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Had to stop wife from indoctrinating my 7 yo daughter w/ uber-shitlib thoughts

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Don't have that shit on the car with a 7 yo holy fuck
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 12:58 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

This morning. We were in the car and listening to the radio about Manchester and my wife started telling her that Islam as just as peaceful as Christianity....had to tell her to stop indoctrinating our daughter w/ shitlib bs that isn't true.

Luckily my wife is pretty great and agreed that she misspoke and acknowledged that Islam was currently a considerably more violent religion than Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376099)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

Don't have that shit on the car with a 7 yo holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376108)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

no. We don't shield our 7 yr old from that stuff. She is smarter than 90% of adults already. We treat her that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376113)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

please stop

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Sooty Set



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: Self-centered institution



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

nah

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Self-centered institution

I bet she's in the gifted program too

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

please don't conflate her good brain that is capable of reading nancy drew with the maturity to handle death and destruction. you wouldn't be cool with her dating 14 yos would you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376164)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:19 PM
Author: exhilarant house

180 analogy

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: Twisted stain

Should have guessed that :D would make the best parent out of all the poasters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377280)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:24 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

:p

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

this is exactly the kind of goofball shit my brother does.

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:39 PM
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:04 PM
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:05 PM
Author: slimy alpha public bath

("man" with mental faculties of 6yo)

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:28 PM
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:17 PM
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Date: May 24th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: milky field

XOers are ridiculous with this. He is probably right and most people are morons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33385426)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:04 PM
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: Self-centered institution

(guy with a Woke 7-Year Old)

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:11 PM
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Date: May 24th, 2017 3:28 AM
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: shaky stead trump supporter

It's a tough balance to strike.

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: Elite Pontificating Base Persian

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: Walnut soul-stirring factory reset button

tell your daughter about that time Mohammad presided over the beheading of 800 Jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376114)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: titillating native selfie

but I think he is trying to discourage his daughter from being attracted to Islam

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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:07 PM
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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:21 PM
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Date: May 24th, 2017 9:53 AM
Author: heady corner

lol the hardest I ever laughed at xo was somebody talking about how he hated his mother in law. He illustrated by saying "she made my wife have an eating disorder."

somebody replied "but she did some bad things to you too, right?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383496)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:24 PM
Author: Cerebral chestnut indirect expression casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378009)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:17 PM
Author: black national security agency market

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378437)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:18 PM
Author: Bateful milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378447)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 7:54 PM
Author: plum theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379802)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: irradiated locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33382705)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: heady corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383483)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: motley spruce stag film double fault

Humanity is absurd.,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376146)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Spend more time with your daughter when your wife isn't around. Maybe some of your beliefs will rub off on her more. If this is really a concern of yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376148)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

I spend lots of time with her. We hadn't gotten around to Islam just yet, although she does already know that Religion is generally for idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376157)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Self-centered institution

Sounds like you and your wife are turning her into a moron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376171)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:42 PM
Author: Free-loading kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376514)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:05 PM
Author: Mahogany step-uncle's house ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377303)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: heady corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383500)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Green judgmental home corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383542)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

Tone that on that stuff too for now. She's not mature enough socially to keep her mouth shut and could alienate herself from classmates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376175)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Depends on the classmates and their parents' views and location. If the OP's in a NYC suburb, she'll be fine. If the OP's in a Dallas suburb, your point stands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376188)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

Atheism isn't common even in ultra elite circles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376228)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:15 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Most Jews I know are Atheists who keep up with the Jew thing for cultural identity reasons.

Though I agree that the kid should be taught against making potentially offensive statements to her peers which could hurt others' feelings. And "Religious people are dumbasses" qualifies as something that could socially backfire. I don't think the OP is teaching his daughter that this sort of rudeness is acceptable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376274)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

The fear is that she will say "lol religion is silly fake news!" not actual malice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376292)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Yeah I wouldn't be concerned with my child blurting that out in class. Chances are the majority of my kid's peers will think the same way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376336)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:07 PM
Author: slimy alpha public bath

>him: in ultra elite circles

>you: most jews i know

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378308)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: Big locus chad

The jewish mind unmoored from God is fertile ground for deep and crippling self loathing and overall mental illness. Hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379328)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 8:18 PM
Author: Bull Headed Meetinghouse Hunting Ground

not a "god"mo but this seems irrefutable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33380003)



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Date: May 25th, 2017 10:45 AM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Eh, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the mental illness of most organized religions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33391895)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:10 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital

take her to church, let her see what its like and let her decide if she likes it or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376212)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:13 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Do you think a 7-year old is old enough to make decisions with respect to her personal theological philosophy?

