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$600k in NYC vs $500k in Chicago suburbs
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Date: May 6th, 2017 8:07 AM Author: red digit ratio Am considering two otherwise similar in-house tax jobs. Have never lived in the Midwest but am leaning toward taking less money in Chicago. Have a stay-at-home wife and two kids. Seems like I could get something like https://www.redfin.com/IL/Highland-Park/1746-Sunset-Rd-60035/home/17626734 with minimal commute and good schools vs. either enduring a 1-hour commute from Westchester and maybe saving some of the extra $100k or living in Brooklyn and spending all of it and then some. Am I missing anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243445) |
Date: May 6th, 2017 8:31 AM Author: smoky trust fund HP is a long commute and that house looks like shit. Bump up your price range and get a place in Evanston or Wilmette or something. Only worry with Evanston is some ghetto areas.
I would take the Chicago job no question unless you need to be around NY for family. So much cheaper. |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 8:47 AM Author: red digit ratio Chicago job is in the suburbs so HP would be fine commute-wise. As for the house, I don't think it's too bad in comparison to the Brooklyn alternatives - http://streeteasy.com/sale/1258827 |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: smoky trust fund JFC.
anyway you can get a seriously nice place for under a mil vs. a $1mm place somewhere like Scarsdale either not existing or being a total teardown worse than the HP place you posted. |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:00 AM Author: pungent institution clown would moving to chi-town put pain on her/your family? what about friends in NY? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243493) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:16 AM Author: red digit ratio That's pretty much a push - social ties in NYC vs. being tired of the NYC experience and ready for something different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243521) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:17 AM Author: Cordovan misunderstood regret orchestra pit Is Oak Park too dark now?
Chicago is 180 compared to MFH |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:36 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew Its not Oak Park that's the problem, its that if your commute is in the Loop you need to cross the west side ghettos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243565) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:08 AM Author: tantric mexican OP probably won't be commuting on foot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243883) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:21 AM Author: fragrant vermilion circlehead idea he suggested Op can u weigh in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407858) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:39 AM Author: Talented ivory marketing idea site Aren't you in London? Can you describe salary and role at your potential gig? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243571) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:35 AM Author: red digit ratio Did that for a while then returned to MFH. Role is a VP one leading all international tax matters (planning, controversy, etc.). Base 300, bonus 100, equity grant 100. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243749) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:57 AM Author: Talented ivory marketing idea site Do you think you've topped out salarywise? I remember you saying you made about this much in London (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243827) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:03 PM Author: red digit ratio Another 5 years and I can be head of tax somewhere largeish and make another 200-300k, but I don't see much upside before then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244366) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: Talented ivory marketing idea site Are these jobs mostly available in NYC and Chicago? Did you look in CA or other states? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244445) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: red digit ratio Every Fortune 500 company has at least a few good tax jobs (head of tax and some combination of roles overseeing US/foreign tax planning, M&A support, audits/litigation etc.). The quality of job will also depend on the support the tax department has from the CFO and CEO and whether the company is growing or not, so at any given point maybe 1/3 of those departments are good places to be.
