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Up for partner this year and want to killself. Taking questions
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone V20. It will be income because I'm a litigator. Taking questions until I get off the train. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121894) |
Date: April 20th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: Hyperactive misunderstood set sweet tailpipe compensation of income partner?
odds and timeline of becoming equity? |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone $500-600k. If I do very well, 2-3 years. If not, who knows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121908) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:32 PM Author: Hyperactive misunderstood set sweet tailpipe fuck my ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121913) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone The minority make equity on that timeline. But I'm in one of the better groups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121936) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: amber stage becky Are you chill with junior associates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121988) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone I think I have a reputation as one of the best supervisors. I try not to overwork people and, when I have to, I try to make sure they're at least involved in the strategy (not that this really makes it better). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122032) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:02 PM Author: amber stage becky It makes it better
If you could give your 28yr old self a piece of advice, what would it be? |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone My firm will never admit this, but it is sort of a lifestyle firm for junior associates. If they turn down work, nobody will bother them. If they want to take off, nobody asks them to cancel their trip. So, enjoy it as a junior. Take lots of vacations, travel abroad, and bill the minimal number of hours. If you happen to stay until you're a senior associate, nobody knows or remembers what you did as a junior (unless your work was shit). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122160) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:31 PM Author: amber stage becky So if you had billed less and taken more vacations as a 28yr old, you wouldnt want to killself now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122319) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone No. It's tough now. I just wish I did more when it was easier to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122404) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: Frozen Corner Cuckold If you don't have a ridiculous lifestyle, you could theoretically retire after 2-3 years as an income partner. Why not do that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122015) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone Not even close. I live in an expensive area and have a family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122042) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:57 PM Author: Stimulating jet-lagged travel guidebook you could retire on a few million and live a middle-class lifestyle but you won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122046) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: hairraiser idiot bbw hard to save a few million after just a few years even at his salary... unless he has a significant chunk already saved up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122052) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone I don't have a few million and, you're right, I won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122055) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:29 PM Author: vibrant emerald patrolman love of her life i don't know that "retirement" is a real thing anymore in that people who retire really stop being productive in a lot of facets of life. if anything, jump to something new, start a business, etc. but don't ever fully "retire". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122296) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM Author: Stimulating jet-lagged travel guidebook golden handcuffs. hedonic treadmill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122043) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:57 PM Author: hairraiser idiot bbw What's the lowest you've billed in a year?
Highest you've billed in a year?
Average you've billed in a year?
If you don't make partner the first time, do they kick you out or do they basically let you chill as long as you are making the firm money, and reconsider you in subsequent years? |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone Lowest is probably 1850 or 1900 (early in my career). Highest is last year at 2850. Average isn't that high -- probably 2100. But the last few years have been way above average.
My group will keep you around if you're making money, especially because there is a lack of good senior associates. Probably defer deciding your progression for a bit and eventually make you counsel. |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:11 PM Author: aqua school cafeteria boiling water this sounds like my firm. although billing 2850 and around there the few years before partnership decision would pretty much guarantee you be made partner first time up.
the people not making partner are all billing below 2000... but even they are sticking around as long as they are liked and billing at least 1800 (i.e., making the firm money). |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: orange cruel-hearted step-uncle's house wow, that is uber killself territory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122416) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Cerise Duck-like Church Building was it worth the grind, in terms of your mental health? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122051) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:05 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone I don't know. It has been tough. I like the work, hate the hours, and most of all hate the stress it puts on my wife. Being rich is great but I'm not sure I'm going to stick it out long term. I may get the title and then start looking elsewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122098) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:55 AM Author: Passionate magenta heaven Lol why the fuck would she be stressed. I'm assuming sahm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125581) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:59 PM Author: multi-colored rose fanboi jfc xo the question you need to ask OP is:
"why do you want to kill yourself, bro? what is wrong with life?" |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal ape candlestick maker We're all mentally ill here.