I'd rather raise the kid generally agnostic (but generally aware of world religions as a factual matter) until they are teenagers and then expose them gradually to various religions to see if any of the belief systems resonate with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376250)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:15 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

That's a logical fallacy akin to saying you will wait until they are teens to expose them to asbestos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376269)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:15 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital

if they are a teenager its too late, theyll probably never get into religion. i think you need to expose kids to it young. if they dont like it fine, but i feel like youre making the choice for them if you raise them agnostic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376273)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:16 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

religion causes stress and trauma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376280)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:19 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital

eh, didnt really for me, though ultimately i decided it wasnt my thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376314)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: Self-centered institution

lol do you really believe this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377135)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 9:55 AM
Author: heady corner

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383509)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:16 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

I want them to be old enough to understand what religion is. Of course, when the kid is young, I will "expose" them to religion in the sense that I won't shield their eyes if we walk past a house of worship, and if we're traveling in Europe or Asia with the children I won't steer clear of visiting temples and cathedrals from a historical perspective, and if they learn about various world religions in school - that's fine as well.

If they are curious about what goes on in a religious service, I'm happy to take them to one.

If you need to be young to "get into religion", what does that say about religion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376286)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital

religion is community, primarily. always has been. the philosophical thoughts are useful, but they wont even get to that stage if they dont see it as normal to begin with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376305)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

There are plenty of other communities, especially if you raise your kid in a larger city and you and your spouse are friend-havers.

I'm not going to raise my kids to be ignorant of religion or to think it's weird for people to go to church or synagogue regularly. I just want them to be mature enough to understand the philosophical issues behind any religion before they decide to subscribe to it, and I don't think that taking a kid to church when they're 7 years old "for the community" is giving them a fair chance to be rational about adopting genuine religious beliefs.

But I learned about Christian mythology primarily via Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals and 70s horror flicks, so what do I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376331)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital

hey man do what you want. i just think there's a close to zero chance theyll give the religion thing a fair shake if they arent exposed to it at all as a young kid. perfectly fine if youre ok with that. very few people end up adopting an unfamiliar religion because theyve thought through the philosophical angle and come to a reasoned decision, though many people already involved in religion struggle with the philosophical issues in a healthy and constructive way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376357)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

I'm not saying that I'm not going to expose my kids to religion AT ALL. I'm just saying that I won't take great pains to make sure the kid attends services or learns about the Bible or Torah or whatever with a view to instilling religious beliefs.

My kids are still going to know who Jesus was and the general outlines of Genesis and the New Testament and all the important high notes of Judeo-Christian moral philosophy. I don't need them to quote Corinthians or memorize the Lord's Prayer or whatever, though. And I definitely won't have them do the whole "first communion" thing at the tender age of 8 when they have no idea what's going on.

I'm all down for teaching kids about various world religions as a factual, historical, and cultural matter. And if my kid says to me "I'd like to learn more about X religion", I'll indulge that curiosity as it makes sense to do so. But the kid has to come to me first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376409)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship preventive strike

They need to do vacation bible school and volunteer work and mission trips you stupid woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379301)



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Date: May 25th, 2017 10:50 AM
Author: beady-eyed brunch

Bahaha no.

If one of my kids' friends comes from a more religious family and they get exposed to Shabbat dinners or church services through friends, that's perfectly fine. If my kid says "I want to go to church/temple because my friends go to church/temple and it seems like fun," I'll indulge this interest as well.

Most of my church-going friends go to Episcopalian churches that are LGBT welcoming and host nondenominational meditation or yoga classes on Thursday nights and such.

If they WANTED to do mission trips etc as they got older, I'd support it in the spirit of adventure and exploration.

But I would not steer them toward or against any religious belief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33391948)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: Exciting orchestra pit psychic

fyi you're engaging with Grace Kelly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377218)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 8:02 PM
Author: multi-colored school cafeteria headpube

No, the exact opposite is true. The fact you have to start the brainwashing early should help you realize what a fraud religion is. The fact that you can't see this is because you're brainwashed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379862)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Adventurous Shrine Dysfunction

lol at kid-havers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376178)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: Domesticated Stage

u know ur gonna lose in the end right can't stop the tsunami wave of shitlibbery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376230)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:12 PM
Author: confused slippery university patrolman

Feel like your wife had the better message to a kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376232)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:12 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

Sweet little lies are great messages but they are still lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376243)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: confused slippery university patrolman

it's not necessarily a lie. In the abstract I doubt the religion is more violent. Practitioners in this time period are more violent. Reason being up for debate.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376297)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church

Islam has always been insanely violent. Are you retarded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376303)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Overrated Boyish Church Building

Historically, the most violent parts of the world have been China & Europe. This includes pre-industrial times:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376329)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: medicated bawdyhouse sandwich

Whites and AZNs generally live peaceful lives - they just don't fuck around during wartime, thus high death tolls

Muds exist in a constant state of low-level warfare, so the overall death tolls are much lower, but their lives are pure hell because it's just non-stop drama day in and day out

Of course, you're a disingenuous lib, so you'll continue to pretend that it's a total coincidence that everyone is desperate to live around ULTRAVIOLENT Whites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377703)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: confused slippery university patrolman

Christianity has always been insanely violent. Are you retarded?