The challenge for an in-house tax lawyer is to pivot from individual contribution to managing a team and getting designated an executive internally (not unlike making partner in prof services). Once there, it's a very portable skill set, and I could live most anywhere there are large corporate headquarters. The pay doesn't vary nearly as much among companies as the cost of living does. So I could also cool my heels in NYC for a while and wait for a good job in some other location. NYC does have the big advantage that there are a million other companies there so when my kids get older I won't have to uproot them if a new CFO comes in who doesn't value tax. Chicago/Houston/SF have this attribute too, just to a slightly lesser extent. |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:05 PM Author: Saffron Gaming Laptop if you're just going to burb out not sure why you'd choose chicago over houston or something though unless you really hate the heat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244693) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:40 PM Author: red digit ratio Yes I could make $450k+ in Texas and that would be fine. But the oil industry isn't the best place to be and I don't see that changing for a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244862) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:55 AM Author: Federal Alcoholic Boistinker Hie to Chitcago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325960) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:44 AM Author: Lavender International Law Enforcement Agency Doctorate lol NYC makes Chicago look like a TTT shithole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243581) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:20 PM Author: irate principal's office knife in that NYC is a FTT right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33245131) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:45 AM Author: big-titted ratface Cot damn that's a lot for an inhouse gig in Chicago. U the new GC? What's the base and bonus split? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243582) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:47 AM Author: Electric rose partner You could probably afford a bit more than a 400k house on a 500k salary though I admire the frugality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243591) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 9:59 AM Author: hilarious trip party of the first part This seems like an easy choice, go with Chicago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243638) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Cordovan misunderstood regret orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243654) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 10:13 AM Author: stirring garrison NYC is a 180 city while Chicago is about a 155 (violent locals in the city, colder more bitter winters than NYC most years, dullard midwestern whites) but suburbs suck everywhere so you might as well just pick the one that's easiest for your family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243684) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:06 AM Author: smoky trust fund JJC didn't you get NOWAGed out of both cities?
This guy is a family man, doubt he'll be going to gang infested ghetto areas.
NYC dumbs are aggro guidos, much worse than midwestern frat boys. |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:01 AM Author: peach electric furnace pit Chicago if White. Stay out of Chicago if non-White. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33243842) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:25 AM Author: dark insane locus White folks should probably stay out of Chicago as well. Better to just evacuate Chicago, in fact (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325800) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:49 AM Author: glittery pocket flask I know you're trying to troll, but I agree. White people should stay out of downtown Chicago proper and move to the North Shore (if you can afford it). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325924) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 11:03 AM Author: crimson affirmative action this is a no brainer, take the chicago job.
jfc how did you get so marketable? 500k for in house in chicago is insane |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: white hospital coffee pot your after-tax, after-col income is MUCH higher with the chicago job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244382) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Talented ivory marketing idea site Describe how satsisfied your wife is with her life as a sahm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244386) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:18 PM Author: scarlet marvelous temple I don't like the Chicago house you picked, but I'd probably take the Chicago job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244432) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal milk weed whacker highland park/Wilmette are filled with SAHMs. if your wife works too, she will hate it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244666) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:07 PM Author: Saffron Gaming Laptop that's true of any middle upper-upper class mostly white burb in a major metro anywhere, from southern marin to scarsdale to winnetka (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244703) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: smoky trust fund Not sure if this is completely true. There are definitely striver towns with more working moms and traditional towns with more SAHMs.
Also very few families can afford to have a SAHM in nice areas of NYC/suburbs. You need to make $500k vs. maybe $250k in Chicago.
Still not like you'd find a total lack of working mothers in either area. Also why would it even matter? Can working moms not get along with SAHMs? |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:05 PM Author: scarlet marvelous temple *SAHMs clucking at worker bees* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244997) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:10 PM Author: smoky trust fund lol people on UrbanBaby get MAF about this. I think it's the other way around, like a one-sided rivalry. moms who can't afford to stay home need to defend their life narrative by talking trash on SAHMs.
very funny. |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:09 PM Author: smoky trust fund Flame? Those are two of the Jewier towns on the North Shore. Lots of shrews with nannies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244716) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:42 PM Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal milk weed whacker not flame. but you are right, HP/Winnetka are filled with Jews. I worked with someone from Chicago whose wife is a striver from DC. they moved to HP and she couldn't stand being there because of the SAHM culture and she forced him to move to DC for work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33244871) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 2:55 PM Author: smoky trust fund Is this JJC? WTF is SAHM culture?
Can you explain why you'd even be exposed to any SAHM culture as a working woman? Aren't you working most of the time by definition? Do SAHMs do different activities on the weekend or something?
