissions

http://www.splc.org/blog/splc/2017/03/princeton-foia-lawsuit...
Rusted Excitant Stage
  03/24/17
180 subplot to the lib carnival cArtoon world
Tan cheese-eating rehab
  03/24/17
really doubt libs will ever let this happen they'd re-enact...
marvelous affirmative action useless brakes
  03/24/17
Cr They'd put people in gitmo if need be
cowardly zippy set
  03/25/17
Sneaky sneaky
Cracking startling associate dragon
  03/24/17
no way princeton loses
bateful keepsake machete
  03/25/17
How did they settle on Pton for the lawsuit? White privilege...
Lemon painfully honest goal in life
  03/25/17
I think P has fewer Azns than HYSM
dull ungodly house
  03/25/17
They all do it though. Only CalTech is innocent of this.
Lemon painfully honest goal in life
  03/25/17
The year after the first major lawsuit, Asian representation...
passionate chad
  03/26/17
ridiculous. when i was applying to colleges, the widespre...
Salmon spot
  03/26/17
Odd. At my high school, Princeton would take 2300+-scorin...
passionate chad
  03/26/17
yep. it's also suspicious when a school's racial composition...
Salmon spot
  03/26/17
The only smart Azn bro from my HS went to Princeton (late 90...
dull ungodly house
  03/26/17
wow
Razzmatazz Light Business Firm
  03/26/17
Seems a lot of azns bros i kno got dinged from P. I got into...
white stirring deer antler
  03/26/17
Didn't some Asians already sue Harvard?
Crimson Fantasy-prone Stock Car Theater Stage
  03/26/17
but what about asian privilege?
peach stead generalized bond
  03/26/17
Ivies were ruined when they admitted jews so might as well t...
Self-absorbed genital piercing theatre
  03/26/17
if they got rid of AA, my guess is HYP will be 30% asian but...
bateful keepsake machete
  03/26/17
that URL is 18000000 trolling against the southern poverty l...
Glittery ticket booth ratface
  03/26/17
What's the Jewish percentage at HUG?
Obsidian Persian
  03/26/17
http://features.thecrimson.com/2016/freshman-survey/lifestyl...
Glittery ticket booth ratface
  03/26/17
So they don't classify Jewish ethnicity?
Obsidian Persian
  03/26/17
nope. the US census also stopped doing it in 1970 or somethi...
Glittery ticket booth ratface
  03/26/17


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Date: March 24th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: Rusted Excitant Stage

http://www.splc.org/blog/splc/2017/03/princeton-foia-lawsuit

Princeton sues to protect admissions documents sought in FOIA request to DOE

By Jessica Kelham-Hohler | Published 19 minutes ago

Princeton University has filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Education to prevent the release of hundreds of pages of admissions documents being sought under a FOIA request.

The FOIA request was filed on Oct. 27, 2015, by nonprofit group Students for Fair Admissions (“SFA”), an organization that believes that race should play no role – helpful or harmful – in a university’s admissions decisions. The group is seeking documents pertaining to the DOE’s Office for Civil Rights investigation into complaints that the university discriminated against Asian and Asian-American applicants.

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The investigation, which was part of a seven-year investigation of Ivy League admissions processes by the OCR, closed in 2015 after finding there was insufficient evidence of discrimination. In a 20-page letter to the university President Christopher L. Eisgruber, OCR wrote that they found that “the University weighed multiple factors in assessing applicants" and that it "treated each applicant as an individual, without making an applicant's race or national origin a defining characteristic,"

The DOE has so far provided SFA with 868 pages of documents under its FOIA request, and anticipated releasing the remaining 861 that same week before Princeton filed its ‘reverse FOIA’ lawsuit on March 17.

The documents include demographic data and other internal policies and practices concerning Princeton’s admissions process. According to Princeton’s complaint, the documents also include “certain individuals’ application packets for admission.” The university argues that the “disclosure of the materials would put the University at a substantial competitive disadvantage to identify, evaluate, and enroll prospective students, as well as potentially discourage applicants from applying to the University in the future if they have concerns about the confidentiality of the materials they submit.”

The DOE had already rejected Princeton’s objections to the release of the documents. On March 1 they asserted in a letter to Princeton that a FOIA exemption designed to protect confidential commercial and financial information “does not apply to any of the materials that the university has produced to OCR.” In the letter they also assured Princeton that they would redact any information that may identify particular candidates.

In an interview with POLITICO, Edward Blum, the director of SFA, said that Princeton’s lawsuit to block the records “suggests that it has something important that they want to hide from the public.”

According to the POLITICO article, Blum, who was one of the advocates backing Abigail Fisher in her high-profile suit over Texas' admissions policies that made it to the Supreme Court, said that his organization thinks these documents could be the starting point for a new lawsuit.