Any religion can be twisted land used to justify heinous acts. Why it may happen more during certain periods of time etc is not something a 7 year old can comprehend. Sending a kid out their with just...Islam is more violent than Cheistianity is setting her up for failure socially

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376335)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:08 PM
Author: slimy alpha public bath

during the crusades islam was way more brohammed than christianity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378324)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: vivacious deer antler

LOL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377081)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

I did clarify that Islam is currently much more violent, but is hasn't always been that way (eg: the Crusades)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377392)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: vivacious deer antler

hmm gee wow I wonder what could have possibly triggered the crusades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377498)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: Cerebral chestnut indirect expression casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378045)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:09 PM
Author: slimy alpha public bath

the pope and byzantine emperor wanting to PWN muzzies to capture more territory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378328)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:44 PM
Author: Sadistic godawful location goal in life

muh peaceful conquering muslim hordes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378140)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 6:55 PM
Author: Arousing angry hissy fit

You're a retarded shitlib if you honestly believe this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379339)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 8:14 PM
Author: vivacious deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379980)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:15 PM
Author: Overrated Boyish Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376270)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:16 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376279)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:16 PM
Author: Ultramarine legend hell

op sounds like an incompetent husband and parent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376278)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Adulterous Dog Poop Philosopher-king

ljl well we were listening to NPR in the car and decided to talk to our 7 yo about Islam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376301)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:43 PM
Author: Free-loading kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376527)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:16 PM
Author: Overrated Boyish Church Building

bad father

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376287)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:19 PM
Author: hairless khaki sneaky criminal personal credit line

yeah man you're awesome for redpilling your 7yo dotter lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376311)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: trip yellow community account hospital

*op's 8 year old daughter gravitating toward something called "BBC"*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376328)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: Overrated Boyish Church Building

Agreed, what type of fuckwit talks politics to 7 year old children?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376340)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:10 PM
Author: slimy alpha public bath

My family believes in doing this as a cultural tradition. They had me reading the paper and talking about what I read when I was about that age. My grandfather even stopped a convo one time w/me and my wife to tell her "this political conversation we're having right now, you need to make sure to get your kids talking like this asap"

are you azn or something? because IME white people involve their kids in this stuff while azns are like "shut up and do math, gook"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378350)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 3:38 AM
Author: Laughsome stage bbw

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33382718)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: confused slippery university patrolman

This is an insane thread. Can you imagine hearing this Irl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376347)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: ungodly coffee pot

Shitlibs grow up to be shitlibs because their parents didnt. Sheltering our children is what has brought us to where we are today. Shut the FUCK up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377136)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: aphrodisiac blood rage

she's not asking about islam, you fucking dolt. she's asking, "am i safe? can mommy and daddy protect me? is something like this going to happen to me?" questions you don't want to contemplate because you know the answer is no, you can't protect her from islamic terrorism. youre just another cuck sending your young to slaughter. beta. impotent. pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376465)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: Appetizing lavender church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376475)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 1:42 PM
Author: Ultramarine legend hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33376519)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: Dark Trailer Park

Brutal finishing move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377059)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Wonderful citrine electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377084)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: Mind-boggling jet plaza



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: Exciting orchestra pit psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377207)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

I don't talk politics around my son because I don't want to confuse him now about why we have such a shitmongrel in the white house.

When kids ask about explosions the main thing is that you are supposed to comfort them, tell them it wont happen to them and that you'll keep them safe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377435)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 8:09 PM
Author: multi-colored school cafeteria headpube

Donald Trump was the first human celebrity whose name my daughter knew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379924)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: brindle scourge upon the earth

180 twist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377471)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: vivacious deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377486)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: painfully honest rigpig

lmao thread did not go the way OP expected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377115)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

sure it did. XO'rs are kneejerk contrarians. If I had said that I wasn't teaching my kids about religion or letting them listen to NPR or just agreed with my wife's statement I would have gotten tons of shit too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377425)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Self-centered institution

Then why make this thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377448)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

because it happened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377482)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: Self-centered institution

Is this your livejournal now? I don't understand the motivation to create a thread where you "already knew" you'd be massacred

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377499)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: spectacular abode tattoo

yes, this is basically my live journal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377529)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: Bateful milk

?