Also Winnetka isn't a Jew town. Winnetka and Kenilworth didn't even allow Jews until the 1960s. HP/Glencoe/Evanston/Wilmette are the big tribe zones. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:52 AM Author: glittery pocket flask The Jew population outside of Highland Park is very very overstated. They tend to be more around the N/S Glenbrook school districts for some reason.
Not even sure why you lumped Evanston into the equation since that's not true North Shore.
North Shore remains predominately WASP. Not a single Jew on my street. Some people say you can judge the "Jewishness" of a town by how many temples are there. What they fail to consider, is that many Jews from other areas come to the North Shore temples for a variety of reasons. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:55 AM Author: glittery pocket flask There is definitely a pervasive "North Shore SAHM" culture that is inescapable. I don't mind it, but I definitely hear people (mostly who don't live in the North Shore) complain about it.
It's basically those 30/40YR SAHMs in their Range Rovers, dyed blonde hair, coffee in the mornings, walk the dogs, take kids to school, go to spa, go to yoga, meet friends for lunch, gossip, gossip and then family time. Harmless and unlike the wretched shrews of New York City, aren't as obsessed with stupid shit like "shopping at Top Shop" or "champagne brunches". It's a lot more wholesome here, with a very big conservative undertone to everything. The typical dress of these SAHM appear to be non-descript tights, Nikes, a fleece zip-up of some kid or vest, some big black sunglasses, a nice (but not too gaudy) handbag and a respectable Rolex. Compare to the NY shrew, obsessing over Burkins and aligator leather. Fuck them. |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:20 PM Author: irate principal's office knife Shitcago >>>>> JY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33245132) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 4:33 AM Author: red digit ratio I ended up taking the NYC job for the following reasons:
-after negotiation the income spread between jobs widened to $150k -I'm concerned about depreciation in the Chicago RE market at the upper end: https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-lost-more-millionaires-than-any-other-u-s-city-in-2015/ -NYC perspective on the pay offered is that it's a pittance for a GC house slave and that I can retain some dignity by working 9-5, whereas Chicago employer views it as Real Money for which a substantial contribution would be expected -access to future jobs paying more is greater in NYC |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 6:40 AM Author: Dashing chartreuse native skinny woman Good luck bro but it was the wrong move. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325512) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 6:55 AM Author: Hairraiser alcoholic parlour kitty cr
lol @ this bitchass |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 6:54 AM Author: adulterous provocative resort #3 raises an interesting point. good luck friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325528) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:57 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Except #3 is completely wrong because Chicago is probably the laziest major city in the world. Part of the reason for this is that the industries in Chicago are highly successful blue chips that have been around for decades, like McDonalds. They are in no rush to expand or pursue aggressive acquisitions. Since the clientele are chill frat boys who care more about being chill frat boys, even IF you are some shitclit lawyler who wants to gun and push paper, guess what? Client went home at 5:00pm and will literally shoot you in the face if you try to reach him after, so it's pencils down.
You know when the Metra trains are the most packed? Between 4:30pm-5:30pm. The Metra station is damn near empty after 6:30pm.
People in MFH bitch about having to work weekends. People in Chicago bitch when they miss Happy Hour on Monday. |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: nubile bespoke office preventive strike cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33339257) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:00 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew You're utterly delusional if you think North Shore RE is ever going to tank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325989) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:04 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Yeah, he's idiotic. As long as the big corporates stay in Chicago, all of those executives are going to stay in the North Shore.
The big-wigs at Groupon live in the North Shore, and once the "yuppies" living downtown settle down and get married, they're all going to want to move as well. |
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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:23 PM Author: sickened indigo whorehouse Prices have been stagnant in Lake Forest and other far out places since 2007.
Sure, your home may not lose value in nominal terms, but stagnant prices for such a big ticket item is not good.
Chicago has stopped attracting immigrants and is losing people due to domestic migration. This is hitting poor areas the hardest, but it's hardly a boomtown for everyone else.