part of the implicit agreement when you hit the poast button |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: multi-colored rose fanboi Yes but there is a wide spectrum of mental illness brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122069) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal ape candlestick maker All sane poasters are alike. Every mentally ill poaster is mentally ill in his own way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122083) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 1:12 AM Author: razzmatazz theater tattoo Underrated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33124472) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:02 PM Author: Mind-boggling fear-inspiring trailer park shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122074) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:59 PM Author: Sienna kitchen How much weight have you gained since you were a first-year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122061) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM Author: Cerise Duck-like Church Building and how are you doing in terms of alcohol/cocaine? are you stable or everyday? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122087) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:08 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone Fatter. No drugs but drink more than I should. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122119) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: thriller blue abode when did you realize you wanted to die despite being richer than 99.99% of people in the world
i don't even mean that passive-aggressively, i am totally willing to buy that luxurious material goods can accompany a life which is still miserable |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:07 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone I'm generally not miserable. The only times I am is when I have to miss my child's school event, work a lot on a vacation, etc. Those make me re-think my choice . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122115) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: Maroon beady-eyed gas station sneaky criminal Look around once you get the partner title. It may help with finding something else. You will never get back those childhood moments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122135) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:17 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone Agreed. We are done having kids and the youngest adores me. I want to be there for as much stuff as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122193) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:27 PM Author: 180 Garnet Location Can we be honest. To the extent you "look around" it will be at other law firms to go do the exact same thing with perhaps marginally better hours. You have it in you to bill 3000 hours a year with small children. You won't quit now, or even 5 years from now when they barely know you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122271) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:32 PM Author: irradiated mischievous rigor kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122323) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:33 PM Author: Vivacious sepia bawdyhouse macaca lol cr, this faggot will die as a senior a law firm partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122341) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:41 PM Author: Bull Headed Telephone Wrong. Zero chance I leave for another law firm -- whether big law, mid-size, or small. The quality of life isn't that much better and I have to prove myself all over again.
If I leave, it will be for an in-house job, but not at a giant company. It will have to be a small company or start-up where I can shape the culture and hire my own people. |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:52 AM Author: Onyx Ratface Dysfunction As a former attorney turned biz person, no startup is hiring litigators. Nor is a small company. Realistically, the options for litigators are pretty minimal--if your goal is to get out of law firm life (which is great, btw), I'd start laying tracks for this ASAP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125557) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:46 PM Author: heady meetinghouse water buffalo dont really have any (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122424) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:49 PM Author: glassy affirmative action one choice. you have a rig of coke and a rig of dope. which one do you choose (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122443) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: big shrine liquid oxygen When you're a "partner," will you still be a bitch who takes direction from other lawyers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122455) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:55 PM Author: Sienna kitchen jesus, just ram it in with no lube at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122499) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 10:04 AM Author: lemon circlehead anyone who isn't a huge rainmaker ultimately falls into this category. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125651) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:57 PM Author: bearded harsh station hairy legs I'm a 6th year and I finally got the balls to turn down work once I have enough to barely hit the 2000-2100 range. My life has improved remarkably since I started this. I'd honestly rather make 350 (or whatever I make after bonus) and have no partnership chance than put in even 2500 hours for a sure shot at partner level dough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122519) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 1:25 AM Author: trip lavender hell Gay thread, what's with all these urbanbaby tards thinking "I want to kill myself" means "I want to irl kill myself to death not flame"
Anytime I'm sluggish in the afternoon and I come back from the shitter and have a voicemail, I think "if this is someone wanting me to do work I'm gonna fucking kill myself." Chill out concernmos |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:58 AM Author: lemon circlehead at least you are at a lockstep firm. I am at a v50-60 (sub v50 obviously) and am a senior associate in a major market making 260k. I am eligible for partner this year (no idea yet if I'm being put up) and believe that first year partners make under 350k base. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125604) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 10:00 AM Author: Swashbuckling Olive Giraffe happy w/ decision to go into law? what were your other options? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125623) |