Backlash is half the fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378463)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: Ultramarine legend hell

lol, no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377603)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

Many many many people in the world are shitty or half-assed parents. Or just insensitive to the kid, and his needs. Dismissive of feelings and concerns, not good listener. Just too lazy to make an effort. This is the norm. Actually being sensitive and nuanced and listening to your kid and giving them all the stuff they need to venture out on their own is the exception, not the rule. Laziness abounds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377454)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: brindle scourge upon the earth

another utterly useless and pathetic comment from spaceporn the board lib sage.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377563)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: Ultramarine legend hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377580)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: painfully honest rigpig

it boggles the mind but do you think it's possible he thinks he's a good father?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377606)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

Lazy parents also don't say shit to their kid when kid is in the car and they are driving him somewhere.

You gotta ask about shit outside your window, ask him why the construction workers are doing that thing, ask him who he sits next to at circle time, tell him your favorite memory from last vacation, tell him you love him no matter what and there's nothing he could do to stop your love--all that stuff. Instead most fucking parents don't even bother to engage with their kid while driving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377749)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: painfully honest rigpig

again, i get the weird sense that you have constructed a fantasy world in which you are an above-average father. bizarre as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377971)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:10 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

my kid has never not once seen me smoke out of my bubbler

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378348)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: fragrant therapy

Lol that's like Tony Soprano telling himself he's a good dad because his babydood didn't hear him tell someone he would turn their house into a fireworks show. Kids don't have any fucking clue about that shit, it's literally the opposite of what matters (ie stuff on the surface they won't comprehend). It's the more general fact that you're at least mildly retarded which will mess them up forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33382716)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: vivacious deer antler

(dude who lays on the couch high while his retarded kid eats glue in front of him, then blames his kid's retardation on the one black kid at his school)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377666)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

Ugh stop talking about the one poor black kid in his class. black kids slow the whole class down. Its pretty clear that this is the case. Why you making a big deal out of that. Leave that poor black kid alone!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377689)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:34 PM
Author: Cerebral chestnut indirect expression casino

Isn't your son black?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378088)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:11 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

he knows what he is mang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378367)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: Cerebral chestnut indirect expression casino

I'm not being a dick. Asking for clarification. I read in another thread, someone said you adopted an African baby. Not sure if true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378432)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 5:19 PM
Author: hairraiser ape gaming laptop

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378457)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 8:10 PM
Author: multi-colored school cafeteria headpube

You're a horseshit parent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379940)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:13 PM
Author: fluffy athletic conference fortuitous meteor

OP's dotter reading this thread, nervously asking OP if she'll get blown out too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377931)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: Ultramarine legend hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378042)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:22 PM
Author: cerise main people wagecucks

ljl at your wife ever saying she misspoke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33377985)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:26 PM
Author: Aqua federal garrison macaca

tell your wife "if mohammed were alive now he would want to marry and fuck our daughter"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378019)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: Ultramarine legend hell

jarring op / moniker disconnect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378046)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: ungodly coffee pot

Kids should be woke by age 5. You can tell your kids you will do your best to keep them safe but you cant promise that you will keep them safe always, because obviously you wont. It's just another shitlib lie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378158)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 4:48 PM
Author: Cerebral chestnut indirect expression casino

Tell us moar about parenting.

;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33378168)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 6:57 PM
Author: Big locus chad

I would be remiss if I didn't say what needed to be said.

Traditional.

Latin.

Mass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379347)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 7:04 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship preventive strike

Not talking shit but I don't understand why people would prefer choreographed or ritualistic services over the more informal services in protestant churches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379407)



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Date: May 23rd, 2017 8:05 PM
Author: out-of-control hall

lol you serious bro?

I don't go full blown papist, but traditional and ceremonial liturgy in my denomination puts you in the "I'm at church" mindset. It makes it feel very distinct from everyday life. Special, if you will. Plus, things like the confession of faith (Nicene creed) become a sort of mantra

modernized "informal" churches literally just feel like a shitty rock concert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33379889)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 9:47 AM
Author: confused slippery university patrolman

(Guy who has never been to a chill black church)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383459)



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Date: May 25th, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: infuriating cruise ship preventive strike

I'm talking about baptist churches mostly. The focus is on worship but also fellowship. Catholics just do these choreographed moves it's weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33391496)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 3:42 AM
Author: Laughsome stage bbw

*charismatic worship music starts*

*13 year old girls raising their hands to "jesus is my lover", hips gently gyrating with 3 chord song*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33382722)



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Date: May 24th, 2017 9:53 AM
Author: Sick Center Idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33383495)



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Date: May 25th, 2017 10:36 AM
Author: Metal razzle lodge sweet tailpipe

Your daughter is going to end up a shitlib no matter what you do. Focus instead on saving your son or engendering one if you don't have a son yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3624047&forum_id=2#33391805)