The much vaunted chill corporate culture in Chicago is in part due to the cheap real estate, which wouldn't be so cheap if more people wanted to live there. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 10:48 AM Author: Chest-beating athletic conference Ack, on number 3, no way NYC job requires less hours. I would've gone Chicago all the way and I hate it there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326746) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 7:53 AM Author: glittery pocket flask You're clearly a smart guy and have made good choices in your life to get to where you are at, but you screwed up big time this time around, bro.
Your biggest mistake was looking at Highland Park. At $500,000 annual salary, you could have easily afforded a house in the $800-1Million range in somewhere like Glencoe or Winnetka. For some reason, Highland Park gets a big bump on xoxo but it's clearly the worst of the North Shore suburbs (unless you include Northfield, but even parts of Northfield are great). Highland Park homes are generally smaller and uglier, it's right next to Ft. Sheriden which is really ghetto, the down-town area sucks.
This is the life that you missed out on:
1) Wake up at 7am in your beautiful, large pre-war house to the sound of birds and the clearest blue sky you can imagine. Have coffee and breakfast in your sunroom with your family. 2) Get in your Porsche and drive the 15-20 minutes to work by 8/8:30 (people start early in Chicago). 3) Chicago "corp" is EXTREMELY chill. I mean crazy chill. People are incredibly laid back and gunning is frowned upon. Gunning and working too hard will kill your reputation. 4) At or around 4pm, people start leaving the office. Yes, literally around 4pm. 5) Let's just pretend that you are one of the "gunners". So you work hard, you call it a day at 5:30, somedays at 4:30 because you want to catch your son's softball game. Yes, people do this ALL THE FUCKING TIME. ALL THE TIME. ALL THE TIME. IT IS PERFECTLY NORMAL AND EXPECTED THAT YOU ARE A FAMILY MAN FIRST. GET YOUR FUCKING ASS OUT OF THE OFFICE YOU FUCK, is probably what your boss would tell you, but he's already left the office at 5pm and there's literally NOBODY, not even the fucking janitor, left on your floor after 6pm. You could fire a machine gun on your floor at 7:00pm and there wouldn't be anybody who would hear you. Hell, they'd probably call the cops if you're at the office that late thinking you're a burgler or terrorist. 6) You get home and have dinner with your family at 6:30pm. 7) Either chill in your big house sipping hot choco by your working fireplace, maybe go for a jog in your absolutely beautiful neighborhood with gorgeous houses and scenic roads. Maybe you'll stroll down to one of the several public beaches and listen to the waves of Lake Michigan on a cool summer night and gaze at reflection of the Moon on the water. The air feels, tastes amazing. 8) Or maybe you'll go to one of over a dozen tennis courts within half a mile of you and hit some balls, or go play with your kids in your backyard. 9) On weekends, the North Shore is perfect. No traffic whatsoever, extremely safe, numerous places to have great coffee and brunch, multiple golf courses, easy access to boating if that's your thing, you have the Botanic Gardens, the Skokie Lagoons, just so much to do as a family without any of the BS or hassle. If you want to go see a show or the museum, the city is a 30 minute drive away. 10) Your kids attend by default New Trier, one of the top public school systems in the country. If you don't like the size, send them to the very good private Country Day School which is 5 miles away. 11) If your wife is a SAHM, she'll enjoy hanging out with all the other SAHMs. The downtown areas of Winnetka/Glencoe/Willmette/Kenilworth are filled with small, boutique shops with very little big corporate interference. Everyone knows the employees/owners of these shops and it's all big smiles and hellos. They know about your children, they know where you went to vacation, it's all extremely friendly. 12) Soooo many opportunities for an active lifestyle, as mentioned above. What I didn't mention is that on weekend mornings, there are more joggers and cyclists on the roads than cars. It feels less like living in a "suburb" as opposed to a beautiful nature preserve with gorgeous houses. 13) If you like hunting or other outdoor activities, extremely easy to do. Several of my friends were wealthy farmers or did MANLY THINGS like owned HVAC businesses or the like. These guys are all millionaires, all incredibly chill and relaxed and we would typically just watch sports, drive our cars, go snowmobiling, go boating, golf, BBQ with the families or shoot guns on the weekends. Did I mention, nobody ever checks their work phones on the weekends?