SFA has ongoing lawsuits against Harvard and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, accusing them of racial discrimination against undergraduate applicants. In November 2014, SFA filed a complaint against Harvard alleging that the university uses racial “quotas” to disadvantage Asian-American undergraduate applicants. They filed their complaint against UNC that same month, alleging that white and Asian-American applicants were disadvantaged in favor of students of other races.

In a statement to SPLC, Daniel Day, a spokesperson for Princeton University, wrote, “The University filed the lawsuit to honor the promise of confidentiality we make to all applicants and their families. This is important prospectively as well as retrospectively, so future applicants will be willing to provide materials to us knowing the confidentiality of their materials will be respected, and so previous applicants will have their personal information and materials protected.”

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32909213)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: Tan cheese-eating rehab

180 subplot to the lib carnival cArtoon world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32909219)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 5:17 PM
Author: marvelous affirmative action useless brakes

really doubt libs will ever let this happen

they'd re-enact the chinese exclusion act if it meant protecting their precious "diversity"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32909227)



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Date: March 25th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: cowardly zippy set

Cr

They'd put people in gitmo if need be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32917952)



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Date: March 24th, 2017 5:21 PM
Author: Cracking startling associate dragon

Sneaky sneaky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32909270)



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Date: March 25th, 2017 11:40 PM
Author: bateful keepsake machete

no way princeton loses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32917851)



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Date: March 25th, 2017 11:44 PM
Author: Lemon painfully honest goal in life

How did they settle on Pton for the lawsuit? White privilege or #1 US News ranking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32917873)



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Date: March 25th, 2017 11:57 PM
Author: dull ungodly house

I think P has fewer Azns than HYSM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32917960)



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Date: March 25th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Lemon painfully honest goal in life

They all do it though. Only CalTech is innocent of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32917964)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: passionate chad

The year after the first major lawsuit, Asian representation increased from 10 percent to 20 percent, and it's been around 20 percent ever since (it had always been around 10 percent).

This raises red flags, when only ~160 Asians had deserved admission, supposedly, and now ~320 Asians are worthy.

Lesson learned: never concede or give that appearance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918040)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:11 AM
Author: Salmon spot

ridiculous.

when i was applying to colleges, the widespread impression we had was princeton was harder for asians to get into than other top schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918047)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: passionate chad

Odd.

At my high school, Princeton would take 2300+-scoring Whites with solid GPAs (and 2100+-scoring Blacks/Hispanics with solid GPAs).

Regardless of our empirical observations it's suspicious when the Asian population of a university doubles immediately after a major lawsuit and remains doubled thereafter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918091)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Salmon spot

yep. it's also suspicious when a school's racial composition is eerily consistent year to year:

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quota

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918118)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:19 AM
Author: dull ungodly house

The only smart Azn bro from my HS went to Princeton (late 90s)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918105)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:14 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Light Business Firm

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918069)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: white stirring deer antler

Seems a lot of azns bros i kno got dinged from P. I got into HY but not P. Others i know got dinged at HYP but went to S. A spic friend of mine got off the waitlist for P

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918127)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: Crimson Fantasy-prone Stock Car Theater Stage

Didn't some Asians already sue Harvard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918265)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: peach stead generalized bond

but what about asian privilege?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918119)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 12:48 AM
Author: Self-absorbed genital piercing theatre

Ivies were ruined when they admitted jews so might as well turn into UCSD east and become 70% gook. Ljl at this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918234)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 2:57 AM
Author: bateful keepsake machete

if they got rid of AA, my guess is HYP will be 30% asian but nowhere near 70%. there aren't THAT many asians qualified for HYP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918796)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 3:05 AM
Author: Glittery ticket booth ratface

that URL is 18000000 trolling against the southern poverty law center

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918816)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 3:35 AM
Author: Obsidian Persian

What's the Jewish percentage at HUG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918861)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 4:00 AM
Author: Glittery ticket booth ratface

http://features.thecrimson.com/2016/freshman-survey/lifestyle/

about 1/6 of students not reporting atheist or agnostic are jewish. it drops to 1/10 for the class of 2020, which is a little odd and might be an error. especially since if you go to "religion by ethnicity" you'll see the jewish percentage for whites is 0.3% that year compared to 15%+ in previous years, like someone made a booboo with their spreadsheet or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918883)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 4:12 AM
Author: Obsidian Persian

So they don't classify Jewish ethnicity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918900)



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Date: March 26th, 2017 4:14 AM
Author: Glittery ticket booth ratface

nope. the US census also stopped doing it in 1970 or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3563259&forum_id=2#32918904)