My favorite was when it rained. Lying in my California king-size bed listening and watching the rain in the spring without another sound or distraction in the world.
You fucked up. Get to the North Shore as soon as possible. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:18 AM Author: exciting sienna messiness fatal flaw: your "son" plays "softball" instead of baseball? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325772) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:20 AM Author: glittery pocket flask My son is 5, he plays "softball."
Benefit #1231231 of living in Chicago: you get to avoid neurotic people like the above. |
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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: doobsian wagecucks that guy is done here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36569580) |
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Date: August 11th, 2018 9:37 AM Author: soul-stirring quadroon double fault CR. North Shore of Chicago is one of the best places to raise a family in the country. Similar vibe on Philadelphia Main Line. Not a lot of places left like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36597606) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:13 AM Author: glittery pocket flask What you missed out on:
Glencoe Beach, no traffic and extremely easy to get to/park.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5241273264_368146d6d7_b.jpg
Your kids would have loved it.
https://www.dealchecker.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Glencoe-Beach-Chicago.jpg
The Lake.
http://jwcdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/beach3.jpg
Whether you boat or not, just a nice place to go to relax. Did I mention numerous playgrounds/tennis courts within walking distance?
Architecturally significant houses.
Beautiful houses everywhere. No two houses look the same on any street. It makes for amazingly pleasant walks with your dog.
Beautiful downtown areas.
https://fuelfed.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/fuelfed-coffee-classics-people.jpg
Lots of events happening, great community and places to shop, eat, drink.
I'm not even getting into the beauty of Lake Shore Drive or the amazing architecture of Chicago.
Or the historical significance of the city.
Or the amazing sports culture, if you're into that.
Or the amazing economy (very healthy economy based on Blue Chips like McDonalds, Boeing, and tech companies like Groupon, plus traditional industries like agriculture logistics).
Yeah, it gets cold in the winter, and if you for some idiotic reason decide to go to South Chicago or West Chicago, you'll encounter some dangerous neighborhoods, and yeah, it's flat as a preteen and there are no mountains for skiing, but otherwise it really is an amazing place to live. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:58 AM Author: amber french chef piazza The "beauty of lake shore drive?" How about mention Sheridan Rd which runs from Chicago to Glencoe and actually has beautiful winding roads? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325980) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:00 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Well Sheridan Rd actually runs WELL past north of Glencoe.
The only reason I left out Sheridan Rd (I live about 1,000 ft from it) is because of the ridiculous speed limit (25mph). And if you live here, you know about the traffic police, they'll pull you over for going 5 over. Since I much prefer WALKING, or biking in my neighborhood (you see the same types of houses anyway), there's not much merit to me in driving down Sheridan. Also, the roads get very rugged (potholes) when you hit Evanston. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:04 AM Author: amber french chef piazza Shut your fucking mouth. You thought I didn't know where Sheridan Rd ends? I was saying it runs through Glencoe. Don't argue semantics with me. And what the fuck do cops have to do with beautiful winding roads in Glencoe? What the fuck is your defect? You sound like one of those guys who has an excuse for everything and can never take responsibility for anything. That's what you sound like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326019) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:10 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Lol having a bad day?
I just gave you a bunch of reasons why I avoid Sheridan Rd. If I need to head south, I'll take Greenbay. 25mph REALLY sucks, and it REALLY sucks when a cop pulls you over for going 30mph. The houses along Sheridan are gorgeous (what you can see of them anyway, since the really nice ones are gated and covered by trees). It's also criminally dangerous to try cycling down Sheridan Rd (hence few people do this) because even though there is a bike path, it is always covered in debris or potholes) and the road itself is too narrow for cars to safely pass cyclists.
You sound like someone who doesn't live here...the "wonders" of Sheridan Rd doesn't really appeal to anyone who actually lives nearby and sees it everyday. But maybe I'm biased because I drive a Porsche and feel stupid driving around at 25mph.
Also, Sheridan only really "winds" for a very short stretch, maybe 1 mile between Glencoe and Highland Park and half a mile stretch on the border of Glencoe and Winnetka. The rest of it is straight and boring, especially once you get down to Willmette. Then it's just a series of stop lights, left and right turns, stop lights, straight, ugly houses, BAM you're in the ghetto of Evanston.
If you want "real beautiful roads", well there are a whole bunch North of the North Shore, windy roads in the forest that are MILES long with little to no traffic in either direction. Also, many of the streets OFF of Sheridan are much more beautiful, I can think of a couple in Winnetka and Lake Forest, that absolutely blow your mind.
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:16 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew (Waukegan homeowner) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326116) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:17 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Nah I'm in the 60022. I know about the "windy roads" because I'm a member of the Chicago chapter Porsche club and also Fuelfed, so we go on weekend drives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326126) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:19 AM Author: exciting sienna messiness are there any asshole boomer doctor know it alls you have to deal with in your club? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326137) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:22 AM Author: glittery pocket flask There's a lot of asshole boomers in any car clubs bro. You just avoid them except when you want a ride in their car :)
I put up with them only for the benefits and useful information. This one boomer asshole owns a Porsche 918 and a 911R and I managed to cop a ride in both. Completely worth sucking his ass for a few months. |
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Date: May 20th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: nubile bespoke office preventive strike eating shit for months to cop a RIDE in a KOOL KAR??? lol @ house millennials (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33353121) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:20 AM Author: amber french chef piazza You know I'm watching what you do, and it's sad. After your first post you went back and edited it 5 minutes later to add a bunch of stuff. Then you did it again with this post. I always said you know someone is unsure, not confident, or scared when they behave that way. You sound like a striver, which would explain how you write up these stupid posts.
You think I'm having a bad day, but here you are trying your hardest to argue some random point, and then going back repeatedly to edit. And you don't even know why your doing it or why. No one cares about a fucking lake shore drive or a fucking sheridan road. Act like a man. How about that? And btw you wanna talk about someone who doesn't live there, I grew up in the City, and not a nice part. You can either keep talking at this point or shut your mouth like I originally told you to do. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:22 AM Author: glittery pocket flask I'm typing on my iphone bro. Train of thought, on the train.
I'm not digging at you, I'm just saying as someone who grew up here, what "I" as a resident of the "North Shore" view as the benefits of the "North Shore lifestyle." Maybe you can relate to that, maybe you can't, but you don't need to go around knocking other people's perspective just because they don't align with your views. I happen to think Sheridan Rd sucks, but the view of the Lake never ceases to blow my mind, no matter how often I see it. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:28 AM Author: amber french chef piazza You really don't get it, even after I tried to help your bitchass understand what just happened. And here comes the "bro" shit and the nice guy talk. Just stop. It's over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326199) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:29 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Yeah you have me confused. Either I'm stupid or you're just bad at communicating. Either or, as you were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326210) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:33 AM Author: amber french chef piazza Nah not as you were. Shut the fuck up and get out my motherfucking face you striver ass kisser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326240) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:35 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Lol at this guy. You replied to my OP and now you're telling me to get out of your face.
And yeah, my dad was a striver, I'm a striver, why do you care. |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:31 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew (guy from Zion arguing with guy from Waukegan about the North Shore life) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326216) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:32 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Are there any poasters who actually (currently) live in the North Shore? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326231) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:34 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew I used to live in Evanston. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326245) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:36 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Why does Evanston have 3 Metra stops? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326257) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:39 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew It has a higher population and is denser than the more northern towns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326280) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:55 AM Author: glittery pocket flask But don't a lot of Evanston residents take the CTA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326382) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 10:00 AM Author: Passionate Address Jew Metra is waaayy faster. The CTA takes forever unless you are taking the "Purple Express", but it only runs during rush hour. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326413) |
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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:05 PM Author: sickened indigo whorehouse It used to be three towns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#35421710) |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: Self-centered aggressive hissy fit This makes me want to move to Chicago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33336421) |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:25 PM Author: lascivious orange legal warrant lodge i agree with everything except the part about groupon being a tech company. that place is a silly struggling coupon company. most of the interesting jobs in tech in chicago are in finance and trading (jump, citadel, drw, etc.) the area has great STEM academic institutions but for industry, things are more limited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337916) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:24 AM Author: scarlet marvelous temple Korean Google link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407874) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 8:26 AM Author: dark insane locus wow, huge mistake by OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33325808) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:29 AM Author: low-t volcanic crater bawdyhouse Chicago, but that house sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326204) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:31 AM Author: big-titted ratface I normally hate on Chicago, but went to the Cubs-Reds game last night, and cot damn this city is nice. You fucked up OP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33326217) |
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Date: May 17th, 2017 9:47 AM Author: glittery pocket flask Dear OP:
You have the option of providing two experiences for your children:
OPTION 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yiBnPbixg
OPTION 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0EkHManWc
B-b-b-u-t I can send them to Stuyvesent/Bronx Science!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRUGLL4kCA
NYC Ping Pong Champions 2 years running!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_FgMyLYvCM
After you are done kicking yourself in the face, ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE?? |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:07 PM Author: Swashbuckling confused really tough guy dopamine What's going salary rate in Chicago for c/o 2009-2011 going in-house from biglaw corporate?
I've done some interviewing and got what seemed to me to be some absurdly low offers, but if this guy got offered 500k then maybe I'm just interviewing at the wrong places. |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:08 PM Author: exciting sienna messiness Tax bros have an actual skillset, not like Corp/M&A drones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337809) |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 4:12 PM Author: bateful liquid oxygen This. I know a dood who is VP of Tax and Treasury at a Fortune 100 in MFH and he said if his comp all-in ever got below $500k he'd killself. He has a BA from an overpriced mediocre private university and apparently was clearing $300k as a 27yo management consultant waaaaay back in the day. No MBA or advanced degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33337834) |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 5:03 PM Author: red digit ratio The consensus above seems to be that I'm retarded, so I'll offer some more detail on the decision:
After I established myself in each role, the Chicago job would likely average ~5 more hours per week than the NYC one. NYC in general has a far inferior work culture to Chicago, but there are pockets of smart but lazy people in NYC who manage to build alternatives. This difference is in part because the specific Chicago employer is much more acquisitive, with M&A leading to time pressure and longer hours.
I agree that the North Shore suburbs are nice, but NYC has great suburbs too and much of the above conflates the regional choice with an urban vs suburban one. For example, let's say I live in Glen Ridge ( http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/realestate/glen-ridge-nj-neighborly-and-close-to-midtown.html ). My commute would be longer, but I can shift some work to the train and if I spend an extra 30 minutes each way commuting NYC has broken even vs Chicago in terms of total work time.
Cost of living in the suburbs doesn't seem that different. Let's say I up my budget to around $800k and live somewhere like https://www.redfin.com/IL/Glencoe/770-Vernon-Ave-60022/home/13791740. 2200 square feet, $18k in taxes, beautiful old architecture, walkscore of 73. Or I can live in https://www.redfin.com/NJ/Glen-Ridge/3-Appleton-Pl-07028/home/36165106. $30k more expensive, 2200 square feet, $22k in taxes, beautiful old architecture, walkscore of 67.
But that ignores different real estate price trajectories: according to Zillow, Glencoe prices dropped 1.3% in value last year, and Glen Ridge prices increased by 5.3%. So that's a 6% spread in outcomes. On $800k of principal, if that were to continue it would be $48k of additional annual income living in NJ, and would be tax-free so equivalent to $80k of pre-tax income. A 6% spread may not continue, but even half that would be pretty meaningful.
So at the end of the day I'll be saving $6k more per month in the NYC burbs from the extra $150k comp (extra $75k after taxes), making a better real estate investment, and I'll have access to the larger NYC employment market for future opportunities. Yes being next to the beach would be nice in those few warm months, but for now I'll survive. |
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Date: May 18th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: Chest-beating athletic conference This makes it sound much better. I was under the impression that you'd live in the city and pay NYC taxes and NYC prices for schools and real estate. jersey is not a fun commute but I have no idea how it compares to shitcago. I was skeptical about the hours difference in the jobs but it sounds like you know the companies themselves well enough to know what the hours are really like. Best of luck and congrats. You're in the top 99.9% of in house land. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33338765) |
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Date: May 20th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: white hospital coffee pot yes but now you have a ridiculous commute. you need to factor that as a very real cost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33353140) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 8:13 AM Author: red digit ratio While the above is logically sound, ultimately I would rather just live in an urban environment. So I am going to do something like http://streeteasy.com/rental/2077881 or http://streeteasy.com/rental/2056738 and re-evaluate at middle school. |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 9:52 AM Author: scarlet marvelous temple Adding an extra hour per day to commuting would crush me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407758) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 10:16 AM Author: razzmatazz public bath police squad LOL at you limiting yourself to the biggest cities in America in which youd have to live like a poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33407842) |
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Date: July 27th, 2017 10:10 PM Author: cerebral space I laughed my ass off at the "sup brady" fantasy itt. (Even if every word were the literal truth, that would make it no less a fantasy.) JJC, this is how it's done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33870648) |
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Date: July 27th, 2017 10:32 PM Author: Topaz internet-worthy mad-dog skullcap LJL at you living in a shitty house like that at 400k. Just be a mailable in flyover if you'd live like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#33870805) |
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Date: February 16th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: overrated onyx pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#35421560) |
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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:12 PM Author: sickened indigo whorehouse OP missed out on riding the train with old farts who wear brimmed hats and brown plaid pants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#35421757) |
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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:13 PM Author: Kink-friendly ceo sweet tailpipe LOL OP got DESTROYED if he moved to NYC for another 100k, better double that salary brej. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#35421776) |
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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house OP, do you have a throwaway? we have very similar career paths and I hope to be in your position sooner than later. would like to ask you some questions about the steps you took along the way. tyia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36569686) |
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Date: August 7th, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Chest-beating athletic conference OP, didn’t you end up moving to Brooklyn and not jersey? Those city taxes are a killer. Hope all is well and get your kids out of the city and move to Westchester before they get brainwashed at st ann’s.
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Date: August 7th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Thriller elastic band theater stage Think he moved to Texas lol. I remember him posting that he took his kids to brunch in Brooklyn and two lesbians next to him were talking about the orgy they had last night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36569970) |
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Date: August 11th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: red digit ratio Yes, will never forget that table of three dumpy thirtysomething lesbians and a boy of around 9 poking at his $16 tofu scramble and looking completely miserable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36597431) |
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Date: August 11th, 2018 8:22 AM Author: red digit ratio This was a terrible decision, and I probably should have paid more attention at the time to the niggling whispers in the back of my mind that these comments were sodomizing me. The saving grace is that my NYC pay bump translated into even more money in Texas. I will never leave Texas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36597401) |
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Date: August 11th, 2018 8:25 AM Author: razzmatazz public bath police squad What was a terrible decision? Moving to Texas? Or not moving to Chicago? Need you to work on clarity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36597405) |
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Date: August 11th, 2018 8:39 AM Author: red digit ratio The poor decision was taking a job in NYC with the intent of raising kids there. Chicago > NYC and Texas > Chicago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36597427) |
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Date: August 11th, 2018 8:43 AM Author: cobalt concupiscible water buffalo Your life sounds awful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3606262&forum_id=2#36597435) |